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Mac OS X Mountain Lion. Move your Mac even further ahead

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mrkgoo

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Guys anyone having some weird issues with safari since the last update hit?

It will randomly close sometimes after I open a tab.

I get some plugin error every now and then on youtube.

Gifs are not playing correctly.

There's a lot of other stuff too, most minor issues.

It worked perfectly for me before I updated to Mountain Lion

It's probably not the answer you want to hear, but it can help to know, but my Safari has been working pretty well. Occasional hangs, but very occasional. It has been solid for me.
 
Guys anyone having some weird issues with safari since the last update hit?

Yes! Was going to post about them...

It will randomly close sometimes after I open a tab.

I get some plugin error every now and then on youtube.

These are the main ones I'm having. The tab error always happens when opening a tab in the background. Then when I reopen Safari (the error scripting with 'report' prompt doesn't appear) it goes directly to my homepage, without remembering my previously opened tabs.

The YouTube error happens again when opening tabs in the background. When I eventually go to the video I'm told 'plug-in not found.' Refreshing often doesn't work, I have to quit and re-open Safari.

It's getting pretty annoying!
I have a few others errors too, most recently was finder windows not remembering positions/sizes, meaning I had to delete the .DS_Store files and start over. Seems okay for now but it's just one of numerous bugs I've dealt with since upgrading to ML.
 

NekoFever

Member
Guys anyone having some weird issues with safari since the last update hit?

It will randomly close sometimes after I open a tab.

I get some plugin error every now and then on youtube.

Gifs are not playing correctly.

There's a lot of other stuff too, most minor issues.

It worked perfectly for me before I updated to Mountain Lion
No crashes or anything, but I've had garbled GIFs since 10.8.
 

noah111

Still Alive
Finally got around to updating to 10.8.2, and i'm sure it's been mentioned but fuck YESSS to the space-switching animation finally being snappy again.
 

The Real Abed

Perma-Junior
Finally got around to updating to 10.8.2, and i'm sure it's been mentioned but fuck YESSS to the space-switching animation finally being snappy again.
So glad they fixed that. It was so slow like moles asses in winter and painful.

Still wish I could speed it up a bit but it's much better than it was.
 
Finally got around to updating to 10.8.2, and i'm sure it's been mentioned but fuck YESSS to the space-switching animation finally being snappy again.

guess I can upgrade to ML again.

still might wait for Photoshop's graphics acceleration to be fixed but...I'm really happy to get this confirmation.
 

Majine

Banned
I wish there was a number next to the notification center icon on the top bar, indicating how many unadressed notifications there are without me having to check it by swiping or clicking there.
 

corn_fest

Member
I'm going to be taking my rMBP in to an Apple Store for a couple issues. A few questions:
If they replace it, what will happen to my licensed software such as Creative Suite? Will the DRM be bothered by the fact that it's a new machine?
Does Time Machine back up everything, including all of the preferences files and everything, for installed applications, or only standalone applications?
Should I make an image of my entire drive instead, and if so, can I just restore it in gParted or something?
 

The Real Abed

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I'm going to be taking my rMBP in to an Apple Store for a couple issues. A few questions:
If they replace it, what will happen to my licensed software such as Creative Suite? Will the DRM be bothered by the fact that it's a new machine?
Does Time Machine back up everything, including all of the preferences files and everything, for installed applications, or only standalone applications?
Should I make an image of my entire drive instead, and if so, can I just restore it in gParted or something?
Depends on what you choose to exclude. TM should do everything if you ask it to.
 

mollipen

Member
OMG I'm getting sick of Messages. It just continually logs me out (and back in) to my AIM accounts. I never, ever had this issue with iChat, so I've no clue what's going on. I really hope this is something that's going to be fixed in an upcoming update.
 
Is there any way to make it so that when I click the maximize button, the window will take up the entire screen minus the menu bar and dock? It fills it up vertically, but not horizontally. It just feels like wasted space. I know about full screen mode, I'd rather have the menu bar and dock visible all the time.

Edit: really just Safari and iTunes.
 

The Real Abed

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Is there any way to make it so that when I click the maximize button, the window will take up the entire screen minus the menu bar and dock? It fills it up vertically, but not horizontally. It just feels like wasted space. I know about full screen mode, I'd rather have the menu bar and dock visible all the time.

Edit: really just Safari and iTunes.
Just use Fullscreen mode. Embrace the awesome future of gesturing between applications. Both iTunes and Safari have fullscreen and it is glorious. I don't know how I ever survived before Lion.

Or download one of the many apps that can do this. Some that make it like Windows 7. Others that modify the green + button to do this.

Better Touch Tool does the Windows 7 thing.

Moom modifies the + button.

But I prefer Fullscreen soooooooooooo much.
 

cyberheater

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I've just installed a SSD on my 2009 Macbook Pro running ML. God damn what a difference. It's like getting a new machine.
 
