It's the Eggs situation: you don't want rounds going far overtime each round.
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Magic: The Gathering |OT3| Enchantment Under the Siege
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Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I'm not sure where you got the idea that I didn't understand the underlying problem.
Because if this type of stalled-out match becomes commonplace, it will impact far, far more tournaments than Eggs ever did.
why not just ban nykthos? mastery isn't really an issue unless you have near infinite mana.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I'm not sure where you got the idea that I didn't understand the underlying problem.
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There is not adjustment time for the Meta. FRF standard is over. Hence, you don't seem to understand the bind that puts WotC in given the massive gap between DTK releasing and Origins. If this situation becomes commonplace, it is going to be a disaster for the game.
The mana dump is really the problem though. Even without Nytkhos the games get dumb fast.
As sad as it would make me to see Nykthos leave the format, this makes sense.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
What does DTK launching have to do with anything whatsoever?
The "ban announcement day" is just something WOTC made up. If standard is actually broken, they'll ban something whenever they feel like it.
They don't do emergency bans anymore. They moved the ban date announcement to coincide with set rotations to stop the bans from coming in at super-arbitrary dates in the middle of a format.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Actually, I assure you they do if they need to. Formats just never actually break.
If you actually believe that in the doomsday scenario you're describing they would just let it go because "well its not ban day," I don't know what to tell you.
There has been one emergency ban in MTG's history.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
That doesn't mean anything. Its not the United States Supreme Court. If they NEED to ban a card, they aren't waiting until arbitrary ban day. They aren't going to ban the card before any tournaments other than the one tournament it ruined occur. Its just too quick a trigger-finger.
I mean, its a dumb, awful deck that will ruin standard if no one finds a solution to it - you can tell Patrick is barely contain his hatred for it on camera.
Joe Molotov
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Ban everything, start over.
divisionbyzorro
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Greatest Finals in Grand Prix history.
I really hope this goes to three games.
EDIT: Huge LOL @ Corey attacking before scooping.
I really hope this goes to three games.
Mastery of the Unseen is getting banned so hard.
EDIT: Huge LOL @ Corey attacking before scooping.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I mean, we can agree this is shit
divisionbyzorro
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You clearly have no appreciation for the absurd. I genuinely love this
and hope to everything holy that it never happens again
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I guess you just have to bring Perilous Vault to every FNM
The problem is that the lifegain effect on the card scales- you get half a congregate (1 life for every critter you control) when you flip up a creature, making it impossible for the opponent to actually kill you with damage. In the G/W mirror match, both players are doing it.
It's Rhys EDH decks in Standard.
Oh I see that now. So basically you get all of these Manifests and you flip them up to lifegain.
That's pretty broken. Fuck it. ban it.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
And you can just put two of them down to get double life, etc. Stapling some random second ability onto cards has been a real problem recently.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
That stupid twitch face is annoying every single time
divisionbyzorro
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Corey's deck just can't handle the mirror. What a shame; I was hoping we'd see a third game.
"God's Beard!"
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What a huge mistake not killing the nissa
Yeah, once they showed the sideboards it felt like this was already over.
*Has been out all day and hasn't seen any of the GP*
*Wonders why people are so angry at Mastery of the Unseen*
*Tunes into GP stream. Sees board position. Sees almost 80 minutes on the clock and its only Game 2*
O_O
I guess it's not surprising that the "White Pack Rat" is as awful for non-Cube formats as regular Pack Rat was.
*Wonders why people are so angry at Mastery of the Unseen*
*Tunes into GP stream. Sees board position. Sees almost 80 minutes on the clock and its only Game 2*
O_O
I guess it's not surprising that the "White Pack Rat" is as awful for non-Cube formats as regular Pack Rat was.
"God's Beard!"
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It's not pack rat. It's infinite Sphinx's Revelation.
It will spike it for a few weeks, but either the card is going to get banned, or the format fixes itself (Perilous Vault!) and the deck becomes bad, and the price will drop again.
SigmasonicX
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sooo atarka's command? anyone?
Doesn't help vs a repeatable effect. You need something like Sulfuric Vortex.
Yup. It's normally terrible in constructed/limited for this reason.
divisionbyzorro
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How is the match still going?!!?!!
Mastery is 100% banned.
Mastery is 100% banned.
At some point, an alpha swing has to be lethal right? I mean Dan has to have more than 25 damage of the board. Though to be fair I can barely make out what is actually on the board anymore :/
Infect confirmed returning mechanic in Magic Origins
Also Phyrexian Eldrazi with Infect in Battle of Zendikar
#Kappa
Infect confirmed returning mechanic in Magic Origins
Also Phyrexian Eldrazi with Infect in Battle of Zendikar
#Kappa
Oddly enough, Infect has been moved to the "might come back maybe" list after they realized any 2cc or less Infect Creature is basically too good. (similar to Hexproof.)At some point, an alpha swing has to be lethal right? I mean Dan has to have more than 25 damage of the board. Though to be fair I can barely make out what is actually on the board anymore :/
Infect confirmed returning mechanic in Magic Origins
Also Phyrexian Eldrazi with Infect in Battle of Zendikar
#Kappa
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Whisperwood Elemental is already expensive and gonna get worse. Mastery? I don't know, but its selling out at its former $1.50 price tag and is already like 4-5.
At some point, an alpha swing has to be lethal right? I mean Dan has to have more than 25 damage of the board. Though to be fair I can barely make out what is actually on the board anymore :/
Infect confirmed returning mechanic in Magic Origins
Also Phyrexian Eldrazi with Infect in Battle of Zendikar
#Kappa
crocodile plz
divisionbyzorro
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You can't even have a mirror breaker in your sideboard because the match will go to time before it's relevant. Literally the only time mirror breakers matter is in the top 8, unless you're maindecking them.
I can't wait for this weeks CEDTalks.
I can't wait for this weeks CEDTalks.
At some point, an alpha swing has to be lethal right? I mean Dan has to have more than 25 damage of the board. Though to be fair I can barely make out what is actually on the board anymore :/
Infect confirmed returning mechanic in Magic Origins
Also Phyrexian Eldrazi with Infect in Battle of Zendikar
#Kappa
There is an unknown amount of life that can be gained with the half dozen or so Manifests in play
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I guess they're still playing to let WOTC know what's gonna be on the watchlist for bannign
divisionbyzorro
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Corey playing to his "hope my opponent commits a game-loss infraction" outs.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I already had like 6 from a box + drafting. I think I may have even thrown a few away when housecleaning.
divisionbyzorro
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And then he finally scoops. Ladies and gentleman, we played two games of Magic in 105 minutes.
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