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[Umbral]

I find people like you super weird.

You said you waited to play Rebirth until the Pro came out. I'm assuming you haven't beaten Rebirth on the Pro yet. SH2 hasn't been patched yet iirc and you knew GT7 wasn't patched yet before you bought it.

So it seems like you're disappointed that you can't play around with more games that aren't ready yet even though you knew they weren't ready when you bought it.

If they didn’t list those games in the store as PS5 Pro Enhanced they probably would have fewer complaints.

Relax, all of those will be releasing the pro patches in the upcoming weeks.

Then remove them from the PS5 Pro Enhanced section of the store.

People complaining about Sony and the patches taking long. To be honest we have seen a slew of games with very poor launches requiring numerous updates. Personally, with GT7 I rather they release a perfected patch for the Pro instead of a half azzed one just to say they launched it on Nov 7th. We've already seen some games with launch patches giving issues. I was an early adopter to the Pro only because of trade in bonus at Gamestop Canada, but I can wait for proper patches.

I think if they just gave a date for some of the patches. Really, any kind of communication from the developers would help.

What could happen now is a normal buyer gets a Pro and expect the listed games to he update only to notice the games have no new options and look identical to standard PS5 because they were never updated but advertised as if they were. Customer returns Pro. Bad PR and word of mouth.

Can I get my six-figure salary now since the person/s running the launch are inept?

 

[Lucifers Beard]

I think this is a good enhanced game actually.

His conclusion is kinda dumb though. The game run at a solid 60 except act 3 but yea play this game at 30fps If you have a non 120hz TV. Maybe the better recommendations is switch to 30fps mode on act 3.

It's a great enhanced game. Playing split screen at 60fps for the vast majority of the time is awesome. Yes, it drops in Act 3 when in the city but it drops on most hardware anyway and as the game is turn based and not a fast paced shooter or action platformer, it doesn't bother me at all.

There's no way I'd switch to 30fps. As someone else mentioned, it's basically the city area that sees the drops, seems silly to play through the entire game at 30fps when it impacts a limited area.

 

[gooner4life_uk]

The games are patched, GT7 isn't showing enhanced, if it shows enhanced it's patched, it's just not what you were hoping or expected, Fortnite and the Finals are pathetic upgrades.

 

[Umbral]

The games are patched, GT7 isn't showing enhanced, if it shows enhanced it's patched, it's just not what you were hoping or expected, Fortnite and the Finals are pathetic upgrades.

Boost mode does not count as enhanced. The PS4 Pro launch set this precedent.

Also patch notes from that time stated support for PS4 Pro and often detailed the enhancements.

 

[SkyHighTrees]

The games are patched, GT7 isn't showing enhanced, if it shows enhanced it's patched, it's just not what you were hoping or expected, Fortnite and the Finals are pathetic upgrades.

I don't think so. It probably depends on something other than the game really being patched like you allude too. Who's changing the games to enhanced or not? This person's wrong because SH2 is not enhanced yet the Store says it is.

 

[gooner4life_uk]

Boost mode does not count as enhanced. The PS4 Pro launch set this precedent.

Also patch notes from that time stated support for PS4 Pro and often detailed the enhancements.

Well Fortnite, The Finals, Black Ops 6, all have the enhanced label and the only enhancement they have is sitting at the high end of the DRS boundary or boost mode.

 

[Lagspike_exe]

Has anyone done a comparison for Diablo 4? I can't find anything on YT, but it does not seem like a significant difference to me.

Also, I tried Hogwarts. I don't really like the RT mode. It does make the graphics more cohesive and life-like, but it's a judder fest with VRR since it is outside the window.

 

[Lagspike_exe]

GT7 runs at 100-120 FPS based on my TV's FPS reading in RT/favor quality mode. Definitely runs smoother and looks cleaner than vanilla PS5.

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

Has anyone done a comparison for Diablo 4? I can't find anything on YT, but it does not seem like a significant difference to me.

Also, I tried Hogwarts. I don't really like the RT mode. It does make the graphics more cohesive and life-like, but it's a judder fest with VRR since it is outside the window.

Yes ...Diablo 4 looks really good and much sharper now

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

It has the high frame rate quality mode without vsync that runs the RT mode at 60 on 120hz VRR sets. I tried it a couple of days ago. Runs great and looks amazing.