Is there any way to make it so that when I click the maximize button, the window will take up the entire screen minus the menu bar and dock? It fills it up vertically, but not horizontally. It just feels like wasted space. I know about full screen mode, I'd rather have the menu bar and dock visible all the time.

Edit: really just Safari and iTunes.
It sounds like you want to choose between the wasted space of a visible desktop or wasted space within the browser/file list.
 

The Real Abed

Perma-Junior
I kinda wish that in Mission Control, the Safari tabs seperate so you can pick one out.
Seriously. This should be a built-in feature of web browsers in the tab-based age. Chrome has Tab Overview but it's not as convenient. When I go into MC, even if the window with the tabs is a Fullscreen window, the tabs should all display tiled in that space. This is not rocket surgery. It doesn't take a brain scientist to figure out this stuff. The worst is right-clicking the Dock and only seeing the current tab for each window instead of a list of all tabs.

Apple should have provided API hooks for this from the start. Once Exposé was invented.
 

Majine

Banned
Seriously. This should be a built-in feature of web browsers in the tab-based age. Chrome has Tab Overview but it's not as convenient. When I go into MC, even if the window with the tabs is a Fullscreen window, the tabs should all display tiled in that space. This is not rocket surgery. It doesn't take a brain scientist to figure out this stuff. The worst is right-clicking the Dock and only seeing the current tab for each window instead of a list of all tabs.

Apple should have provided API hooks for this from the start. Once Exposé was invented.

Yeah, it seems like browser tabs live in their own little world. They should be treated as seperate windows in features like MC, which I use so much and it's awesome. Just needs to go that extra distance.
 

cyberheater

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Pretty awesome eh?

I've been a few weeks with my new SSD in my late 2009 iMac and it's been well worth the hassle.

Yes. I had hassle as well. It turns out that Macbook Pro unibody's of 2009 vintage suffer from an internal degrading SATA cable. Once the genius crew in the apple store replaced it, my new SSD was instantly recognised and it was plain sailing from then on. It's amazing fast.

I can boot in less then 7 seconds. Waking from sleep is instantaneous. Most apps open instantly. I've got a XP machine via virtual box that opens in less then 4 seconds.

It really is an amazing upgrade. I would heartily recommend it to anyone.

What hassle did you have?
 
Yes. I had hassle as well. It turns out that Macbook Pro unibody's of 2009 vintage suffer from an internal degrading SATA cable. Once the genius crew in the apple store replaced it, my new SSD was instantly recognised and it was plain sailing from then on. It's amazing fast.

I can boot in less then 7 seconds. Waking from sleep is instantaneous. Most apps open instantly. I've got a XP machine via virtual box that opens in less then 4 seconds.

It really is an amazing upgrade. I would heartily recommend it to anyone.

What hassle did you have?
iMac is possibly a bit more complex due to the big ass screen you have to remove. :p

But the biggest headache was really disconnecting and then re-connecting the cables attached from the motherboard to the back of the LCD. You can only lift the screen up a few inches because of those cables being quite short. So you have to creep your head and fingers inside this pretty small space to disconnect these delicate ass cables hoping not to lift the LCD too high and snap one. (look here for pics of teardown: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iMac-Intel-27-Inch-EMC-2309-and-2374-Teardown/1236/1)

Also, because I went the cheap way I had some difficulty mounting my SSD in the optical drive bay. I modified the existing bay to house my SSD so that took a bit of time. I chose not to buy one of those pre-made optical to SSD bays. Which lead me to my next issue...

The slimline SATA cable needed to plug into the optical bay slot. The optical bay SATA port is NOT a normal SATA port. This need is usually bypassed by buying one of those expensive optical to SSD bays. It has the adapter built right into it. But since I DIY'd the bay myself I had to find a Male Slimline to Female SATA cable. HELL!

Boot time is as you said about 5-7 seconds. Shutdown time is a bit slower. I'd say it's almost equal to or a bit slower than what it was on just the mechanical drive. I have theories on this but I haven't spent the time to look into it as of yet. I still have my mechanical drive in my iMac as a media drive so I'm thinking because I still have that drive in, plus the SSD, the iMac is taking just as long as before, if not longer, to shutdown, because it's shutting down both drives. Not sure though. My media drive doesn't have an OS on it.

I also upped from 4GB TO 8GB of ram. Figured why the hell not? Whole thing cost me just over $100 bucks. I only got the 64GB SSD and it is plenty.
 

cyberheater

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iMac is possibly a bit more complex due to the big ass screen you have to remove. :p

But the biggest headache was really disconnecting and then re-connecting the cables attached from the motherboard to the back of the LCD. You can only lift the screen up a few inches because of those cables being quite short. So you have to creep your head and fingers inside this pretty small space to disconnect these delicate ass cables hoping not to lift the LCD too high and snap one. (look here for pics of teardown: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iMac-Intel-27-Inch-EMC-2309-and-2374-Teardown/1236/1)

Also, because I went the cheap way I had some difficulty mounting my SSD in the optical drive bay. I modified the existing bay to house my SSD so that took a bit of time. I chose not to buy one of those pre-made optical to SSD bays. Which lead me to my next issue...

