Denton
Member
That's funny, I thorougly enjoyed that one, loved how atmospheric it was. Did it on first try, it wasn't particularly difficult.
Mafia The Old Country: GAF Impressions Thread
Forsete
Member
Well I hated it.
My character was severely tortured so I had to dump basically everything not to be slow as a snail.
TheDarkPhantom
Gold Member
My copy arrived last night:
Only played the first few missions but already in love. Instantly hooked by it's characters/narrative, laser focused on it's story and moving at it's own pace, creating a sense of time and place, this is Mafia. Looks absolutely gorgeous on my Pro and runs silky smooth in Performance Mode. Special mention of the HDR, it's amazing how many games just can't get this right but it's near perfect here
Only played the first few missions but already in love. Instantly hooked by it's characters/narrative, laser focused on it's story and moving at it's own pace, creating a sense of time and place, this is Mafia. Looks absolutely gorgeous on my Pro and runs silky smooth in Performance Mode. Special mention of the HDR, it's amazing how many games just can't get this right but it's near perfect here
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Justin9mm
Member
So you're saying that later on even when you have weapons, there are stealth sections where you can't use them and immediately fail the mission if seen? We are talking about 'forced' stealth so just making sure that's what you mean. If so, that's terrible game design.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Still digesting after finishing yesterday, but man. It really felt like I was playing an amazing tv series, like with each chapter an episode. What a powerful and emotional and impressive fucking experience. I can't wait to come back to it to clean up trophies and just to play through it again. It's definitely the easiest replayable Mafia game based on writing and story alone.
Still loved the gunplay. I love the way H13 does their guns, their sound, the hit reactions..they do their own thing and I fucking love it.
Could sneak to #1 this year but we'll see. Still more to come.
Still loved the gunplay. I love the way H13 does their guns, their sound, the hit reactions..they do their own thing and I fucking love it.
Could sneak to #1 this year but we'll see. Still more to come.
Humdinger
Gold Member
I'm not sure about that. The stealth sections seem to come in several different varieties.
One is the pure, no-weapon "forced stealth" you describe - no weapons available, and you fail if detected. I just completed one of those in Ch. 7. I had to sneak through a villa and take a compromising photo of someone. It was a short interlude in a larger mission. It took about 3 minutes; it was very easy. Those segments are rare. There may have been one earlier in the game, but I can't be sure. Lack of weapons made sense in context - you wouldn't want to hurt anyone in the situation.
The second type is stealth sections where you have one weapon available - a knife - but no guns. It's "forced stealth" in the sense that if you are detected, you fail. But you do have access to one weapon, so I'm not sure whether you would consider it "forced stealth" by your definition. The knife allows quicker behind-the-back takedowns (vs. choking), and some knives can be thrown from a distance, so it's part of stealth. It also allows you to crack into lockboxes you find along the way. I remember one of those sequences in the previous chapter, and I believe there were a couple of them earlier in the game.
The third type would be when I'm asked to infiltrate a camp or a compound. I'm instructed to sneak in and try to avoid detection, but I have weapons. Inevitably, I am detected at some point. Then the shooting begins. That would not be "forced stealth" but rather "stealth until you can't stealth no mo." These are somewhat common and usually involve extended encounters.
As others have said, all of the stealth in this game is easy. I don't think I've been caught once, and I'm not exactly Solid Snake. I would be the first to complain if the stealth was frustrating or the "trial-and-error" variety, but it isn't like that. You just sneak up behind some dumb guards, throttle them, throw them in a handy nearby crate, and keep moving. Occasionally you use bottles and such to distract them. It's pretty basic and easy.
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semiconscious
Member
is that really real? if so, much respect to hangar 13!...I like this new EULA, very brief.
So I am after finishing it.I am tempted to give it 10/10 but gameplay is a bit dated and some of it repetitive . But my lord the story , the immersion and the beauty of the game . Looked unreal on my 5080/9800 XD3 . Honestly one best video game stories i've ever played . I stayed up too late last night to finish it .Couldn't wait see what happened next . I think it's time re watch the Godfather …
Anyone praying for DLC ?
