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[Santiako]

It's kind of weird that that this one Exiles before it transforms, but the other ones don't. I guess there might be a little more general weirdness with going from Creature to Land, instead of Artifact to Land.

I think it's because otherwise you'd have a tapped attacking noncreature land at the end of combat and that could get weird.

EDIT: Or what Justin quoted below

 

[Justin]

It's kind of weird that that this one Exiles before it transforms, but the other ones don't. I guess there might be a little more general weirdness with going from Creature to Land, instead of Artifact to Land.

This particular card transforms oddly via exile because if it simply turned over ("transformed"), it would become a 0/0 land and die due to how crewed Vehicles without a printed power and toughness work in the rules.

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/card-preview/conquering-design-ixalan-2017-09-05

 

[bigkrev]

The flavor of the card, which I love

This card tells the story of early conquerors sailing their ships, crashing ashore, then dismantling their ship for the lumber required to build their first settlement. There's no going back now!

Initially, the backside was creating creature tokens of your choice to help settle the new plane, but we wanted token-making as a reward elsewhere in the set. Also, "Choose a creature type" tokens like on Volrath's Laboratory are difficult to illustrate. We ultimately settled on card-flow upgrades (loot, draw, regrowth) that felt like a port where fresh goods would enter. The bigger your settlement (mana base), the better the quality of goods flowing in.

 

[Santiako]

The art is great:

 

[Justin]

 

[ultron87]

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/card-preview/conquering-design-ixalan-2017-09-05

Ah yes. That certainly makes sense. Ha.

 

[The Technomancer]

Oh boy

 

[Justin]

 

[Repgnar]

Is that 3/5 of the flip cards so far? Really hoping for a westvale Abbey replacement like sacrificing creatures to a volcano/dinosaur.

We have the Hascon drafts, Magic Arena announcement, and more spoilers this week right?

 

[Justin]

Is that 3/5 of the flip cards so far? Really hoping for a westvale Abbey replacement like sacrificing creatures to a volcano/dinosaur.

We have the Hascon drafts, Magic Arena announcement, and more spoilers this week right?

There are 10 flip cards. Arena reveal is 1pm Thursday and Iconic Masters drafts this weekend. Spoilers all this and next week with the pre-pre release stream next Saturday.

 

[Santiako]

I can see control decks using this as a repeatable source of card advantage and maze of ith for the late game.

I dig it.

Is that 3/5 of the flip cards so far? Really hoping for a westvale Abbey replacement like sacrificing creatures to a volcano/dinosaur.

We have the Hascon drafts, Magic Arena announcement, and more spoilers this week right?

There's 10 flip cards. And yes, we have Magic Arena announcement in two days, Hascon drafts this weekend and Ixalan spoilers all week.

 

[A Serious Man]

This is what I'm about.

 

[Ozigizo]

The 2HG dream card.

 

[Santiako]

The 2HG dream card.

Crazy good for Edgar Markov EDH too

 

[Tunoku]

All these transform lands are rad as fuck. Set is getting me more excited than anything from Amonkhet.

 

[OnPoint]

In a format consisting of 12,000+ cards how many cards out of a new 270 card set can you realistically expect to make an impact on the format considering they give no consideration to modern when designing the new cards?

Yes, I can expect that. I feel like other sets had more cards that saw and continue to see play. Look at something like Khans as a set and the cards it provided a number of decks in Modern.

- Swiftspear, Deflecting Palm, Stubborn Denial, Siege Rhino, Become Immense, Anafenza, the Foremost, Murderous Cut, Treasure Cruise (banned), Dig Through Time (banned) ​

That's a bunch of cards still played to some degree today besides the two that were so powerful they had to be banned. This list isn't even counting the fact that it brought the Onslaught fetches into the format. It was a very impactful set.

Shadows Over Innistrad is also proving to be pretty impactful so far as well.

- Nahiri, Anguished Unmaking, Thing in the Ice, Prized Amalgam, Traverse the Uvenwald, Tireless Tracker, Insolent Neonate, Archangel Avacyn​

Then I look at something like Amonkhet and I'm like meh.

- Rhonas, Gideon, Cast Out, Archfiend of Ifnir, Curator of Mysteries, Vizer of Remedies, Desert Cerodon, Horror of the Broken Lands​

Numerically it's basically equal, but it's just not impressive because 5 of the 8 are in one low tier deck.

 

[bigkrev]

Yes, I can expect that. I feel like other sets had more cards that saw and continue to see play. Look at something like Khans as a set and the cards it provided a number of decks in Modern.

- Swiftspear, Deflecting Palm, Stubborn Denial, Siege Rhino, Become Immense, Anafenza, the Foremost, Murderous Cut, Treasure Cruise (banned), Dig Through Time (banned) ​

That's a bunch of cards still played to some degree today besides the two that were so powerful they had to be banned. This list isn't even counting the fact that it brought the Onslaught fetches into the format. It was a very impactful set.

Shadows Over Innistrad is also proving to be pretty impactful so far as well.

- Nahiri, Anguished Unmaking, Thing in the Ice, Prized Amalgam, Traverse the Uvenwald, Tireless Tracker, Insolent Neonate, Archangel Avacyn​

Then I look at something like Amonkhet and I'm like meh.

- Rhonas, Gideon, Cast Out, Archfiend of Ifnir, Curator of Mysteries, Vizer of Remedies, Desert Cerodon, Horror of the Broken Lands​

Numerically it's basically equal, but it's just not impressive because 5 of the 8 are in one low tier deck.