The slimline SATA cable needed to plug into the optical bay slot. The optical bay SATA port is NOT a normal SATA port. This need is usually bypassed by buying one of those expensive optical to SSD bays. It has the adapter built right into it. But since I DIY'd the bay myself I had to find a Male Slimline to Female SATA cable. HELL!

Boot time is as you said about 5-7 seconds. Shutdown time is a bit slower. I'd say it's almost equal to or a bit slower than what it was on just the mechanical drive. I have theories on this but I haven't spent the time to look into it as of yet. I still have my mechanical drive in my iMac as a media drive so I'm thinking because I still have that drive in, plus the SSD, the iMac is taking just as long as before, if not longer, to shutdown, because it's shutting down both drives. Not sure though. My media drive doesn't have an OS on it.

I also upped from 4GB TO 8GB of ram. Figured why the hell not? Whole thing cost me just over $100 bucks. I only got the 64GB SSD and it is plenty.

Wow. You went the extra mile.

I also notice the shut downs are not any faster then with a normal hard drive. It's doesn't bother me but now that you''ve mentioned it I'm going to do some investigating. It should only take a second or so.

Have you also used Trim Enabler.

http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/37852/trim-enabler
 

bowery

Member
is there any way to expand the number of tabs safari can show? it usually gets till like 10 then an arrow appears that hold all your extra tabs, i dug around preferences but couldnt find it unless im blind and missed it
 
Wow. You went the extra mile.

I also notice the shut downs are not any faster then with a normal hard drive. It's doesn't bother me but now that you''ve mentioned it I'm going to do some investigating. It should only take a second or so.

Have you also used Trim Enabler.

http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/37852/trim-enabler
Yeah, but overall it really wasn't that bad. My situation was just made a bit more difficult because I opted to remove the never-used optical bay instead of a straight swap for the mechanical drive. I wanted to save money and had to find that damn cable. Amazon to the rescue of course.

I don't have trim enabled. I've read mixed opinions on whether to enable it or not and was just too much for me and then just forgot about it. If you find out about the shutdown times please let me know. Do you have trim enabled?

Now I don't know what to do. :\

I have a crucial m4 for the record.
 

Sanjuro

Member
If you're using a SSD, always use Trim Enabler. You'll have to use it normally after each OSX update as Apple disables it for all non-stock SSD drives.

If you do a Windows partition, it's not something you need to worry about.
 

cyberheater

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Yeah, but overall it really wasn't that bad. My situation was just made a bit more difficult because I opted to remove the never-used optical bay instead of a straight swap for the mechanical drive. I wanted to save money and had to find that damn cable. Amazon to the rescue of course.

I don't have trim enabled. I've read mixed opinions on whether to enable it or not and was just too much for me and then just forgot about it. If you find out about the shutdown times please let me know. Do you have trim enabled?

Now I don't know what to do. :\

I have a crucial m4 for the record.

About Trim. I've no idea. Apparently all consumer newer SSD's have built in garbage collection. I've enable Trim because I can as a precaution.

I guess if and when you notice performance degradation then it's time to do something. Otherwise don't bother.
 
If you're using a SSD, always use Trim Enabler. You'll have to use it normally after each OSX update as Apple disables it for all non-stock SSD drives.

If you do a Windows partition, it's not something you need to worry about.

About Trim. I've no idea. Apparently all consumer newer SSD's have built in garbage collection. I've enable Trim because I can as a precaution.

I guess if and when you notice performance degradation then it's time to do something. Otherwise don't bother.
This is the kind of stuff that makes it difficult to make a decision lol. So many opinions.

I'm the precautionary type so ill probably enable it now. IF it won't cause me any problems. If its one of those things that can have potential benefit and no problems then why not? Is there any con to enabling? I guess if there wasn't, we'd have everyone agreeing to enable it.
 
I'm probably not asking this in the right place, but I'm having trouble getting Steam games to launch on my MBA's Windows 7 partition. It's a fresh install, and when the game says "preparing to launch" the box disappears shortly and nothing happens. Everything is up to date, too.

What should I do?
 

corn_fest

Member
Reading large PDFs in Preview is completely broken as of Mountain Lion, at least in HiDPI mode. It stores random pages in memory and then flickers to them for a split second when changing pages, or just displays graphical corruption when changing pages if you run it in windowed mode, so every page turn is painful to watch. It also completely refuses to remember single page/double page/continuous scroll preferences and chooses an arbitrary mode each time to open a file.
Pretty disappointing for someone who relies on PDF copies of all their textbooks :p
 
Hey, I have what might be a very rudimentary problem, but I haven't been able to sort it out.

