bundylove
Gold Member
I play alan wake 2 at 30 for the rt and i love it.
This one? Too much stutter
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List of PS5 Pro enhanced games
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This one? Too much stutter
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
I just noticed something curious on PSN .....the PS5 Pro Enhanced tags were removed on the store pages of GT7 and Callisto Protocol ...weird. But they were not removed for BO6 and Silent Hill 2...
tommib
Banned
Whoever’s running that page is high and doesn’t know what they’re doing. Best ignore that section at the moment.
tommib
Banned
I was going to play the whole new DLC in 30 for the RT but I much prefer the performance mode. Image quality is good and RT does little for me most of the times. Performance on the DLC was super solid. Not sure if because of VRR.
In other news, the lake house DLC sucks. The first one was a masterpiece compared to this Control crossover. I love the short episode structure of night springs. Funny, fun, plenty of ammo, and super clever ideas. Lake House is just kind of lame.
Inviusx
Member
I'm going to do bit more testing on D4 and put up a YouTube video. There are significant coverage gaps on some of these launch titles and I think I can fill the void here. Give me a day or so.
Inviusx
Member
Regarding D4, some folks may have suspected that the Enhanced mode is now just the default Performance mode for Pro. I can at least confirm so far that none of the "Enhanced" features from that 30fps mode (RT Shadows or RT Reflections) are present in the Performance mode. The 60+FPS performance mode has the same graphical settings as before. The Enhanced 30fps mode appears to have higher quality RT Shadow and RT Reflections as per Blizzards official communication.
Conclusion so far is that whatever enhancements Blizzard included for their "Pro" support are only reflected in the 30fps mode. Performance mode users (likely 95% of console players) may see an improvement in IQ but for me it's not insanely noticeable from base PS5 and it's still not as sharp as the 30fps Enhanced mode.
So yeah, Blizzard seems to have just Enhanced a mode that nobody was even using...
Conclusion so far is that whatever enhancements Blizzard included for their "Pro" support are only reflected in the 30fps mode. Performance mode users (likely 95% of console players) may see an improvement in IQ but for me it's not insanely noticeable from base PS5 and it's still not as sharp as the 30fps Enhanced mode.
So yeah, Blizzard seems to have just Enhanced a mode that nobody was even using...
RagnarokIV
Battlebus imprisoning me \m/ >.< \m/
Has there been any word on what to expect from the pro patch for SH2? I'm about to buy a Pro, and I'm pretty excited on the RT and PSSR aspect if I can expect it to be better than my PC with 7900 XTX (FSR is seriously that shit, I played SH2 with XeSS).
brenobnfm
Member
Not a high end TV. Yes i do have a high end tv, a Pro, a high end PC, but that's irrelevant, i'm just saying there's no point having a Pro without an Oled tv.
There's a couple of games with issues with the patches right now that will obviously be fixed, using them to say the console isn't worth it is straight up moronic and dishonest.
duck_sauce
Member
Looks like someone got seriously triggered.
Why do people always equate “expensive” with “better”? Just because you shell out a ton of cash doesn’t mean other people’s opinions suddenly don’t count.
Bojji
Member
Portal is 1080p, you are making shit up.
Killjoy-NL
Banned
So, you can't notice any differences in graphics or performance when a screen is 1080p?
Radical_3d
Member
You need 4K to better appreciate the Pro but that OLED thing is nonsense. The different technologies of televisions have their advantages and their weak points. To me Bravia 9 this year is THE SHIT to have and it’s not OLED.
paolo11
Member
Wait, what do you mean? Is it running well on world tour mode and matches using resolution mode?
brenobnfm
Member
Is it? It's worse than a C4 in every way that isn't watching SDR content (who cares?), the C4 is not even a top tier OLED. But yeah you will see a difference if your TV is 4k 120hz even if it's not oled, i just think your priorities are in the wrong place.
Gets beaten in every category by a mid tier OLED https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/lg-c4-oled-vs-sony-bravia-9-qled/49541/53321
Radical_3d
Member
LOL loosing against a C4. Keep reading just Rtings, guys.
gooner4life_uk
Member
The C9 has awful input lag
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
Can we please not derail this thread debating TVs? Thank you
Killjoy-NL
Banned
I'm not the only one and it's even supported by DF:
The PlayStation Portal Benefits From Some Of The PS5 Pro's Enhancements
Does this make the new $700 console worth it?
www.thegamer.com
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Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
Could it be that performance mode now uses pssr? That would explain why it looks so crisp now ...shame we don't get get pssr + higher settings for 60 fps modes.
BTW it's not that Gt7 and Callisto are not on that new Pro page on psn it's that and Pro Enhanced tags have also been removed from their individual pages too
Sony better not be pulling them all together!
brenobnfm
Member
That’s no derailing, people with mid tier or old ass tvs are the ones messing with the thread, a modern OLED tv should be mandatory
King Dazzar
Member
I'm a massive TV enthusiast and we could debate till the cows come home, but we need to stay focused on the Pro enhancements.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Exactly.
OT: The wait for SH2’s update continues. Already beat it on PC, so trying to see if we get a console version that stacks nicely. The OG of both was an easy PC win graphically.
midasmulligan
Member
Would disagree. Have 120 hours in d4 and it was the first pro game I played. Noticeably different in performance mode, far sharper (looks higher res) with much smoother fps. I tried the enhanced mode, but given it’s still 30 fps, haven’t bothered with it.