You left out Flooded Strand, Wooded Foothills, ect from the Khans list. :>

 

[OnPoint]

You left out Flooded Strand, Wooded Foothills, ect from the Khans list. :>

I mentioned that I left them off on purpose, right below the list of cards from Khans. The list is impressive even without them, but doubly so with them.

 

[Justin]

Yes, I can expect that. I feel like other sets had more cards that saw and continue to see play. Look at something like Khans as a set and the cards it provided a number of decks in Modern.

- Swiftspear, Deflecting Palm, Stubborn Denial, Siege Rhino, Become Immense, Anafenza, the Foremost, Murderous Cut, Treasure Cruise (banned), Dig Through Time (banned) ​

That's a bunch of cards still played to some degree today besides the two that were so powerful they had to be banned. This list isn't even counting the fact that it brought the Onslaught fetches into the format. It was a very impactful set.

Shadows Over Innistrad is also proving to be pretty impactful so far as well.

- Nahiri, Anguished Unmaking, Thing in the Ice, Prized Amalgam, Traverse the Uvenwald, Tireless Tracker, Insolent Neonate, Archangel Avacyn​

Then I look at something like Amonkhet and I'm like meh.

- Rhonas, Gideon, Cast Out, Archfiend of Ifnir, Curator of Mysteries, Vizer of Remedies, Desert Cerodon, Horror of the Broken Lands​

Numerically it's basically equal, but it's just not impressive because 5 of the 8 are in one low tier deck.

thanks for the rundown. Like I said I don't know much about modern so it is interesting. Are the HOU uncommon lands seeing any play?

 

[OnPoint]

thanks for the rundown. Like I said I don't know much about modern so it is interesting. Are the HOU uncommon lands seeing any play?

I haven't personally seen them yet.

Anyone else come across them?

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Actually interesting that there's no modern impact index for sets.

Shouldn't be too difficult to make even, with multipliers for a card ending up banned.

 

[Santiako]

I've seen the white and black deserts as one ofs in some BW Eldrazi decks, but that's pretty much it.

EDIT: And the blue one is now a staple of mill decks of course.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Scarab God now almost doubled frome when I looked last week, it's passed bolas for the most expensive card from HOU on magiccardmarket.

 

[Justin]

I haven't personally seen them yet.

Anyone else come across them?

I imagine with the large amounts of lands available it would be hard to fit them in.

 

[Ashodin]

I told people time and again the gods are gonna be amazing after rotation

 

[Tunoku]

Should have bought two last week and not just one, crap.

 

[MoxManiac]

A new maze of ith???

That compass is gonna be grear in edh

 

[Justin]

 

[Angry Grimace]

Why is that Mythic? I can't imagine I'd rather have that than Pull from Tomorrow.

 

[Violet_0]

that's some classic villain rationalization right there, Kumena

 

[Etrian Oddity]

This page makes miss Khans Standard. So much fun apart from DTT and TC.

 

[bigkrev]

I'm shocked it's taken 24 years for that effect to be printed

 

[Justin]

 

[Santiako]

Well, that is probably going to be a standard staple:

 

[OnPoint]

Why is that Mythic? I can't imagine I'd rather have that than Pull from Tomorrow.

It seems real bad. Why isn't it an Instant at least?

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Should have bought two last week and not just one, crap.

I got 2 in in time thanks to you. Wouldn't have looked into his price trajecotry if you hadn't asked if I had one.

It seems real bad. Why isn't it an Instant at least?

it would be ncredible as an instant and WotC is pretty averse to making draw go good.

 

[Santiako]

Why is that Mythic? I can't imagine I'd rather have that than Pull from Tomorrow.

I'd much rather have Tidings tbh, and that is an uncommon.

It seems real bad. Why isn't it an Instant at least?

Way too good at instant.

 

[bigkrev]

It seems real bad. Why isn't it an Instant at least?

Constructed playable!

 

[divisionbyzorro]

We last saw this effect in Theros I guess? With Brain Maggot?

There you just got a 1/1 on the ground, but you could grab creatures. However, you almost never grab creatures with these things - you almost always take the removal spells. So getting a 1/2 flier vs a 1/1 dork actually seems like it's basically all upside. This card is sweet.

 

[Joe Molotov]

Overflowing Insight might get some amount of play in a Gearhulk deck.

Edit: n/m, I'm dumb. This isn't an Instant.

 

[Justin]

edit nevermind...

 

[bigkrev]

Also, like the Green Mythic, you could easily convince me this card was something else, and they had to kill it and replace it at the last minute without testing

 

[Justin]

I guess you could use it with your locust god out...

 

[OnPoint]

Overflowing Insight might get some amount of play in a Gearhulk deck.

Edit: n/m, I'm dumb. This isn't an Instant.

Oh, THERE'S why it's a sorcery lol

 

[Justin]

Here is your cheat for it.

 

[bigkrev]

That cutlass was given to a MLB player to preview https://twitter.com/MeLlamoTrevor/status/905102814820671489

I wonder if they will keep doing this in the future with different pro athletes who play, or if it was a "let's give a Pirates player a pirate card" thing

 

[ElyrionX]

Wait. Does this prevent Annihilate triggers?

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Wait. Does this prevent Annihilate triggers?

no

 

[Korgill]

Wait. Does this prevent Annihilate triggers?

No, Annihilate will already be on the stack by the time you could activate this.

 

[ElyrionX]

no

No, Annihilate will already be on the stack by the time you could activate this.

The dream is dead.