I just got a new MBP with Mountain Lion. So far so good but I'm missing a very basic and much used feature from an OS or two ago. When I open Finder, it used to automatically display documents/ items by date. IE if I go to upload a photo somewhere or send an mp3 to a friend, whatever I most recently downloaded or added to my machine would display at the top. Any way to get that back in Mountain Lion?
 

The Real Abed

Perma-Junior
I swear that 1/5 times I use spotlight, it is indexing my computer. What the hell?
I notice this occasionally too, but it never affects anything. My search still works fine and it lasts a second. I say don't worry about it unless it's hindering your search?
Hey, I have what might be a very rudimentary problem, but I haven't been able to sort it out.

I just got a new MBP with Mountain Lion. So far so good but I'm missing a very basic and much used feature from an OS or two ago. When I open Finder, it used to automatically display documents/ items by date. IE if I go to upload a photo somewhere or send an mp3 to a friend, whatever I most recently downloaded or added to my machine would display at the top. Any way to get that back in Mountain Lion?
Explain. When you "open Finder"? Do you mean when you click the FInder icon with no windows open? Because you can set it to open whatever folder you want in Finder > Preferences > General.
 
Hey, I have what might be a very rudimentary problem, but I haven't been able to sort it out.

I just got a new MBP with Mountain Lion. So far so good but I'm missing a very basic and much used feature from an OS or two ago. When I open Finder, it used to automatically display documents/ items by date. IE if I go to upload a photo somewhere or send an mp3 to a friend, whatever I most recently downloaded or added to my machine would display at the top. Any way to get that back in Mountain Lion?
Are you referring to the smart searches that used to be under the "Search For" group in the sidebar? They were removed in Lion but you can recreate them: http://macs.about.com/od/LionTipsNtricks/qt/Restore-Smart-Searches-To-Os-X-Lions-Finder-Sidebar.htm or http://christianboyce.blogspot.ca/2011/08/bring-back-for-in-lion-finder-sidebar.html
 

bro1

Banned
how do I link iPhoto on my iMac to my iPad and iPhone? I would like to access the photos on my computer via my phone/pad
 
how do I link iPhoto on my iMac to my iPad and iPhone? I would like to access the photos on my computer via my phone/pad
Either sync your photos with your iPhoto library via iTunes or set up Photo Stream to auto-upload photos you add to iPhoto on your Mac.
 

Dany

Banned
Same here. I thought my computer was fucked, but maybe it's a ML bug?

I notice this occasionally too, but it never affects anything. My search still works fine and it lasts a second. I say don't worry about it unless it's hindering your search?

Well, it feels slower than Lion, thats for sure and I constantly see mds using up memory :/ I dunno, it feels like it shouldn't be happening.
 

mrkgoo

Member
What do you guys think about these hybrid SSD/HDD drives?

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00691WMJG/?tag=neogaf0e-20

My wife needs a fast drive with lots of space on her macbook pro, wondering if this is a good buy. Any negatives?

If it's no good, any suggestions on alternatives (at least 750 GB)?

I had a first gen 500gb hybrid xt. It was awesome and I loved it. Fast. List of storage.

However, I did hear it had issues an required firmware updates, but I forgot what those issues were and never experienced them myself. I upgraded to a 750gb because storage became an issue (my photo library itself is 500gb!).

I imagine seagate have been mug more aware if whatever issue they had so I asume it's fixed by now. I would get a 750 gb hybrid, but I'm close to requiring a 1TB now.
 

freshair

Member
What do you guys think about these hybrid SSD/HDD drives?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00691WMJG/?tag=neogaf0e-20

i have one right now! just bought it a week ago (500gb) and it came updated with the latest firmware, SD28.

Installs beautifully, runs fast and reduced my boot and application launch time.

--

And now I have a question for anyone who can answer, is Ninjakit the latest 'extension' (I know greasekit was its predecessor) that can run greasemonkey scripts in Safari?

Chrome is started to become a bit bloated for my liking (and I have an older 2006 macbook, so any increase in free memory is a help to me) and I'm trying to see if everything I use on there can be replicated here.
 
The constant indexing thing? Yeah, still happening.

Quit all applications except Terminal, issued the following two commands:

sudo mdutil -i off /
sudo mdutil -E /
sudo rm -Rf /var/folders/*

Reboot.

sudo mdutil -i on /

You turn off spotlight, remove the contents of private/var/folders/, and turn spotlight back on when you reboot.

fixed it for me. nothing in there of value anyway, but you can feel free to back that folder up (copy the contents) somewhere on the drive to make yourself feel more comfortable.
 
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