King Dazzar
Member
I tried the Crew Motorfest free trial in its performance mode. Its a massive improvement. I tried it months ago and found it blurry. As others have already said, its now much improved on Pro. I personally wont be staying with it as I prefer Forza Horizon. But its an interesting alternative on PS5 Pro.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Skitso
Member
Don't worry Bundy, it seems you and I are the only people around here with a proper sized TV.
Skifi28
Member
How is self respect related to wanting better image quality / performance and being able to afford it?
What's pathetic is trying to shame others in a hobby forum about spending money on their hobby. No, it's not necessary. That's what makes it a hobby.
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Nintendo's Witch
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This post has no self respect. Nor his creator lmao.
Wolfpact1983
Member
Moonjt9
No Silksong? = Delivering the pain.
Performance mode was always dynamic res, so the pro is just maxing the res at 4k now all the time with brute force. I also noticed the jump in sharpness, but that’s the only “change” for performance mode.
Seems like any enhancements are in the fidelity mode, but nobody is gonna run that so it’s weird that they wouldn’t add anything to the performance mode.
Exactly. I would pick the bravia 9 over all OLEDs
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Not a peep
Inviusx
Member
It's entirely possible but unless Blizzard were to come out and confirm it I don't think we will know for sure.
I think everyone's mileage may vary with incremental resolution boosts like this. My personal thought is that if there is a boost in IQ on Performance mode, the effect might only be noticeable for those who have a certain TV or sit at a certain viewing distance. I'm not suggesting nothing has been done here, just that for me it's not a night and day difference.
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Inviusx
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Lots of screen tearing. The uncapped games remain uncapped regardless of your TV, it's just that if you have a VRR capable display it will smooth things out. I think a HDMI 2.1 compatible TV is almost essential if you're looking to purchase a Pro, many games are saved by that 48fps VRR range now.
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Is that for boost mode? I heard The Last of Us drops to 30 fps on quality mode but is 50-60 on VRR displays?
MagnetoWasRight
Member
I bought two! Checkmate!
Bojji
Member
I'm not the only one and it's even supported by DF:
The PlayStation Portal Benefits From Some Of The PS5 Pro's Enhancements
Does this make the new $700 console worth it?
It's like saying that you can see big difference between PS4 and PS4 Pro on 720p screen.
There will be some differences (like some obvious ones when gfx settings are different) but all games are downsampling from 4k buffer, no matter internal res or shit like that you get downsampled image. On small 1080p screen vast majority of PS5 games should look pristine.
REAL difference between Pro and PS5 can only be seen on big 4k screen, I don't think it has to be OLED (lol, what a requirement) but good quality screen for sure. PSSR was made to make good looking image on 4k and 8k screens.
TacoSavage
Member
I'm beyond frustrated at this point, I wanted to play Silent Hill 2 and Lego Horizon with PS5 Pro updates and nothing, same with Black Ops 6, three games I was positive would be supported at launch or via patch shortly after and nothing. The Lego Horizon one is just unbelievable, it launched after Pro is out and it's a first party studio game lacking the support for their latest hardware, what are you doing Sony!
I never would have imagined that their shiny new $750 (With stand and taxes) console would not be supported by their latest in house games, just utter disbelief.
I never would have imagined that their shiny new $750 (With stand and taxes) console would not be supported by their latest in house games, just utter disbelief.
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Killjoy-NL
Banned
You can 100% see a difference on Portal, even Richard from DF said as much in the video I posted. If a game runs at lower resolution and becomes more blurry on your tv the same effect will be reflected on your Portal.
This is just most notable on an actual tv.
Even the difference between 120hz on or off in Blops 6 is notable on Portal, even though the screen is only capable of 60hz.
Do you have a Portal, by any chance? And did you use it together with a PS5 and a Pro?
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Btw, I never claimed you could see a big difference on Portal, just that you can see a difference.
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bundylove
Gold Member
Easy answer.Looks like someone got seriously triggered.
Why do people always equate “expensive” with “better”? Just because you shell out a ton of cash doesn’t mean other people’s opinions suddenly don’t count.
My tv has local dimming bringing thr black close to oled level while also giving me better brightness and i can play my games in my living room where its very bright.
Oled was never an option.
Point is oleds are over rated as qleds are almost at the same level currently.
Traxtech
Member
LED can't touch oled in motion clarity though either, and that's just by design. And on the opposite end 30fps is fricken terrible on an OLED(unless you're using Samsung gaming motion plus to save the day) because of how quick the pixel response time is, it's very jarring especially if the game has no motion blur.
They need to design new tech that uses the positives of all the different TV's and make them have a sexy perfect TV baby.
bundylove
Gold Member
The console is fine but its not ready currenrly and so right now as of this day its not worth it.
The more i dig the more i find out that the games that were advertised and pro enhanced are not even patched yet and the games the ones i mentioned are broken.
And you telling me i need an oled when my tv is even better than most is a bit ignorant.
These games like silent hill 2 looked perfect on my base ps5 but now on the pro it looks like shit.
So in summary, most of the promised pro patched games are not patched and games that were fine before are now a mess with some having a pro patch and some dont.
So as there are very few games that have the patch live and for those handful of games its not worth it TODAY.
bundylove
Gold Member
It actually can. I honestly fail to see benefit to oled on mine
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