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Magic: the Gathering |OT13| Ixalan - Port to Sideboard
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Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I wonder if Wizard realises they are terrible at realising any meaning for the PW symbol they've been pushing as the MTG icon for years.
Ah I was wondering how Gaby and amaz came into contact to costream together yesterday for 2 or 3 drafts. It was pretty funny and I'm continually impressed how good amaz actually is, not just playing and drafting well but he also knows all the limited cards.
A reasonable explanation.
Simply Sarah
Member
Well, by itself Emma being a trans woman doesn't really say much one way or another about if trans people make up a greater percentage of (male/female/NB/all) Magic players than they do the general population.
As for the overall question, I was considering writing a large statement about statistics and demographics and expected values but it was getting out of hand so the tl;dr is basically:
As for not deadnaming her, I feel that most of the more well known members of the competitive community aren't interested in pulling that crap. And any that aren't stopped by their own morals are likely stopped by realizing that doing that would almost certainly turn out badly for them.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Good point, Ali Antrazi got hit pretty hard when he harassed a trans EDH player at an SCG event a while ago.
Amaz is an avid MTGO player, he's exactly the person they should invite for this stuff. Would you have smhd if they invited Kibler instead?
The actual name of Magic Digital Next. Past that we dont know much. Some assume it is a Dules replacement. Others hope it is a MTGO replacment. It will probably end up somewhere in the middle.
It's not a full smh. I understand they need people outside the sphere to get more eyes on it. They're far behind in the digital space and need street cred.
Hopes for Arena
- Sealed and actual multiplayer drafts
- Full sets and rules engine. If they need to start it with just the current (post rotation) standard that is fine and will allow them to keep MTGO going with anything older than Kaladesh.
- Some sort of redemption in physical packs for in game credit
- Sealed and actual multiplayer drafts
- Full sets and rules engine. If they need to start it with just the current (post rotation) standard that is fine and will allow them to keep MTGO going with anything older than Kaladesh.
- Some sort of redemption in physical packs for in game credit
Magic battles with high stakes. Two enter, only one leaves. The loser pays with their life. I believe the concept originates from an episode of the the popular animation show Yu-Gi-Oh!
To be clear, this is one of the products under the Magic Digital Next umbrella.
This is about all I need to give it a shot.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Yeah Zero chance I'm building an online and offline collection w/o this, also makes the average value of a pack go up. If there's anything I've liked about this mess of a period in standard is that I was able to play a highly competitive deck for less than 100 over an extended period of time.
digital cards
GregLombardi
Member
Hold on to your digital butts
FreedomFrisbee
Member
If chalice is reprinted at rare (which is more likely than not) its price gets instantly halved. Paper value anyways.
Also, people keep forgetting that we have reports of what Arena is from internal alpha testers. It's not really a big mystery.
I missed this. What's leaked so far?
Chalice of the Void, easily.
GregLombardi
Member
I would say there are still some pretty big questions
FreedomFrisbee
Member
Full rules engine, better presentation. Screenshots have actually been released, easily googlable. We dont know card selection, formats, or if there will be pack redemption.
It will at least be on PC and mobile. Duels was on Xbox so I assume it will at least be there.
After some googling I've got nothing, where are you seeing this?
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
with the abolishment of the PW rule, Origins PW tribal decks were super buffed in EDH. time to build Liliana Tribal. I'm only missing the latest 3 Lili's.
can all be out on the battlefield at once now. It's gonna be wait or it...
FreedomFrisbee
Member
They also showed footage at an event, said footage was not released.
Infinite Stars
Member
Aether Vial/Noble Hierarch
I think it's damn near unlikely that Vial doesn't get reprinted in either Iconic/25. While not near Horizon Canopy levels of dumb, the deck. Same goes for Hierarch.
Modern Merfolk cards. Cursecatcher has been a $10 bill for like a decade now, will probably be a $2 card this time next year
Vial's good, I play Hierarch too often to be able to go without it lol
charlequin
Banned
For a variety of reasons trans women are represented at a larger rate in a lot of things that would be called "nerd hobbies" than the general population. If you look at programmers or game designers there's a similar thing. I can't pull stats for this but I would wager it's a higher proportion based on total percentage of trans women in the community vs. overall population, not just as a share of women.
Then in Magic specifically you have the fact that WotC is a notably pro-diversity, pro-inclusion company and that two trans women work in R&D to help make it a more appealing hobby.