I am still thinking about the ending !
Anyone praying for DLC ?
I am still thinking about the ending !
Paasei
Member
Well, I managed to get some gametime into this yesterday. It's incredibly good looking and Enzo just learned the ropes of the business. Constantly stopping during traveltime to see if there are collectibles. I think I needen't worry about that so early in. Stopped playing as soon as I hit chapter 4. Playing it in Sicilian cause why not? Good writing and so far very likeable (read believable) characters.
Gameplay is very basic. Everything you'd expect from an action/adventure game is in here. Doesn't reinvent the wheel anywhere so far, but also no hassle in learning unnecessary mechanics. Minor upgrades, (cover)shooting and simple stealth (proper description by
Humdinger
).
I'm having a good time with it and can't wait to play more once I'm done with work for today.
Gameplay is very basic. Everything you'd expect from an action/adventure game is in here. Doesn't reinvent the wheel anywhere so far, but also no hassle in learning unnecessary mechanics. Minor upgrades, (cover)shooting and simple stealth (proper description by
Humdinger
). I'm having a good time with it and can't wait to play more once I'm done with work for today.
I didn't . I regret it now . If i replay will play on hard .
Certinty
Member
It's not even hard in the slightest.
If anything, I recommend it because I can't imagine how easy the normal and easy difficulties are if this is considered 'hard'.
TheDarkPhantom
Gold Member
I am, not hard at all and I'm not using that lame "instinct" button, find it immersion breaking in a game like this.
Humdinger
Gold Member
Yes, DLC would be great. They've had DLC for all previous Mafia games, iirc, so I hope they put some out for this game as well. From what I read, they don't currently have any DLC in development - all hands on deck to get the main game out the door - but they are "listening to fans" about what sort of DLC they would like.
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Braag
Member
It is lol
Buy it .
CliffBronger
Member
I just finished Mafia 1 - Definitive Edition as i needed some more mafia after finishing old country.
It's actually shorter than old country as i had it done in just under 10 hours (medium setting)
First time playing it BTW.
It's actually shorter than old country as i had it done in just under 10 hours (medium setting)
First time playing it BTW.
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Emedan
Member
OG Mafia 1 is double the length in actuality due to having to re-do the race 459 times.
GudOlRub
Member
Finished it, just like Mafia 3 the story was very predictable but enjoyable, acting was top notch just like 2, 3 and Remake, gameplay was good enough for this type of game.
The Tino boss fight fucking sucked though.
All in all I just love me more Mafia games. Don't care what people say about Hangar 13 to me they're really good at what they've been doing with the franchise, learned from 3, improved with Remake and followed up with another solid entry with this one. I'd absolutely adore if they kept pumping out games like this every couple years.
50$ for a linear, 8-10 hour game like this somehow feels way more worth it than spending 70 or 80$ on a bloated open world shovelware from Ubisoft or the likes.
The Tino boss fight fucking sucked though.
All in all I just love me more Mafia games. Don't care what people say about Hangar 13 to me they're really good at what they've been doing with the franchise, learned from 3, improved with Remake and followed up with another solid entry with this one. I'd absolutely adore if they kept pumping out games like this every couple years.
50$ for a linear, 8-10 hour game like this somehow feels way more worth it than spending 70 or 80$ on a bloated open world shovelware from Ubisoft or the likes.
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Chuck Berry
Gold Member
I finished it on hard. Wasn't too bad whatsoever.
SunnySideGuy
Member
Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
The knife fights in this look like the lychan fights in the Order 1886.
Actually the whole game sounds like the Order 1886, it looks beautiful but with very little depth.
Actually the whole game sounds like the Order 1886, it looks beautiful but with very little depth.
The_Observer
Member
I think I'll have the urge too, and I wanted to replay ig one day anyway.
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
imo that's what's great about it. I don't want depth in every game. This is a streamlined great linear game. Well worth the price. Feels like a palate cleanser to me.
