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[Topher]

I trust you that that's what the parts he picked out cost. I don't trust that that's equivalent or could not be done cheaper, nawmean?

Grok (who has very recently blatantly and obviously lied to me so get your salt grains ready), says it could make an equivalent PC for $720:
Sample PCPartPicker Build (~$720 total, 512GB; expandable/upgradable)

Part	Model/Example	Price (USD)
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 7600 (6C/12T, 5.1GHz boost)	$190
GPU	AMD Radeon RX 7600 8GB	$260
RAM	16GB (2x8GB) DDR5-6000	$70
Storage	512GB NVMe SSD (e.g., WD SN580)	$40
Motherboard	Mini-ITX AM5 (e.g., MSI B650I)	$180
PSU	450–550W SFX 80+ Gold	$70
Case	Mini-ITX (e.g., Fractal Ridge, ~6" cube-like)	$90
Cooler	Stock/stock air (or $30 add-on)	$20
Total	~$720 (pre-tax/shipping; sales drop to ~$650)

Price looks about right for off the shelf. Of course, the CPU is the mobile version of that and it and the gpu will be integrated into the motherboard so that part alone will be cheaper than the cpu/gpu/mb combo there. But if Valve says the price will be competitive with what you could build yourself then it will be overpriced, imo. Gotta stick to my guns and say $500 or bust on this one.

 

[Grildon Tundy]

Team $600 here.

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

Btw, I'm on team $600 … if it's more than that, it's all Topher fault.

It'll be 700 of you want the 2TH version which is basically required if it's going to be your main thing as games takes up a lot of space now. Unless you're dead set on just playing a few games on it.

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

Another thing I'm wondering is how well would the cooling be cause it's a really small pc so unless they got some special advance cooling than trying to play for a few hours might not be good especially on a warm day. Have heard horror stories about small form pcs over a decade ago.

Also fan noise. If they somehow got some good optimization and gear magic within that box to make the heat and noise decent than that would be a huge plus.

 

[Kumomeme]

You can build a pc that small yourself?

yes with right part ofcourse.

some of example :





there is even smaller case than this

 

[TheSHEEEP]

All the experts in here thinking they know better than Valve how much their hardware should cost

Damn, if only Valve had known they could've just asked GAF.

 

[Little Mac]

It'll be 700 of you want the 2TH version which is basically required if it's going to be your main thing as games takes up a lot of space now. Unless you're dead set on just playing a few games on it.

I already have a WD 2TB SN850x NVMe drive that I'll be removing from my PS5 Pro so the 512GB Steam Machine option will suit me fine.

 

[BlueManifest]

yes with right part ofcourse.

some of example :





there is even smaller case than this

That would be a good option for people that want to build a pc themselves, I don't see a price though

The performance of that one isn't huge difference from Steam machine

It's showing cyberpunk at 1080p ultra and 60 fps while Steam machine did 1080p high at 60 or 1440p with upscale, so I would take the Steam machine still if it's a couple hundred less than that and don't have to bother building it myself

 

[Mozza]

Is not a retarded take… anything above $599 for a Low-Mid spec PC is going to be DOA.

The system has an uphill battle in the first place.......... Never mind the extra issues it will have if it's too expensive.

 

[BlueManifest]

The system has an uphill battle in the first place.......... Never mind the extra issues it will have if it's too expensive.

It doesn't really matter how successful this is

Steam already has 150 million users, they don't need this machine, Steam did fine even if this never existed

So if they sell this machine for a profit it doesn't matter if only sell 10,000 or 5 million as long as they sell for profit they will make some money from it either way and it will be there for people that want it or for people that don't even have a gaming pc, and it will be a first step to getting steam OS to all desktops

 

[Mozza]

It doesn't really matter how successful this is

Steam already has 150 million users, they don't need this machine, Steam did fine even if this never existed

So if they sell this machine for a profit it doesn't matter if only sell 10,000 or 5 million as long as they sell for profit they will make some money from it either way and it will be there for people that want it or for people that don't even have a gaming pc, and it will be a first step to getting steam OS to all desktops

Which is why I said the system, and never mentioned the Steam service. But thanks for pointing the obvious out.

 

[Fbh]

All the experts in here thinking they know better than Valve how much their hardware should cost

Damn, if only Valve had known they could've just asked GAF.

Eh, companies aren't infallible and talking about this stuff is fun.
The experts at Valve also believed in the original Steam machines.
The experts at Nintendo thought the WiiU was a good idea
The experts at Sony were so blown away by Concord that they bought the developer before the game was even out.
The experts at Microsoft though pricing the Xbox 1 higher than the Ps4 and always bundling it with Kinect was a good idea.

 

[Parazels]

They can't subsidize a Steam Machine like a typical console manufacturer, because a significant portion of their userbase already owns games on the platform. How many additional sales are going to be generated by Steam Machines? I see it, and likely Valve sees it as another place to play your existing Steam Library.

I'm not sure they will sell console numbers, I don't see a significant amount of additional game sales, and Valve also has to take into account uncertainties around inflation of PC components (this AI craze is only causing more issues), and they need to plan a price point in advance to maintain a price point now and into the future unless they want bad press for raising prices every few years for largely the same components.

It makes perfect sense why Valve has not announced a price but is warning us to expect it to be like a PC rather than console. As a consumer, I don't like this, but I understand why it is happening.

It seems that with so many issues, Valve shouldn't have bothered launching the Steam Machine at all!

 

[BlueManifest]

Which is why I said the system, and never mentioned the Steam service. But thanks for pointing the obvious out.

And I was saying why it doesn't matter how successful the machine is, this is completely different from how consoles are done where it does matter how much they sale

 

[TikiLagoonSam]

My guess is $799.99 WITHOUT a controller which will be $119.99. This is me bieng optimistic.

 

[Topher]

And I was saying why it doesn't matter how successful the machine is, this is completely different from how consoles are done where it does matter how much they sale

Yep. Valve seems perfectly happy creating niche products like VR and handhelds so this fits with that characteristic. It was never meant to sell massive numbers like consoles.

 

[BlueManifest]

My guess is $799.99 WITHOUT a controller which will be $119.99. This is me bieng optimistic.

Controller isn't going to be 120 lol, worst case is 90 but I think it will be 75-80 same as the console controllers

 

[Mister Wolf]

 

[EN250]

"steam machine won't be priced like a console"

WTH that even means? two gens ago 600 was completely out of the question, 4 years into this gen and we're getting prices going up to 750, the Gabecube is an enthusiastic machine you can have in addition to your PCMR, not a device made to replace it, so there is no need to be the most powerful thing at release because logically it'd never be able to outmatch a PCMR