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Magic: The Gathering |OT3| Enchantment Under the Siege
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You infinite bounce w/ Astral Cornucopia + Retraction Helix (or any other 0 spell) on a mana dork, then infibounce Altar of the Brood.
One day WOTC will learn. One day LOL. That being said, I think a few stupid cards every once in a while is a fair price to pay for having the interesting/fun cards that result from pushes more often than not.
BTW what's the source for this?
Sam Black talking to Lauer.
I doubt the card is bannable in standard. It is not consistant turn 3 (and they are fine with turn 4 combos- see Splinter Twin), and it is fragile and disruptable by all colors.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I mean I'm not going to play standard if combo magic is viable.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
They are fine with turn 4 combos in Modern, not Standard.
They didn't ban anything when the angel of glorys rise turn 4 combo hit during the inn/rav era.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The fact that something can be a turn 4 combo isn't the same as consistent turn 4 combo. If it was consistent they would ban the card.
Combos in MTG are clearly not intentional.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Not since Jace, the Mind Sculptor and Stoneforge Mystic.
As mentioned, they were fine with Splinter Twin in standard, which was a 2 card combo and reliable in turn 4. Preordain was legal, and Ponder was added a few months later.
WanderingWind
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I don't get it. Everybody has been bitching about Magic being turned into a combat only game, and here we are with a card that allows for some different strategy and we're still bitching.
I am sensing a pattern here
I am sensing a pattern here
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It was his only win con in hand. He was waiting to be able to protect it with counters yeah. I mean we get to see both players hands. I'm guessing Brad didn't want to get blown out by Anger, so he was super conservative dropping Seeker early. If only he knew how much more quickly he could've ended the game. Still worked out for him in the end
"God's Beard!"
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Won the draft with Jeskai again. I did have Icy Blast and Ashcloud Phoenix though. I cut abzan falconer, alabaster kirin and smite the monstrous from my deck because I hate playing three colors so much.
GamerKingFaiz
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I don't see how anyone can like combo , other than the sole fact they just care about winning. The new one is so dumb and it only works because people come unprepared for it. Guarantee you if every deck has 2 or 3 back to nature's or shatters in their side board the deck will fall apart, I guess I just hoped pros were better than that to basically pray their opponent can't interact with them for the first 2 turns.
Ugh if this was played at my fnm I would quit playing till the set rotated. If we wanted combos we'd play modern or edh.
Ugh if this was played at my fnm I would quit playing till the set rotated. If we wanted combos we'd play modern or edh.
I don't think this was the case. He's not a control deck. He does not need to be holding back on a Mantis Rider just so he can have enough mana to protect it because he has so many other threats in his deck.
More likely, he was afraid of Elspeth and was looking to counter it since that was what cost him game 2. But it just doesn't make sense because he has no idea whether Brad had a Elspeth in hand and it is more likely than not that he didn't. Mantis could have come down and block the goblin tokens and even lay on some pressure. Even if Mantis ate a Lightning Strike, that's still one less burn to the face. I think he misplayed massively there.
Plenty of players like combo, just not the "new" ones i guess. Back in the days it was all about combo and interactions, now it's just derp the bigger dude. Nothing was better than beating combo with RDW Kreygasm
Combo is usually fun to play with but since it's way too similar to solitaire I can understand most people hating it. Last time I played with a combo deck was probably Bargain Rector so I'm definitely not a big fan as well.
At least most modern combos kill you quickly, this ascendancy combo reminds me of eggs specially on modo.
Damn it, I was about to buy Dig Through Times and the price doubled. Guess I'm playing crappy Jace's Ingenuities until I can afford them again.
EDIT: I really like the instant speed and don't have any way of dumping into my graveyard, so no Treasure Cruise. Mana isn't an issue.
EDIT 2: Actually, might try Bitter Revelation (one mana less) or Sultai Soothsayer (gives devotion to green). I just need the digging.
EDIT: I really like the instant speed and don't have any way of dumping into my graveyard, so no Treasure Cruise. Mana isn't an issue.
