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Magic: the Gathering |OT13| Ixalan - Port to Sideboard
- Thread starter SigmasonicX
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Wait... PW can't be Commanders with the Legendary change?
Seriously?
Why would they? They're no different than other noncreature legendary permanents.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Thank the theros Gods, would be terrible imo and result in Dack Fayden being banned.Wait... PW can't be Commanders with the Legendary change?
Seriously?
LMAO I was debating whether to include a price range. It's Liliana Tribal deck as in I have 56, and some I'm considering cards depicting Lililana or mentioning her in the flavour text or being story related to her.
Meaning I have at best 10 spots left over and Endless Ranks is probably gonna eat some of that.
Simply Sarah
Member
Then play Abandon Hope. I get the feeling that's going to describe what you want to do in a lot of games.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I have doomsday Zur when I just wanna win.
Why wouldn't you want the face characters of the game to headline decks in one of the biggest casual formats there is? Plus they'd be fun.
Having them act as Commanders would definitely require changes to the banned list. Probably a few of them would end up banned easy. I'd be fine with it.
Imperfected
Member
Yeah, people love to swing on PWs because it's almost always more politically expedient than going to the face.
About the only time I can ever get someone to not bash a Karn in the face is if I promise to make him suicide for the sake of removing a bigger threat from the table.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
...legendary
Code:
1 Liliana, Heretical Healer
//Lands
1 Ancient Tomb
1 Barren Moor
1 Blighted Fen
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Buried Ruin
1 Cabal Coffers
1 Desert of the Glorified
1 Dunes of the Dead
1 Evolving Wilds
1 Geier Reach Sanitarium
1 Ifnir Deadlands
1 Myriad Landscape
1 Petrified Field
1 Scavenger Grounds
1 Sea Gate Wreckage
1 Spawning Pool
1 Strip Mine
12 Swamp
1 Thespian's Stage
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 Vesuva
1 Volrath's Stronghold
1 Westvale Abbey
//Artifacts
1 Charcoal Diamond
1 Expedition Map
1 Helvault
1 Jet Medallion
1 Nevinyrral's Disk
1 Oblivion Stone
1 Sol Ring
1 The Chain Veil
//Enchantments
1 Brink of Disaster
1 Demonic Pact
1 Liliana's Caress
1 Liliana's Mastery
1 Oath of Liliana
1 Phyrexian Arena
1 Tainted Remedy
1 Triumph of Cruelty
1 Waste Not
//Instants
1 Cruel Revival
1 Dark Dabbling
1 Flesh to Dust
1 Snuff Out
1 Ulcerate
1 Undying Evil
1 Unholy Hunger
//Sorceries
1 Cemetery Recruitment
1 Damnation
1 Dark Petition
1 Dark Salvation
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Diabolic Tutor
1 Disentomb
1 Dread Summons
1 Duress
1 Endless Obedience
1 Famine
1 Killing Wave
1 Liliana's Defeat
1 Liliana's Indignation
1 Liliana's Influence
1 Macabre Waltz
1 Mind Rot
1 Mutilate
1 Necromantic Summons
1 Reave Soul
1 Rise from the Grave
1 Rise of the Dark Realms
1 Yawgmoth's Will
//Planeswalkers
1 Liliana of the Dark Realms
1 Liliana of the Veil
1 Liliana Vess
1 Liliana, Death Wielder
1 Liliana, Death's Majesty
1 Liliana, the Last Hope
//Creatures
1 Baleful Force
1 Desiccated Naga
1 Gravecrawler
1 Kothophed, Soul Hoarder
1 Liliana's Elite
1 Liliana's Reaver
1 Liliana's Shade
1 Liliana's Specter
1 Razaketh, the Foulblooded
1 Rottenheart Ghoul
1 Undead Servant
1 Veilborn Ghoul
Joe Molotov
Member
I know you're going for flavor, but Undead Servant is really bad, haha.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I'm going to have to make it worse because I just saw
which is a black wind drake that CIPT but does symbolize the Raven Man Urza darn it what do I take out now.
Still couldn't come up with a better swamp than this
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Has to be lili related.
Imperfected
Member
If it's for casual play you can probably convince people to let you play Griselbrand in the 99 if you tell them it's a Liliana Tribal Deck.
I mean, it's the least handicap they could spot you.
I mean, it's the least handicap they could spot you.
Giant Panda
Member
Why were there no spoilers today?
SigmasonicX
Member
These aren't website spoilers, but ones unlocked by that geocache event. Normal spoilers aren't until next week.
Origins is.
slowrolling it
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
nothing in this land connects visually to liliana. It's from Dominaria (orig 7th ed) but not noticeably.
