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Magic: the Gathering |OT13| Ixalan - Port to Sideboard
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A Serious Man
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What a fucking stupid card in limited.
What a weird fucking card
-Gaining and Paying Life for effects is the Vampire strategy in this set
-3/1 with "free" indestructible is sweet and good on cheap attackers
-3/1 with "free" indestructible is really annoying though on defense and might stall a game so it gets a bonus on attacking rather than being a default 3/1
Seems to make sense to me?
Absurd with Makeshift Munitions, too.
Simply Sarah
Member
I mean, if you compare the two, The Professor's main selling point is that he's trying to provide thoughtful, objective, relevant content to help people maximize the enjoyment they get from their MtG experience. He's very much open to changing his mind on things should he feel the facts indicate he should. On the other hand, Seth is Seth.
A Serious Man
Member
Seth has an arrangement with a trader so he doesn't have to pay for any cards he needs. A lot of the content he produces is in legacy formats as well and I imagine the prospect of producing MTGO videos in a post-Arena world is not very appealing. I can understand his resistance but he's been way off the mark on MDN for awhile.
charlequin
Banned
Yeah I think some of the bearish people on Arena don't account for this enough. Limited is incredibly popular to play and Arena can easily offer a far superior experience to MTGO here -- and give people who are using Hearthstone as a substitutionary good an opportunity to switch to the real thing.
Directly from his ass.
I get the $50 preorrder of each set and stop there; I easily have multiple Tier-1/2 decks to pick from in each season, and if I was a lot more diligent than I am (always doing 100% of my quests, always spending gold on arena runs to maximize return) I could probably build close to any deck I wanted each season. The recent changes to Legendaries in packs has improved the math on this too.
Right, well, when MTGO launched we were still three years from a serious digital ecosystem on game consoles and people were still super wary about even the idea of buying purely virtual goods. Contrast with today when 100% of the most successful video games rely on digital purchases and the tabletop world is full of huge, popular games that have digital versions that cost 1/5th as much to play with no real negative impact.
SigmasonicX
Member
The making of Captivating Crew
* This was explicitly meant to be Enthralling Victor 2.
* Neat how the art description specified that the lovestruck ogre is male.
* This was explicitly meant to be Enthralling Victor 2.
* Neat how the art description specified that the lovestruck ogre is male.
FreedomFrisbee
Member
It occurs that the MTGO economy probably disassembles itself long before Wizards does anything drastic to MTGO itself.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Some pro playing at the Force of Will got a deck check at the top 8 world championship which turned out to be short a card got a game loss and didn't even get to choose who starts game 2.
To top it all off it turns out one of the judges actually dropped the missing card during the deck check.
They said someone planted it lol and that was it when they found out.
Unrelated but this card is kinda sweet in EDH.
To top it all off it turns out one of the judges actually dropped the missing card during the deck check.
They said someone planted it lol and that was it when they found out.
Unrelated but this card is kinda sweet in EDH.
Defo limited bomb. Answer it with a kill spell or lose two creatures blocking it. Plus lose a bunch of life when it ETB. And we don't even know how many common kill spells will be able to deal with this easily.
Don't see it making waves in constructed though. Maybe if it had Haste?
Don't see it making waves in constructed though. Maybe if it had Haste?
What I am curious about would be if I started a new Hearthstone account today, how much money would it cost me to immediately jump into ranked ladder with something like Kazakus Priest or another deck that has a dust cost of 12,000 with cards across multiple sets.
I love the fact that red has gained the bit of the colour pie that covers 'really sexy guys'.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I know Enthralling Victor and that's not Enthralling Victor.
They should have rejected the art if that was what they wanted.
They should have rejected the art if that was what they wanted.
divisionbyzorro
Member
You're making Gideon cry.
Enthralling Victor was the gym superhot guy and Captivating Crew is the foreign charming hot dude from the club.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
a lot, hard to guess exactly dust per pack if you open a lot is something like 100 but that increased recently with changes to legendary timers. 12000 dust if you had to craft absolutely everything would thereby cost $150 (3x 40 packs for $50)
That doesn't account for getting a free legendary from the KoFT prologue and getting a Classic Class Legendary fromt the welcom pack for $5 once (which also includes 10 packs and is fantastic value). You have a 1/9 chance twice to reduce the total needed dust by 1600 essentially and are guaranteed 800 more dust.
divisionbyzorro
Member
I just want to draft. And I want drafts to cost a reasonable amount for online content and not be 10 fucking dollars a pop.
Spoiler day theme: obnoxious aggressive limited threats.
I wanted to compare this to Oketra's Avenger, but that's not doing it justice.
Unless your opponent has a 4-toughness creature, an army of 1/1s, or the ability to outrace you while losing blockers, this thing is going to beat face forever.
Oketra's Avenger was great because it could chip in 3 damage every other turn through your opponents' 2/2s and 2/3s. This gets in every single turn, and can survive removal for a reasonable life payment. Ridiculous card.
This is disgusting and everyone's going to first pick it.