That's awesome didn't know

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

GT7 runs at 100-120 FPS based on my TV's FPS reading in RT/favor quality mode. Definitely runs smoother and looks cleaner than vanilla PS5.

GT7 is supposed to have RT reflections though ...this is the strangest Pro Enhanced title yet considering this was the game they used at TGS to demo the Pro as well as the game many YouTubers had the most hands on time with. Then the console comes out and we start hearing about how it may not be patched for Pro after all ...so strange and again indicative of Sony's absolute shit handling of this system...

At least explain to customers that the patch was delayed and when to expect it.

Same deal with Callisto Protocol and Blops 6.

 

[Lagspike_exe]

GT7 is supposed to have RT reflections though ...this is the strangest Pro Enhanced title yet considering this was the game they used at TGS to demo the Pro as well as the game many YouTubers had the most hands on time with. Then the console comes out and we start hearing about how it may not be patched for Pro after all ...so strange and again indicative of Sony's absolute shit handling of this system...

At least explain to customers that the patch was delayed and when to expect it.

Same deal with Callisto Protocol and Blops 6.

Yeah, patch is not out, this is just the boost mode.

 

[Giallo Corsa]

It has the high frame rate quality mode without vsync that runs the RT mode at 60 on 120hz VRR sets. I tried it a couple of days ago. Runs great and looks amazing.

Which unfortunately, makes the game output at 1080p...
I've tried the quality mode but, it's still a juddery mess on OLED even with the motion blur set to cinematic.

VRR quality mode tears, so, the only viable option for a 60 fps mode with RT enabled is the VRR quality V-sync'd one.

Loving the game btw but the image is fuzzy , wish we could have had the normal quality mode at 60fps, oh well...

PS: C2 here with VRR enabled, I don't get why it tears on the HF quality one

 

[NeonGhost]

Sony removed call of duty from the enhanced section in the store

 

[Teh Chosen Juan]

PSSR has huge temporal stability issues on The First Descendant. This should be fixed ASAP.

if you put on frame gen it all goes away and looks amazing. performance mode. RT on. Frame gen on. definitely improved over PS5 and all that shimmering goes away.

 

[Teh Chosen Juan]

Frame Gen should be turned off regardless.

It's complete trash.

i noticed hwen you turn frame gen on, the shimmering goes away. pretty stable (on a vrr screen lg c2) with performance, RT and frame gen on. motion blur off.

 

[Teh Chosen Juan]

I can see its a bit clearer on Performance Pro vs Base Performance and there is less pixel breakup on moving grass, but it doesnt seem to reach the original Base Fidelity mode IQ though. Its seems to be pretty small difference for sure, maybe if he tested more scenes while moving.

IRL it's pretty astounding. i have to say. so crisp and clear. may just be placebo-ing, but the hdr looks brighter and better than base ps5 too.

 

[SkeeterPackage]

Sony removed call of duty from the enhanced section in the store

Would be nice if Sony would say something about this, games showing enhanced not actually enhanced, removing games from the enhanced section when they weren't enhanced in the first place lol.

I'm loving my pro, playing through stellar blade now but wtf Sony. Figure it out.

 

[Gamerguy84]

I have a PS4 version of HZD. Put it on and played it, janky at 30fps, looking rough.

Bought the 10 dollar upgrade and it's blowing my mind, what a difference.

I also have a PS4PRO but didn't put it on yet. Anyway game is gorgeous. I've had plans on FF7R but I'm hooked on this now.

 

[vkbest]

It’s incredible after PS4 Pro people don’t understand yet, Pro enhanced games are those are not running in boost mode. That don’t mean the game have PSSR, or higher resolution/framerate

 

[ShakenG]

GT7 is supposed to have RT reflections though ...this is the strangest Pro Enhanced title yet considering this was the game they used at TGS to demo the Pro as well as the game many YouTubers had the most hands on time with. Then the console comes out and we start hearing about how it may not be patched for Pro after all ...so strange and again indicative of Sony's absolute shit handling of this system...

At least explain to customers that the patch was delayed and when to expect it.

Same deal with Callisto Protocol and Blops 6.

