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London 2012 Summer Olympics |OT2|
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CrunchinJelly
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A player on offense can't recieve the ball within the red line. Green line is just a penalty throw line I think, like a free throw line in basketball.
BertramCooper
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Determining "greatest Olympian ever" purely by medal count is a stupid concept anyway.
Not all Olympians can compete in a dozen different medal events in a single Olympics like swimmers can.
Not all Olympians can compete in a dozen different medal events in a single Olympics like swimmers can.
Well fuck. I guess I'll have to keep checking throughout the day tomorrow.
Keep an eye to twitter throughout the day. Best way to find out when they have gone up.
JetBlackPanda
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This NBC prime time shit sucks but at least my wife can catch up after her work day where she can't stream it on her iPad like I can.
The people you all keep mentioning have legitimate reasons to be torn down: phelps/work ethic and weed, tiger/cheating and his game falling off a cliff, lebron/the decision and declaration of seven championships then losing to Dallas while playing like shit.
To not call those people out on that and discuss it would be the disservice, not looking past it.
Yet many athletes, if not most, never get anything but praise from the media their entire careers. Guys like Tom Brady and Peyton manning might get knocked occasionally but overall have never been outcasted. Countless Olympians are the same. Basketball players like CP3 and Durant I can't remember ever being piled on to.
You all make it seem like its an inevitability if youre a star and i disagree. The media is shitty but it's not some monolithic entity that follows a set pattern through all players careers.
It's funny how each room has a box of condoms on there beds....Dat global melting pot.
weekend_warrior
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The syncro-dive judging is an absolute farce.
And the media is really forgiving to a lot of athletes. Ali was not the nicest guy but the media loves him and then you got MJ who by all accounts, is an asshole, but people love him.
Psychotext
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Should skip the condoms and make some SUPER BABBIES.
Though there might be an issue as to which country gets to claim them in the case of cross border fuckage.
OpinionatedCyborg
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I can't get behind syncro diving. I just don't get the point. It seems like a sport for all of the divers who aren't good enough to win in singles diving. Get rid of it.
Death Dealer
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True. There are many ways of looking at things. Phelps may not be the best ever, but he's certainly among the best. Kim Rhode is among the best too. She won a medal 5 olympics in a row. First time that's been done. Of course you could argue age is less of a factor for marksmanship contests. Just like you could argue swimmers and runners have more chances to medal than most other athletes.
Agent Unknown
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Exactly, all this stuff about "Oh people are just hatin' on Phelps now like Kobe and the media needs a 'fallen' hero to tear into, you don't like him because of personality when you should be focusing on his talent as an athlete" is pure nonsense and a load of strawmen. Maybe if he was a bit more enthusiastic and not a bit bored with things he would've snagged even more gold. In this case his attitude was a reflection of his performance as an athlete. Lochte has stupid gimmicks like his grills/biting the medals but his attitude and appetite for what he does is infectious.
I was thinking the exact same thing earlier today.
I'm not questioning his ability, but there aren't 6 shooting events or 7 tennis events etc etc.
Knux-Future
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Except Phelps isn't gonna be forgotten either. He's gonna be loved for a while too(unless he fucks up big time).
Smoking some tree isn't that big of a deal, IMO...and the whole work ethic thing is lol IMO. If he's not even trying then that's some impressive ass shit to still be in the running for medals.
Phelps is on his Snoop Dogg/Lion mode now....Doesn't have to make a good record (or win gold in Phelps case) again.
That shits gravy.
who cares if he has the personality of a rock. Dude's got records, he was a straight monster in the last two Olympics, anybody who thinks he is a bum is a moron anyway.