Once you get to the 11-12 merfolk point this gets nutty, but it's impossible to evaluate without knowing how many Merfolk are at common (or how aggressive the tribe is). Otherwise, 2 mana slither blade is awful.
"If you untap with this in play, you win the game"
This needs to switch rarity with that draw 3 discard 2 goblin, because it's Pack Rat levels of busted in limited.
What a weird fucking card
I wanted to compare this to Oketra's Avenger, but that's not doing it justice.
Unless your opponent has a 4-toughness creature, an army of 1/1s, or the ability to outrace you while losing blockers, this thing is going to beat face forever.
Oketra's Avenger was great because it could chip in 3 damage every other turn through your opponents' 2/2s and 2/3s. This gets in every single turn, and can survive removal for a reasonable life payment. Ridiculous card.
This is disgusting and everyone's going to first pick it.
Once you get to the 11-12 merfolk point this gets nutty, but it's impossible to evaluate without knowing how many Merfolk are at common (or how aggressive the tribe is). Otherwise, 2 mana slither blade is awful.
"If you untap with this in play, you win the game"
This needs to switch rarity with that draw 3 discard 2 goblin, because it's Pack Rat levels of busted in limited.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
So if they did start including codes for Arena product in physical boosters, how much would you want? My instinct is that I'd be happy with a 1:2 ratio, i.e each physical booster came with a code for half of the "Magic gold" to buy an Arena booster
SigmasonicX
Member
Charging Monstrosaur really goes above and beyond what I thought they considered acceptable in red. I would have considered it pushed for uncommon at six mana!
divisionbyzorro
Member
I remember when I thought Arborback Stomper was ridiculous at uncommon. It's becoming a pattern.
Assuming a pack is 30 gold, I'd be happy with anywhere from 10-15 per physical booster.
This could also be Wizards' way of keeping standard prices down without using reprint equity on a dozen Masterpieces per set. It absolutely works for Pokemon.
For sure. This is like a windmill slam p1p1 card.
Only real downside I see is that it only has 3 toughness, so it dies to Lightning Strike I guess? Better hope you have a decent removal spell in hand though (and none of that Pacifism shit).
One physical pack = one digital pack the way Pokemon does it. It only provides upside for Wizards and their WPN and gets people bought into the digital side. I imagine a lot more physical drafts would fire off if you could then go home and get a free digital draft.
Whats likely to happen is you attend a FNM or Showdown event and you get digital credit.
charlequin
Banned
It's an average of just over 100 dust per pack if you dust every card and packs in bulk cost around a dollar apiece so... a max of $120. And I don't think any serious tier 1 deck really goes much above 12k dust cost. When you account for card overlap and dust return, you could easily keep current on top competitive Standard decks for a year on $300, max.
Yeah, If you drop ~$160 (amazon coins) on 170 packs per expansion to start, you should be pretty gtg card wise.
Reality Smasher at uncommon is hilarious.
They handed out beta codes for Arena at hascon with the match slips, so this seems like something they're preparing for. I believe they're also giving out priority codes at the Ixalan prerelease.
Given that Hasbro staff forgot to hand out the codes in half of my events, and I've never been to an LGS that remembers to hand out supplementary/advertising material at prereleases other than the promos, this seems like a poor way to handle things.
Etrian Oddity
Member
Trying to figure out what would make a viable UG Fish deck here, the little Johnny in me is getting aroused
intended
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
cursecatcher.
I mean, they giving us basically the same card in that Siren Pirate. Just sucks about the creature type.
If Fish want to be good in standard, we gotta see another lord or two. The Kira replacement is a start, but they need those anthem effects. Wouldn't be too bad to reprint Master of the Pearl Trident, would it?
Or how about bringing back Lord of Atlantis for funsies in Dominaria?
"we work hard, we play hard"
EVERYBODY DANCE NOW
"Bolas, why did you bring me to a gay pirate ship"
Ideally it plugs into WPN via your DCI number so the store wouldn't need to do anything other than enter that you are attending the event like they already do.
This is my impression for how it'll work.
Need an alter with Robert De Niro from Stardust
100 dust/pack seems INSANELY high. Most packs only have ~40 dust (1 rare and 4 commons).
This would be amazing, and it looks like that's already how they're giving priority access to Magic Duels and MTGO Ixalan Prerelease players.
Unrelated: does anyone know if Gamestop is stocking 2017 commander decks yet? I have credit to burn, and all the local stores are out of Draconic Domination.
Maybe I missed this, will arena have ways to earn in game currency through winning match ups the way duels does? I actually managed to unlock the entire amonhket set without paying a single real cent of money just by doing quests and slapping people around in versus.
Shame no campaign, I actually really enjoyed those.
Shame no campaign, I actually really enjoyed those.
I saw them at my gamestop last week, but they only had 1 of each
A Serious Man
Member
Almost certainly.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
that's the minimum dust the mean should be above 100 now that you're guaranteed a legendary among the first 10 packs of each set.
charlequin
Banned
https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/3gp7nh/average_dust_per_pack_test_470_packs_analysed/
You're thinking about the modal pack here and not taking into account what a huge boost to the average goldens, epics and legendaries provide even at lower rates.