No one said it was patched though. Just some that assumed it was. They said it would release November so you cant really blame them for GT7. Especially when it doesnt have a tag in the store. (Not that thats reliable)

Not seeing the issue here. They usually do the monthly update on the last Thursday every month.

 

[Darko]

Sony has been abysmal with their handling of the Pro. For Christ sakes there are a good 6 major Sony exclusives with NO iota of even a hint that a patch is coming....why do we let this kind of thing slide as gamers? There's no excuse for the consoles maker to go silent about a game like Returnal, or Uncharted 4 Legacy collection, or Ghost of Tsushima and Death Stranding, or brand fucking new Astrobot.

and yeah .. how about at least an idea of WHEN GT7's patch is coming? Considering it has not only been listed as a Pro enhanced games but it's one of the main games they used to promote the console ...it just boggles the mind sometimes how these companies have no sense of respect for the very people who support them the most.

Wow I thought these games were patched already… hoping black ops 6 gets it tomoorow

 

[Umbral]

Well Fortnite, The Finals, Black Ops 6, all have the enhanced label and the only enhancement they have is sitting at the high end of the DRS boundary or boost mode.

Therein lies the issue. Uncertainty among the buyer. Sony fumbled this launch and their communication around it.

 

[brenobnfm]

After dicking around with some games and being let down by some , my conclusion is the pro is not worth a buy this year.
But next year , in 4 to 6 months we will finaly see what it can deliver.
This right now feels like the ps5 release with little to no games and bunch of old games running a bit better.

No one is missing out on anything right now.

You need glasses or a new tv, maybe both.

 

[MaKTaiL]

if you put on frame gen it all goes away and looks amazing. performance mode. RT on. Frame gen on. definitely improved over PS5 and all that shimmering goes away.

So what exactly is happening here? I just tried the game on PC with FSR and looks exactly like the one in the video. PSSR not working? Or PSSR only working with Frame Gen on?

 

[DaleinCalgary]

Sony removed call of duty from the enhanced section in the store

I noticed it runs about 10 fps better in 120 mode. Thats it

 

[bundylove]

You need glasses or a new tv, maybe both.

I dont think you can compete with my 85 inch qn95c.

But please go ahead and convince me hiw good jedi survivor or silent hill 2 look on the pro.

 

[Lagspike_exe]

Sony removed call of duty from the enhanced section in the store

Nothing in Season 1 patch notes either.

 

[bundylove]

You need glasses or a new tv, maybe both.

 

[AGRacing]

Is there anything concrete about what it did for Fortnite? I know we cool dude bros tend to ignore that game but it is the most refined example of UE5 with lumen, nanite and the potentially hardware ray tracing (based on what’s available in PC settings).

If would also be an excellent case study on PSSR vs PC upscaling.

Any data anywhere ?

 

[brenobnfm]

I dont think you can compete with my 85 inch qn95c.

Don't even bother with a PS5 Pro if you don't have an Oled really.

Yeah genius, we all know there are issues with this particular game.

 

[bundylove]

Don't even bother with a PS5 Pro if you don't have an Oled really.



Yeah genius, we all know there are issues with this particular game.

Lol oled my ass. You think i didnt do my research after spending north of 5k on a new tv?

The only genius here must be you with your weak comments.

This particular game?
Not mentioning jedi survivor that is pro patched?

Get out of here and pick on someone else.

At least i have a high end tv and a pro. Unlike you

 

[Spukc]

Lol oled my ass. You think i didnt do my research after spending north of 5k on a new tv?

The only genius here must be you with your weak comments.

This particular game?
Not mentioning jedi survivor that is pro patched?

Get out of here and pick on someone else.

At least i have a high end tv and a pro. Unlike you

Rude

 

[AlphaDump]

That Silent Hill 2 issue is actually preventing me from buying the game.

There is a lot of potential for the ps5 pro but so far Sony has done a pretty shitty job at prioritizing games for launch that really capitalize on those enhancements. Seeing how Horizon remaster doesn't even use PSSR but its own method is also bizarre. It all just seems confusing.

 

[Lagspike_exe]

That Silent Hill 2 issue is actually preventing me from buying the game.

There is a lot of potential for the ps5 pro but so far Sony has done a pretty shitty job at prioritizing games for launch that really capitalize on those enhancements. Seeing how Horizon remaster doesn't even use PSSR buts own method is also bizarre. It all just seems confusing.