StrangeRoboMemory
Member
Hey all, I want to make a Shu Yun EDH deck with heavy kung fu flavor. I've got the Tarkir Prowess cards like Montastery Swiftspear, Jeskai Elder, etc., some simple spells like Distortion Strike, Brute Force, Slip Through Space, Jeskai Ascendancy, and my beloved Narset planeswalker. Anything I can do to give this deck a few wrinkles? Are there any cards out there that care about Monks? Anything cool that would fit the theme but isn't in the obvious places (Tarkir, Kamigawa)?
shrapnelmagnet
Member
lol, I love "bad" creatures for fun in EDH. Looks hilair
I don't have many "I want to go back" sets, because I have only been playing since 2013, so pure nostalgia is relatively low. However, I love basic land arts and the one Plane I want to revisit badly is Alara. I want those basic lands reprinted really badly lol. The white sand Plains, the celestial Island, that Swamp, all of them. They are pretty pricey if you want to just order them straight-up, but I have been able to source a few.
charlequin
Banned
Chippy's Esper basics have consistently been some of my faves since the day they were printed and it is indeed a shame that they've been seen so rarely. The two islands are reprinted in DD: Elspeth v Tezzeret but the Plains and Swamp have never shown up elsewhere. (And given the purposes lands tend to serve in reprint sets they tend to be pretty unlikely inclusions in most of them.)
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
What started as a draft for an Ayli Curses deck has somehow devolved into a deck trying to make a billion of mana with serra's sanctum and cast humongoues X spells.
Back to the drawing board we go.
Back to the drawing board we go.
SigmasonicX
Member
Kind of interesting. Pirates and dinosaurs were deliberately made the three-color tribes of the set so they can have more creatures, precisely because they've been historically unrepresented.
No shard theme
They needed more cards to be established
No shard theme
They needed more cards to be established
shrapnelmagnet
Member
For sure, not to mention that there are so many to choose from when putting the supplemental products together.
Does anyone know a way to prevent a Player from paying a Cumulative Upkeep cost? One that isn't a counter or controlling the Player's turn? I can't seem to come up with a way that allows the triggered ability to resolve without being paid... This assumes they have the resources to pay it, but somehow are prevented from doing so.
GoutPatrol
Forgotten in his cell
My friends and I recently built Shards of Alara sealed decks out of their intro packs and I was able to get a bunch of the Chippy lands, so I am able to use them in any 2-3 color deck.
ThLunarian
Member
Mana Short could pull this off.
Or Vampire Hexmage could reset the cumulative upkeep, which might be just as effective depending on the card.
But really, you're better off just removing the permanent yourself.
shrapnelmagnet
Member
Yeah... It's not a mana cost, though. I do love Mana Short, though haha
Trying to see if there is a way to add mana to the cost somehow. Or to not allow them to interact with the card, like a Pithing Needle thing. Or take control of the ability.
ThLunarian
Member
Yeah... It's not a mana cost, though. I do love Mana Short, though haha
Trying to see if there is a way to add mana to the cost somehow. Or to not allow them to interact with the card, like a Pithing Needle thing. Or take control of the ability.
Eon Hub. All players skip their upkeep steps.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=51160
If the payment is life, then I guess you could Donate a Platinum Emperion to them or something, but that seems to be jumping through too many hoops
Scapeshift. It's iconic enough to see a reprint and it's NEVER been reprinted for some random reason.
shrapnelmagnet
Member
Thought Lash. Assuming they have control of one, I obviously need them not to pay so the library is exiled 😬
I was hoping a counterspell would do it, but because it stops the whole triggered ability, it's not "not paid", it's just not even charged.
I was hoping a counterspell would do it, but because it stops the whole triggered ability, it's not "not paid", it's just not even charged.
Yeah, I don't think there's any way to force them to not pay except mindslaving them.
shrapnelmagnet
Member
Slowly coming to the same conclusion. Hmm, well, I think I will just try it anyway and see how the games play out. Seems funny to have in play. I wish Paradox Haze hit everyone 🙃
Proliferate is probably reasonable if it is incidental somehow.
Plansewalker Deck Cards
Most of the other stuff is what leaked last week
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articl...ker-decks-packaging-and-fnm-tokens-2017-09-01
Most of the other stuff is what leaked last week
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articl...ker-decks-packaging-and-fnm-tokens-2017-09-01
Imperfected
Member
I like those, they're more in the "1-2 CMC too high in cost but otherwise fine" camp of intro deck PWs than the "LOL 7 CMC Nissa who just picks her nose" camp.
Jace to become 5C confirmed
Jace is the new Urza confirmed
Urza confirmed green
#freeSFM
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Winning the control mirror by the opponent decking, feels good.
If you animate a chain veil you could go infinite with that jace.
If you animate a chain veil you could go infinite with that jace.
SigmasonicX
Member
Oh, I see a minotaur on one of the booster packs. Ulgothra confirmed!
Royal_Flush
Member
That Jace doesn't seem too bad, right? Probably won't see play regardless, but I've seen worse planeswalkers.
Huatli, though...
Huatli, though...