London riots spreading through UK
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outunderthestars
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Dead Man said:
I was serious when I asked about what it would take for your opinion to change. How much crime should the police basically allow to happen out of fear of hurting the criminals?
What if that woman jumping from the burning building died? The would it be ok to tear gas and pepper spray them?
Prologue said:
A more proactive policing strategy. I cannot remember the last major multi-day riot we have had. I guess the Rodney King riots..
Vigilant Walrus
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Can't we just restart the world economy like we restart a computer? Nobody owes anyone anything. All debt gone. Now global currency: Space Dollars (then they will also be good for when we go to space).
the chinese will be angry because they buy US debt, but someone has to pay, lol (space dollars!)
the chinese will be angry because they buy US debt, but someone has to pay, lol (space dollars!)
TheExecutive
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The police force is established by a state to protect the innocent. If they are failing to do so then they are not performing their public duties. If rioters are breaking the law they need to be stopped immediately. Escalation should be dealt with if and when it occurs.spiderman123 said:
If this was a protest of societal discontent, why not attack government institutions, leave statements, and actually make a point of communicating that? People are being attacked, mugged, and stores broken into and looted- these aren't the actions of those trying to make a political point; these are the actions of opportunistic thieves looking to get themselves a new tv. That's not to say that these actions might not be the result of societal discontent; I just don't think informing the government of their discontent is the point.
BattleMonkey
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Prologue said:
We got guns in our houses, probably better equipped police forces too
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Prologue said:
You did, we've taken care of it. I feel for the British people because it's not like the police have their hands tied - they have them tied, blindfolded, and chained to a tree. That's about how effective they are.
Unless that tear gas and pepper spray would have saved her life... what would be the point? I don't have any great objection to tear gas, I've been on the receiving end of it myself on more than one occasion, as long as police aren't bashing heads at the same time it is pretty safe I think. I don't understand why you want to know at what point I would advocate violence.outunderthestars said:
Massive Sony Distribution Centre set on fire in North London.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14454359
Got a chuckle out of this
But fucking hell 750 people worked there? Now they're unemployed. Fuck sake, these dumb fuckers are ruining peoples lives.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14454359
Got a chuckle out of this
But fucking hell 750 people worked there? Now they're unemployed. Fuck sake, these dumb fuckers are ruining peoples lives.
spiderman123
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Dead Man said:
Then the question becomes how do you achieve that desired result because either way public opinion is going to drop, the rate at which it will drop based on a given scenario is a different question.
BlazingDarkness
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Ultimatum said:
No.
These people do nothing to better themselves, they live off of government funding and housing given to them by the government, they don't work, they have no social standing and quite frankly are disgusting pigs.
All this whole thing is, to them, is a bit of fun, they can fuck shit up and get away with it, and steal things because they feel no remorse or responsibility for their actions, they're not revolting against the government because of discontent, they're just screwing over the hardworking society because they are selfish and they have fuck all else to do.
Any other night they'd be hanging around their shit infested estates (that they ruined) drinking til the early hours and fighting amongst each other, these events are them shitting on our doorsteps instead of their own. These people aren't clever enough to do anything but mindless looting.
radioheadrule83
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traveler said:
This is the kind of person at the heart of all this
https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150333636850851
They are fucking pond life. There is nothing Great about Great Britain tonight.. these fucking pricks are showing us up to the whole world.
TheExecutive
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Yeah, I mean if ppl wouldnt be breaking into houses over here... there are serious consequences to such things and there should be.BattleMonkey said:
spiderman123
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Dead Man said:
Their actions are based on protecting the greater public. This is a handful ( not necessarily a handful but for quantitative comparison) of thugs taking advantage of an opportunity.
Dark Machine
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teh_pwn said:
Yeah, a farmer here shot a burglar a few years back. The Burglar sued him and got compensation and the farmer got 2 years for GBH.
*sigh*
TheExecutive
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And its exactly what should happen.Ripclawe said:
outunderthestars
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teh_pwn said:
Not just in Texas. A good percentage of home owners keep a gun. I keep a loaded shotgun near the bed in case something were to happen. I honestly hope I never have to use it, but if someone breaks into my home I wouldn't hesitate to....
zeitgeist said:
Not if the money to pay it came from unemployment/welfare anyhow...
Dark Machine
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zeitgeist said:
You're just recycling government money though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riotsPrologue said:
Three days of bad rioting after the Rodney King cops were acquitted, put down when National Guard troops were called in to help enforce a curfew. 53 killed, thousands injured.
BlazingDarkness
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These people live off benefits, fining them will do cock all.zeitgeist said:
radioheadrule83
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whalekock said:
Hopefully they get tried under terrorism offences (terrorism act 2000) - I don't know if that would be possible. In cases of arson, how about attempted murder. There'll be a fair few assault / GBH charges I'd imagine as well. We should bring back fucking stocks so these cunts have to stand with their head in blocks of wood at the epicentre of their own destruction... make them answer to the shopkeepers and home-owners whose lives they've completely fucked up... whose car insurance premiums will be increasing.
Prologue said:
London Scenario: "Come on man the cops are not stopping this lets go! Free Nikes!" Looters notice cops sipping tea and doing nothing. Looter says, "Nothing left, on to the next town we go!"
US Scenario: Dude lets break into a house/business and loot the place. Bang! Buddies head explodes into 100 pieces. Fellow rioters see the cause and effect. Word spreads. Game over.
Fenderputty
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ag-my001 said:
I was on the way to the Dodger game in LA the day the verdict was announced. By the time we left the stadium palm trees were on fire. I remember leaving the stadium and my mother freaking out. Telling us to keep our heads down and such.
The English Conquistador said:
I'm pretty sure the wall at the end of the road is stable markets. So turn right from there and you'll head up toward chalk farm station (a bit beyond that where I live), and if you turn left you'll head toward camden town station.
Right now I'm contemplating going to sleep, but despite everything seemingly calming down around here I just don't feel safe. How can anyone with these cunts roaming the street? This is all just so unbelievable, I'm in disbelief. :-/
As for police actions, I'd 100% support any action taken by the police at this point. I don't care how young these looters are, or whether they got caught up in some bullshit mob mentality. They would deserve anything they got at this point.
It's shows how much of a mess we're in when this or something not far from it, is probably what will happen.Eiji said:
The youth of today have no fear of prison. It's a holiday for them. Our justice system is such a joke that hundreds of prisoners are let out early because the prisons aren't big enough, people get joke sentences, we don't have enough police officers and amidst all of this the government wants to cut public services. The thought of prison or a criminal record is not working as a deterrent anymore and the government has to act now or I shudder to think what will happen in the near future.
TheExecutive
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Dunno the laws over there but thats why people own guns.Ronok said:
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goomba said:
I thought it was three. Also: LA is fucking crazyland. CRAZYLAND.
shadyspace
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Because LA is LA.goomba said:
outunderthestars
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goomba said:
Technically the violence and mayhem ended within hours of armed soldiers arriving. Funny how that worked: put people on the street with weapons and permission to use them and suddenly the violence ends.....
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Ronok said:
They can bring one in whether you have one or not. Even the odds!
Boss Doggie
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Fucking youths.
TheExecutive
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Well, I am not trying to trivialize your fears or anything but they still would have to break into the house/apartment. I doubt your going to sleep that soundly anyway :/. It sucks anyway, sorry about your plight. I would raise hell with my local politicians when this is over.Ronok said:
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