What deck beats G/W devotion reliably?
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Magic: The Gathering |OT3| Enchantment Under the Siege
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keeblerdrow
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Mill decks.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Well, if GW draws 7 lands in a row, Mardu looks alright!
That's not an issue, I do it too unless I'm really tight for time.
It sounds like the G/W mirrors are simply not able to avoid draws because neither can disrupt Mastery.
Well, I think the guy with 2 draws in a tournament is always pressed for time lol.
divisionbyzorro
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Ban Mastery of the Unseen.
/s
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
That or people can just board against it, idk
Cards that encourage G/W EDH durdlers are terrible enough when not pushed for constructed.
"God's Beard!"
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Who said brad nelson wasn't a nice guy again?
blindrocket
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What do you need and what do you have?
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I need
3 inkmoths
2 pendelhaven
4 mights of old krosa
4 vines of vastwood
3 ichorclaw myr
and if you have these for trade (lol)
Spellskite
Noble Heirarch
And I have
Way too much to list. What are you looking for, there is decent chance I have it.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Maybe I should buy some See the Unwritten just in case huge fuck off Eldrazi are coming to Standard lol
Newb rules clarification:
Does Whip of Erebos prevent sacrifice effects triggering if you sac the creature you Whipped back? The reason I ask is that the rules state, "To sacrifice a permanent, its controller moves it from the battlefield directly to its owner’s graveyard." Whipped creatures are exiled instead so does this mean I can't whip back a creature and use it as fuel for something like Exploit?
EDIT: The Whip Gatherer entry says that death triggers the whipped creature has won't trigger but it doesn't specify anything about other cards. I assume it works the same way, correct?
Does Whip of Erebos prevent sacrifice effects triggering if you sac the creature you Whipped back? The reason I ask is that the rules state, "To sacrifice a permanent, its controller moves it from the battlefield directly to its owner’s graveyard." Whipped creatures are exiled instead so does this mean I can't whip back a creature and use it as fuel for something like Exploit?
EDIT: The Whip Gatherer entry says that death triggers the whipped creature has won't trigger but it doesn't specify anything about other cards. I assume it works the same way, correct?
SigmasonicX
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The creature is still sacrificed, and thus will suffice for paying a cost. It's just that as it's being moved to the graveyard, it gets diverted to the exile zone.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Yeah, I am. But I also have an American forwarding address, so I can get packages for cheap from wherever. What are y'all looking for?
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Huh...that thing looks awesome
That plus Become Immense seems like there's going to be some massive early swings. Become Immense random 2 power creature, swing for 16.
Paying three mana to attack is just asking to get blown out, and you can't even activate it all the time.
Oh, I can just send it to you for free. Shipping to germany is like 1,50. It's not like I'm ever going to play infect. (I'll keep the spellskite tho.)
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Wow, thank you! Hey, if you ever need something to fill out a deck hit me up first and I'll definitely return the favor.
And if you want anything for that spellskite, you know, name your price/trade.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Formidable is one of the laziest win-more mechanics in a while.
Like it doesn't even ask you to build around it the way Ferocious does - rather than assigning extra value to creatures with 4 power (like Frost Walker) it just doesn't care how you even got to 8, a totally arbitrary number well past winmore range.
Like it doesn't even ask you to build around it the way Ferocious does - rather than assigning extra value to creatures with 4 power (like Frost Walker) it just doesn't care how you even got to 8, a totally arbitrary number well past winmore range.
Are you going to attend GP Utrecht? Maybe we can hang out and have a few drinks or something. Too bad there are no german GPs because of the dumb gambling laws.Wow, thank you! Hey, if you ever need something to fill out a deck hit me up first and I'll definitely return the favor.
And if you want anything for that spellskite, you know, name your price/trade.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I hadn't thought about it, but I might go to that one and the Prague one. But I can only find the Prague info. When is Utrecht?
May 30th. You can register here. It's €70 for preregistering, which is okay for six packs of MM2. GP Vegas is $75 I believe and it's possible that GP may be split into two GPs. :lol
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Of course it is, because that's the one week I've got plans. Ironically, with another GAF bro. I dunno, I may still make it though. The days are different and it is MMA2...
I assume Whisperwood's sacrifice effect.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Okay so why doesn't the elemental say "gets +8/+0 until end of turn"?
ThLunarian
Member
Looks like they didn't want you to be able to pump it multiple times in a turn
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Yup, that would be it. Okay. This is more efficient than adding "activate this once a turn" to the end
"Base power toughness" makes a lot of things simpler, especially with p/t swapping.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Layers make all of that a big pain in the ass no matter how you word it though.
I really could see Mastery getting banned rather than risking this situation for the next 5 months in Standard.
phazedplasma
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Does this work?
I have Anafenza (DTK), a aether vial at 3, 4 land in play.
A restoration angel and flickerwisp in hand.
At eot I want to exile 2 of my opponent's permanents until the next eot, a pretty common play.
1. Vial in flickerwisp, put bolster trigger on stack, then wisp trigger.
2. Resolve wisp trigger
3. Cast restoration angel, put bolster trigger on stack, then angel trigger
4. Resolve angel trigger targeting flickerwisp
5. Flickerwisp etb, put bolster trigger on stack, then wisp trigger
6. Resolve wisp trigger, then I get 3 bolsters, probably 2 on flickerwisp and one on anafenza
I have Anafenza (DTK), a aether vial at 3, 4 land in play.
A restoration angel and flickerwisp in hand.
At eot I want to exile 2 of my opponent's permanents until the next eot, a pretty common play.
1. Vial in flickerwisp, put bolster trigger on stack, then wisp trigger.
2. Resolve wisp trigger
3. Cast restoration angel, put bolster trigger on stack, then angel trigger
4. Resolve angel trigger targeting flickerwisp
5. Flickerwisp etb, put bolster trigger on stack, then wisp trigger
6. Resolve wisp trigger, then I get 3 bolsters, probably 2 on flickerwisp and one on anafenza
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I think there needs to be time for the meta to adjust with sideboarding for that matchup before it starts getting ban talk.
It works, but I'm curious which part you thought might NOT work?
There's not time to adjust. Only one week remains before DTK releases. That's the only reason I could see such a weird ban happening.
phazedplasma
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Pretty new to playing modern D+T, just wanted to make sure, since it seems awesome.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Drawing all your games is boring at normal events and the Pro Tour is where people adjust. I don't see it.
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