EDIT 2: Actually, might try Bitter Revelation (one mana less) or Sultai Soothsayer (gives devotion to green). I just need the digging.
You'd be a fool not to think pro players will try to legally use every advantage that they can to win. Playing something the meta is unprepared for is usually exactly when you want to play it. It doesn't make them any less of a player. And how is it even their fault their opponents didn't come prepared for the match?
Nah he could've casted Mantis Rider well before Brad had a 6th mana to cast Elspeth. Why would he even worry about it knowing it can just safely fly over Elspeth anyways? Jeskai is borderline a control deck that can really turn into a control deck post sideboard. And while his deck does have a few threats, he just didn't have them in hand and he wasn't drawing them. Again, I think he was waiting until he can safely cast Mantis Rider and be able to protect it afterwards.
Say he casted Mantis Rider early just to bait a Lightnging Strike. What was in his hands? A bunch of Jeskai Charms and Disdainful Stoke. He doesn't want to waste a bounce spell on tokens and now he doesn't have the mana open to counter any big threats. If he had some Magma Jets, I'm sure he would've played it different because he can then get to his threats quicker.
Green has enchantment and artifact removal, run some naturalizes.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
You guys made it sound like Jeskai Ascendancy was running over the field. There's like 5% of the decks playing combo decks vs. like 25% playing Abzan Midrange.
If you want to run dead sideboard cards against the rest of the field, sure.
At least Thougtseize, Negate, Crackling Doom etc. are good in general.
ThLunarian
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There were two 4-0 combo decks going into round 8. Ascendancy is also being used in a tokens deck that was featured on a Deck Tech. Then there's the fact that it's part of a totally busted modern combo deck too.
It's a multi format staple that makes combo viable in standard for the first time in years. I don't see how it stays at $7.
From Wizards.
At least he admitted to it.
Edit: also a lot of rumblings around Alex Bertoncini cheating again on twitter, he cast a sorcery as instant and unporphed without 2 of the unmorph colors. I saw it on LSV's twitter feed apparently LSV got pretty mad at him, how is he still playing in these big events?
At least he admitted to it.
Edit: also a lot of rumblings around Alex Bertoncini cheating again on twitter, he cast a sorcery as instant and unporphed without 2 of the unmorph colors. I saw it on LSV's twitter feed apparently LSV got pretty mad at him, how is he still playing in these big events?
Packed open 2 regulars and a foil in a box yesterday.. Pretty pumped about the box, also had 4 fetches and a sorin.
The 5% playing it are doing very well. There are other decks, like Tokens, using the card as well. Remember, Caw Blade was only a small percentage of the field at PT Amsterdam.
Correct, it will enter the battlefield as a copy of the creature and the ETB will go on the stack.
"God's Beard!"
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There are no 8-0 decks yet.
There were plenty of signs that this card was going to spike. I'm only surprised that it took so long for it to do so when so many others from the set have already shot up in price.
I'm glad I got most of the cards I wanted in this Standard format before they jumped; Mantis, Dig, Hornet, Rabble and Jeskai Ascendancy. The only card I missed was Sarkhan.
phazedplasma
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Casted villainous wealth for 7 last night in draft.
Revealed Throttle, end hostilities, 2x 3/3s and some land.
Wiped the board ( only had one dude out to his 3), he regnereated a guy and I throttle him.
Played his 2 creatures and pass. Attack him down to 6 and he casts empty the pitts for 14 and gets 7 dudes.
@____@
fml
Revealed Throttle, end hostilities, 2x 3/3s and some land.
Wiped the board ( only had one dude out to his 3), he regnereated a guy and I throttle him.
Played his 2 creatures and pass. Attack him down to 6 and he casts empty the pitts for 14 and gets 7 dudes.
@____@
fml
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/movers/paper/standard
Perilous Vault starting to see a climb it seems, is it seeing play outside of UB control which already isn't doing super?
Perilous Vault starting to see a climb it seems, is it seeing play outside of UB control which already isn't doing super?
Apparently went from 2.50->5 yesterday. Not realy seeing play anywhere else, but it's a unique effect in Standard out of a set no one opened.
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