LordCBH
Member
I remember struggling with it on PS2 back in the day, so I'll buy another PS2 to throw out the window again in Mafia OG's honor.
Humdinger
Gold Member
Yeah, if you're looking for complex mechanics, tons of weapons and upgrades, intricate skill trees, combos, inventory management, plenty of side-quests, etc., then this game will not be for you.
Old Country keeps things simple. I appreciate that. So many modern games complicate things to the point where they feel like a chore to play. I like this approach better.
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Luipadre
Member
Finished it just under 15 hours. Loved every minute of it. Its not for everyone, but if you liked the old mafia games or linear narrative heavy games, its a must play. Really liked the characters in this one. Graphics was amazing on PC, cutscenes, characters, VA, all really good. I only had 1 little bug in my 15 hour playthrough, 1 animation bug in the very distance. For me it was super polished and doesnt felt like a cheaper AA title at all. I saw the steam numbers were above 30k so i think it sold decently especially for a lower budget title. More Mafia games like this please
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Jayjayhd34
Gold Member
Yep there's one right at end but makes sense that one etleast the others are just annoying.
ThisIsMyDog
Member
Finished the story in 16.6 hours on medium difficulty, so I didn't die too often. Solid story, gameplay, and visuals – 8/10. If you enjoyed the previous Mafia games (especially Mafia Definitive Edition, so remake of first one), then even at today's price it's a good buy. Next year at some promo for 30$ it's going to be no brainer.
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Humdinger
Gold Member
I started on Performance then switched to Quality later on. Honestly, I couldn't tell the difference. Both of them looked good and ran smoothly.
However, I am not as sensitive to graphical and performance nuances as other people, so ymmv.
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Mattdaddy
Gold Member
Just finished it, I really loved it.
Setting, Story, Characters all great. Gameplay was totally fine for a Mafia game, standard 3rd person cover shooter with meaty shotguns.
The ending actually had me pretty invested in what was going to happen to everyone.
Id say if you are a fan of Mafia 1/2, this is an easy must buy. Its the same formula just enhanced.
You can mow through it in a weekend easy.
Setting, Story, Characters all great. Gameplay was totally fine for a Mafia game, standard 3rd person cover shooter with meaty shotguns.
The ending actually had me pretty invested in what was going to happen to everyone.
Id say if you are a fan of Mafia 1/2, this is an easy must buy. Its the same formula just enhanced.
You can mow through it in a weekend easy.
Kenneth Haight
Gold Member
I agree with both these statements. It's nice to see something more streamline. Definitely going to pick this up once it drops in price a little. Game looks drop dead gorgeous at times.
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Bry0
Member
Agreed. Make this like western yakuza (with a more relaxed release cadence). Explore different time periods and groups (Irish mob? Russian mob?). There is a lot they can do if this is actually profitable.
Currently only in chapter 3, yeah it's definitely a linear story based experience but I'm enjoying the slow burn and the world building. I love a good period piece.
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Roufianos
Member
Ordered aha
Quality 40 fps vysnc on. UE5 typical stutter are less annoying there. When it's 60 fps stutters are more present and more apparent. But if you can digest the UE5 fps problems I guess you can play it at 60 fps.
It's definitely inspired heavily by ND games. Especially the final act.
hououinkyouma00
Member
My PS5 says I'm 40% through. I haven't really had a ton of time to play but I like it a lot.
I would say gunplay is the weakest part, but for me personally everything else makes up for it. I'm a sucker for this sort of stuff though and the original and Mafia 2 were some of my favorites (we don't talk about that POS 3 in this house).
I would say gunplay is the weakest part, but for me personally everything else makes up for it. I'm a sucker for this sort of stuff though and the original and Mafia 2 were some of my favorites (we don't talk about that POS 3 in this house).
Braag
Member
Finished it today and enjoyed it a lot. It's very much in the same spirit as Mafia 1 and 2. If you told me that same team was responsible for this, I would believe you.
Mob stories are always predictable, whether it's a movie or a game, they very often have similar story beats of love and betrayal.