SolidSnakex
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They both had the benefit of not playing when the media was at the frenzy that it is now. No one is going to attack Ali given the shape that he's in and MJ's career is long over. So they'll just praise him for being the best basketball player ever. The venom is saved for current athletes. All those secrets that were easy to keep under wraps in the past (infidelity, gambling problems etc) will quickly be exposed by the current media.
lucius
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I really have not heard Phelps being called Greatest Olympian of all time, I defintely heard one of the greatest swimmers many times being said also people adding if not the greatest swimmer or one of the greatest Olympians of all time. Many regard Carl Lewis as a more impressive American Olympian, could have sworn something voted him athlete of century at one point.
Also Phelps isn't liked by alot of atheletes, but even one of the swimming analysts said he has improved on that, mentioning that he may not be a better swimmer at this Olympics but he is a better person. Supposedly he was real hard to get along with but now is more laid back.
Also Phelps isn't liked by alot of atheletes, but even one of the swimming analysts said he has improved on that, mentioning that he may not be a better swimmer at this Olympics but he is a better person. Supposedly he was real hard to get along with but now is more laid back.
And if you are in team sport, you may not even qualify if you are born in a lessor country.
Annie Chandler, the girl Matt Grevers is engaged to, was 5th in the 100 breaststroke at US trials and Rebecca Soni and Ricky Berens have been dating for a while (he moved to train at her club), so there is hope (that America can stay ahead of China in swimming at least).
Edit: I'll be looking for these kids in Tokyo/Madrid/Istanbul 2020.
Knux-Future
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SolidSnakex
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Don't worry, he'll make up for it.
and if they did I bet they wouldn't remain unbeaten for 12 years, break a world record in every event, win 8 gold medals in 8 days and/or win 19 medals overall.
There is really no point in calling someone the "Greatest Olympian" unless they actually compete across a broad range of Olympic disciplines. Since the path to gold (or any medal) is so different in all events, it kind of diminishes what other people are doing.
On another note, I tried to avoid seeing results for the events today but completely failed. Spoilers everywhere.
On another note, I tried to avoid seeing results for the events today but completely failed. Spoilers everywhere.
a medal is a medal. It doesn't matter if you won it running the fastest or by jumping the highest.
Michael Phelps is the greatest Olympic athlete ever by any measure.
I thought he was a proven drug-cheat that was covered up?
Napoleonthechimp
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Whatever makes you feel better.
Would he win gold and break records in track.
Same for Carl Lewis. Would he do the same in swimming.
Would either of them win in volleyball, table tennis, gymnastics...
How is he the greatest by every measure?
What you can say is he is at the top of swimming, but not greatest Olympian ever.
lucius
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I don't even really like after the decathon winner some label him greatest athlete in the world. But I guess that is one of the closest things you can argue, but imo when Jordan was at his peak I thought he was a better athlete than some past decathlon winners.
no, you missed my point. A gold medal in swimming is equal to a gold medal in any other sport. You can't say he's not the best because somebody can beat him at volleyball, that's dumb.
I dunno, far from all athletes have the opportunity to win 7-8 medals in one olympic.
Agent Unknown
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Reading comprehension fail. Nobody's disputing his records or that he is a great swimmer, as said before, it's HIS WORK ETHIC AND ARROGANT ATTITUDE TOWARD THE GAME WHICH MANY FEEL WAS REFLECTED A BIT IN HOW HE PERFORMED THIS YEAR He could act like a wacko for all I care if he'd just shown some more tenacity and enthusiasm for the competition this year he would've so much more fun to watch and maybe would've won even more. Instead it totally came across as "Welp, I hate the 400 but whatever I guess I'm here to mop up those last medals." But yes, please keep casting dispersions and calling others morons for not being as jazzed as you are for "the greatest Olympian of all time" who'd rather be on XBL or eating a hoagie.
weekend_warrior
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Perfect vault, should have gotten 10's. Fuck you judges.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Man, I'm really curious now what they gave her a deduction on. That vault was insane.
Seriously. My jaw dropped.
If Phelps doesn't have haters then he's doing something wrong.
Now how about this Ye Shiwen girl? Wtf kind of enigmatic PEDs are the Chinese doping their athletes with?
On the slow mo reply you see a judge with her mouth wide open. Crazy
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