PSSR takes 2ms of rendering time. TAA and other non-ML upscalers are much less compute intensive, so the devs seemingly thought that the cheaper upscaler they use are better in that specific game.

 

[phant0m]

Lol oled my ass. You think i didnt do my research after spending north of 5k on a new tv?

The only genius here must be you with your weak comments.

This particular game?
Not mentioning jedi survivor that is pro patched?

Get out of here and pick on someone else.

At least i have a high end tv and a pro. Unlike you

This is the saddest attempt to flex I’ve ever seen on GAF.

 

[GeorgioCostanzaX]

So does Street Fighter 6 count in the enhanced not patched category? I swear it’s running significantly better and sharper for me and some others reporting it on Reddit.

 

[bundylove]

Rude

Cuz he wasnt , right?

Sorry the pro has major issues and is not ready in my mind. Games are broken or have basic upgrades.

Yes i only played 4 pro games that mattered to me and it was a very weak showing. Jedi in performance mode is so bad it blows my mind.
Its not my fault some people dont like my critic.

And all i said that the pro will be worth thr buy by next year and for now no one is missing out on it.

Whats wrong with my statement?

 

[bundylove]

This is the saddest attempt to flex I’ve ever seen on GAF.

Oh dont worry i have plenty to flex with.

Sorry but i wasnt the one who says get a new tv or new eyes if i dont like the image quality of the pro.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Cuz he wasnt , right?

Sorry the pro has major issues and is not ready in my mind. Games are broken or have basic upgrades.

Yes i only played 4 pro games that mattered to me and it was a very weak showing. Jedi in performance mode is so bad it blows my mind.
Its not my fault some people dont like my critic.

And all i said that the pro will be worth thr buy by next year and for now no one is missing out on it.

Whats wrong with my statement?

Have said it many times it’s a test for devs to get good at iPSSR when it’s standard for PS6 and everyone can thank us early adopters

 

[Lagspike_exe]

Have said it many times it’s a test for devs to get good at iPSSR when it’s standard for PS6 and everyone can thank us early adopters

Any rumors on BLOPS6 patch?

 

[bundylove]

Have said it many times it’s a test for devs to get good at iPSSR when it’s standard for PS6 and everyone can thank us early adopters

Oh i know. Just dissapointed in the games i wanted to play badly.

I am convinced and saw myself how much better spiderman ans horizon looks but i already went past them.
The pro is fine. It just will take time for devs to use it propper.

 

[FrankWza]

Have said it many times it’s a test for devs to get good at iPSSR when it’s standard for PS6 and everyone can thank us early adopters

 

[bundylove]

Any news on what pavr 2 games will have any upgrade?
Or are there any games that use some boost mode on the pro?

I have a massive backlog and am ready to burn through them

 

[Spukc]

So does Street Fighter 6 count in the enhanced not patched category? I swear it’s running significantly better and sharper for me and some others reporting it on Reddit.

Cool! It used dynamic scaling .. do i guess yes

 

[SkeeterPackage]

You definitely don't need a OLED for the pro, that's just nonsense lol.

I have a 65 inch Hisense U8K and the difference is absolutely noticable.

 

[bundylove]

You definitely don't need a OLED for the pro, that's just nonsense lol.

I have a 65 inch Hisense U8K and the difference is absolutely noticable.

Yeah who the hell came up with this bs that you need an oled?
My 85 inch qn95c is just as good if not better especially in my bright living room.

 

[emivita]

Yeah who the hell came up with this bs that you need an oled?
My 85 inch qn95c is just as good if not better especially in my bright living room.

49" Sony XF90 from 2018 here, still rocking. You also don't need a bigger TV to enjoy PS5 Pro.

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

I dont think you can compete with my 85 inch qn95c.

But please go ahead and convince me hiw good jedi survivor or silent hill 2 look on the pro.

Jedi does look amazing ...at 30 fps

 

[Killjoy-NL]

You definitely don't need a OLED for the pro, that's just nonsense lol.

I have a 65 inch Hisense U8K and the difference is absolutely noticable.

This.

You can already see a noticeable difference on Portal, let alone an actual non-OLED tv.