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Magic: the Gathering |OT11| Amonkhet - Have you ever had decks with a Pharaoh?
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Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I used to really piss people off with Always Watching + Dragonlord Ojutai
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Don't fuck up.
Always good advice.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
wow, subtitling the Chinese players who aren't even hard to understand
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I think they're mostly Chinese - the guy they were talking about getting in was Korean. I guess I'm the racist.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Looks fine to me tbh
Imperfected
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I mean, there's a decent chance this Standard still hasn't really been "solved" yet. It's not like it was very long ago when everyone was thinking Mardu Vehicles/Mardu Gideons was still going to be The Thing. (In fact, a whole lot of people showed up to this event thinking that.)
That said, it probably will end up being shitty even once it's finally bolted down.
It looks decently varied right now. Marvel will probably end up dominating the next few months, but it doesn't look too bad.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
You can Dispossess Marvel now, though. Granted, that's narrow and color locked, but its an option.
Infinite Stars
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I think as long as they keep it to once a year rotations The Summer Standards are going to remain iffy. It's not like there's any incentive to run Gideon of the Trials when Ally is running around, same goes generally for decks that want a Nissa: They're not running VF/Steward unless they have some specific need when Nissa VoZ is stupid strong
Yeah, Disposses and Lost Legacy give black decks an out for all the degenerate cards.
Chandra Flamecaller is my most-hated 6 mana planeswalker in, uh ... Duels
any chance Bolas gets a planeswalker/permanent-killing minus ability? Then they could also kill off the least popular Gatewatch member in the story (until they bring them back, anyway) - who would that be, anyway?
any chance Bolas gets a planeswalker/permanent-killing minus ability? Then they could also kill off the least popular Gatewatch member in the story (until they bring them back, anyway) - who would that be, anyway?
Imperfected
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I think Gideon's really put himself out there as the Guy Who Gets Killed.
Wulfric
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http://sheppard-arts.blogspot.com/2017/05/what-does-magic-art-director-do.html
I know it's a bad time with the Pro Tour and all, but Cynthia Sheppard just posted a really cool behind-the-scenes look at Magic art direction. She's directing Ixalan this fall, and was responsible for the aether pipes and furry tiger dragon on Kaladesh.
Other things:
- 3 out of 4 of the current art directors formerly worked on cards (Sheppard, Yanner, Jarvis)
- The concept push is three weeks total
- 578 pieces commissioned in 2016
- Paintings are sometimes still mailed to WotC
I know it's a bad time with the Pro Tour and all, but Cynthia Sheppard just posted a really cool behind-the-scenes look at Magic art direction. She's directing Ixalan this fall, and was responsible for the aether pipes and furry tiger dragon on Kaladesh.
Other things:
- 3 out of 4 of the current art directors formerly worked on cards (Sheppard, Yanner, Jarvis)
- The concept push is three weeks total
- 578 pieces commissioned in 2016
- Paintings are sometimes still mailed to WotC
There's the trope where the most indestructible member gets killed.
SigmasonicX
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I saw that earlier, it was pretty interesting.
I'm pleased
SigmasonicX
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Huh, Jason forgot to remove an Ulamog when he used Lost Legacy and the judges allowed Gerard to keep it. And he can potentially lose to it now.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I mean, he just lost to it. Neither of them were likely to Top 8 though.
It's also perfectly possible it was just a backfired play and not a punt because he didn't think Fabiano would ever be able to hardcast Ulamog.
Imperfected
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That's got to be pretty high up there in terms of "gameplay errors that absolutely should cost you the game".
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Not necessarily. He could have assumed he'd win by the time Fabiano got to Ulamog and Lost Legacy has relevant non-Surgical Extraction text (e.g. exiling that Ulamog could let Fabiano draw a card)
Joe Molotov
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Anyone can miss Ulamog, all tucked away down there.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
continuing to pretend this is a legit tournament while Hagon explains why a guy only refused to ID to mess with the team bullshit
this shit is not a team sport ffs
this shit is not a team sport ffs
Imperfected
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I mean more that it's not one of those gameplay errors where you didn't understand some bizarre interaction between effects on the stack that resulted in a completely unintuitive outcome. It was a guy just straight-up screwing himself, so I don't have the same sympathy.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I'm just saying it could have been intentional.
If Fabiano's hand is land land land Ulamog and your board state is shaky, perhaps you leave Ulamog in because you don't want him to draw his way into answers for your zombies.
Imperfected
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It's possible. The Marvel definitely creates some weird/dumb value judgments like that, as evidenced by all the Marvel players this weekend who didn't seem to understand that keeping a hand with multiple Ulamogs in it is actually worse than just mulling to fewer cards against everything but discard.
Imperfected
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I mean, that's the goal of a combo deck, at the very least. The more potential interaction it has, the less likely someone is going to want to play it.
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I was wrong. It's 2 Mono B Zombies, 1 BW Zombies, 4 Marvel, 1 GB Energy.
There are more Chandra, Flamecaller than Gideons in the top 8 lolololol
I was wrong. It's 2 Mono B Zombies, 1 BW Zombies, 4 Marvel, 1 GB Energy.
There are more Chandra, Flamecaller than Gideons in the top 8 lolololol
Imperfected
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A combo deck that's interactive would, I suppose, be a combo that's about building (non-infinite) board state. You could argue that's what Temur Marvel is: it's a deck built around a general combo that generates an oppressive (but possible to interact with) board state, but still ultimately has the win condition of establishing a superior board presence, not going infinite/triggering an alternate win-con/etc.
So, I guess an "interactive combo" deck is basically just Midrange?
charlequin
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I think this is a pretty decent result all-told. The boogieman deck left alone by the last banning wave turned out to be a bust in an open meta (as expected), the most dominant deck is one that could not have plausibly been banned before now and which we don't yet know if it can be hated out, there's some color diversity, and enough decks that are at least decent that people can have a little flexibility playing this season.
If there's a big disappointment, it's that the Izzet Control lists didn't go anywhere. I haven't gotten to watch the matches or really dig into matchups much, is this a problem of the meta makeup or is the deck just not good enough?
An interactive combo is one that has to build board state but doesn't have to win through combat math, basically.
Imperfected
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Temur Marvel does what Mardon't.
Edit: Long version is that while Temur Marvel couldn't really go off fast enough to stop Cat from comboing out, it apparently can get up to speed fast enough to deal with Mardu, so now that Cat's out of the equation and there's some new artifact hate in circulation, it's simply the better-positioned deck. That's my take, anyway.
This is what I was picturing in my head and something I would like them to try and explore more.
I know it's just something fundamentally sewn into the game rules, but it's kinda weird to me that "interactivity" in the game is basically just blowing up each other's creatures (for the most part). Planeswalkers was a move into a different design space and I guess I would like to see more (though I understand that's not something you can really do constantly lest you completely upend the game).
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