Magic still has a lot of really bad behavior in the community, but I do think this along with an increasing number of prominent women in general, etc. does speak to some real improvements over the last few years.
I mean, it definitely is, but given the environment they're dealing with and the semi-unhinged responses some of the Creative team members get it's also probably a good call.
The scope of which cards will be included is still up in the air but we do actually know it has a full Magic rules engine, not just a subset like Duals.
Also this hasn't been announced formally yet but we can still say with certainty that it's going to have a collectable, F2P business model rather than a paper-parallel one like MTGO does.
In terms of top-value reprintable cards past those two, I'd consider Flusterstorm, Chalice, Crucible, Doubling Season, Scapeshift, Goryo's Vengeance, Aether Vial, Sliver Legion, Through the Breach, Captain Sisay, Leovold, and Ugin as all being cards with a high chance of reprint in the next year. There's also some wacky stuff that probably not al lot of people are holding but that could easily tank, like Zodiac Dragon or Goblin Settler.
Out of all those, I think Port and Canopy are two of the cards in the most danger of a big value drop, along with Flusterstorm and Chalice. (Speaking of which, fuck, I really need to move my Chalice.)
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Arena better be available for PS4 (would also be nice on Switch). Honestly shameful a company like Wizards couldn't get a single digital Magic product out on the PS4.
Theres really no way Arena can be as mismanaged as Duels was.
Theres really no way Arena can be as mismanaged as Duels was.
They have said no. (They are correct to do so.)
keeblerdrow
Member
Engineered explosives seems like it's a bubble waiting for a burst at this point. A reprint would make that a bad card to be holding.
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charlequin
Banned
Well Duels was managed by the known-to-be-incapable old digital team with an external developer and a shoestring budget, while Arena is managed with a huge budget by a guy who's actually run a game studio before, so probably not, yeah.
Yeah I realized I missed that one after I made my post. Definite huge downside potential.
Mishra's Bauble.
Not as big as those two, but Avacyn, Angel of Hope. Card has had limited printings and has a decent price from commander demand, but is likely to see a reprint in iconic masters given the focus on angels.
At $25 - $30 most places. For reference, Grislebrand, who has seen a number of additional printings and comes from the same set at the same rarity with arguably more constructed playability, is $8.
I would also consider selling Consecrated Sphinx. At $27, it's likely to drop if a reprint shows up and it's already started turning down as more and more masterpiece versions make their way out.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Alright I need some help, you have to pick 10 cards to run in a monoblack EDH deck unrelated to Liliana.
Black Market
Blood Funnel
Blood Reckoning
Call to the Grave
Contamination
Deadly Designs
Death Pits of Rath
Endless Ranks of the Dead
Endless Whispers (Run no creatures)
Enslave
Forsaken Wastes
Grave Betrayal
It's not competitive in the least, but Head Games is always a hilarious/fun include to me. Has some political value too.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I also need a way to get rid of a demonic pact.
man I did not know many of these cards and there are some great suggesstions among them.
that's hilarious.It's not competitive in the least, but Head Games is always a hilarious/fun include to me. Has some political value too.
Joe Molotov
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Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I knew I was missing a card depicting Liliana and I might run Helvault in place of Griselbrand
Unsure with which basic to run this one does scream Liliana the most for me.
Simply Sarah
Member
Don't worry, I've got your back!
Grim Tutor
Imperial Seal
The Abyss
Nether Void
Chains of Mephistopheles
Juzam Djinn
Bazaar of Baghdad
The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
Mishra's Workshop
Candelabra of Tawnos
(Yes, I started running out of good, legal mono-black options at the end. Several of those could actually be valid includes except, uh, you'd need to have them)
More seriously though, what kind of mono-black deck? You have the always valid Demonic Tutor/Vampiric Tutor combo but whether or not you want those depends on if you're OK with strong tutors. Diabolic Intent is also a less broken but still good tutor option. And if you want to really be stylish/potentially deck yourself there's stuff like Demonic Consultation and Tainted Pact.
If you want to tell people not to attack you there's No Mercy, although that doesn't PWs at all.
Since you're mono-black you can run Bubbling Muck to do your best High Tide impression.
Toxic Deluge/Death Cloud/Damnation are there when you want to just murder everything whereas Pox/Small Pox let you just make everyone hate you.
I don't really know where to go here without more of a deck direction provided.
Edit:
Oh, and both Living End and (especially) Living Death do, well, things.