It's all about how well the story is told and acted, and The Old Country nails it in that regard.
Mob stories are always predictable, whether it's a movie or a game, they very often have similar story beats of love and betrayal.
It's all about how well the story is told and acted, and The Old Country nails it in that regard.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
I haven't seen so many positive impressions of a game here in quite a bit. Expedition 33 might be the other.
Humdinger
Gold Member
Into Chapter 11 now. I'm making my way through a couple of chapters a day.
Thanks to everyone for not spoiling the story. I have an inkling of where things are headed - it was evident from early on - but I don't know how it'll play out.
Yeah, it's been nice to see. I figured we would have a very mixed reception, same as with the professional reviewers, but instead it seems like most (80%?) in the thread have been enjoying it. To be fair, I'm sure part of that is selection bias. People enjoying the game were willing to plunk $50 for it, and presumably that's because they like Mafia games or these sorts of games in general, and most of them knew, more or less, what they were getting into. But you have that same sort of selection bias with every new game (except the ones given away Day 1 on GP).
Anyhow, I'm still enjoying it. They do a good job of mixing up the action, giving you a variety of scenarios, none of which overstay their welcome.
It makes me want to give Mafia III another try. I gave up on that game after a couple of hours because it felt way too heavy on the exposition, I didn't like the protagonist much, and the action felt ... scattered. But if this is the same team, then maybe there was a better game underneath there than I realized. Maybe I just didn't stick with it long enough.
Thanks to everyone for not spoiling the story. I have an inkling of where things are headed - it was evident from early on - but I don't know how it'll play out.
Yeah, it's been nice to see. I figured we would have a very mixed reception, same as with the professional reviewers, but instead it seems like most (80%?) in the thread have been enjoying it. To be fair, I'm sure part of that is selection bias. People enjoying the game were willing to plunk $50 for it, and presumably that's because they like Mafia games or these sorts of games in general, and most of them knew, more or less, what they were getting into. But you have that same sort of selection bias with every new game (except the ones given away Day 1 on GP).
Anyhow, I'm still enjoying it. They do a good job of mixing up the action, giving you a variety of scenarios, none of which overstay their welcome.
It makes me want to give Mafia III another try. I gave up on that game after a couple of hours because it felt way too heavy on the exposition, I didn't like the protagonist much, and the action felt ... scattered. But if this is the same team, then maybe there was a better game underneath there than I realized. Maybe I just didn't stick with it long enough.
Hero_Select
Member
No Spoilers from me but I just finished the game. I dont know if I'd recommend it for everybody but I (for the most part) enjoyed the story and characters - the gameplay is very one note however.
I appreciate the linear storytelling, there's practically zero filler and it's short enough to not outstay its welcome but I do have quite a bit of issues with how the story pregresses - it's very fast paced with a lot of time skips and doesnt really let you settle before you're thrown at another stealth section that always turns into a gunfight.
I want to give it a 7/10 but I think this story and how it's told isnt as good as Mafia 1/2 so ultimately I give it a 6 I guess.
I appreciate the linear storytelling, there's practically zero filler and it's short enough to not outstay its welcome but I do have quite a bit of issues with how the story pregresses - it's very fast paced with a lot of time skips and doesnt really let you settle before you're thrown at another stealth section that always turns into a gunfight.
I want to give it a 7/10 but I think this story and how it's told isnt as good as Mafia 1/2 so ultimately I give it a 6 I guess.
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NeverYouMind
Member
I do not think so. The original games knew how to cinematically frame a scene. This comes off like a serialized show in comparison. The voice acting is great but the presentation is mediocre. The lack of memorable music really brings down the experience.
Mafia 2 had much better gameplay in every department and Mafia 1 had better driving. When I found out it was linear I was thinking that maybe they improved gameplay from Mafia III but they somehow made it worse. I was not expecting something as tight as Max Payne but I think it is embarrassing that I can think of PS1/N64 shooters with better gameplay. I hope Hangar 13 ups their game or another studio takes over the series.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Haven't been able to stop thinking about it since I finished. What an ending man..