Don't know if it's too expensive to see play but is a cool card
Way too slow. You'll be able to Delve several times over before this is even cast.
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Way too slow. You'll be able to Delve several times over before this is even cast.
He's very good! I just don't think he's $30 good in a set that's going to be opened a ton and as a dude who's not a 4x. He shouldn't go up in the mid-term.But it's so sweet. It's also three colours.
Angry Grimace
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As an actual card, Sarkhan is super good, actually. Three colors in an unpopular color combo is a problem though.
I'm surprised at the number of people who have tried to convince me Sarkhan's actual abilities are bad. His plus is ramp and draw a card and his minus is pooping 4/4 fliers. Drop him and hit the minus and if he makes it to turn 2 you'll just overwhelm them on card advantage and mana.
I'm surprised at the number of people who have tried to convince me Sarkhan's actual abilities are bad. His plus is ramp and draw a card and his minus is pooping 4/4 fliers. Drop him and hit the minus and if he makes it to turn 2 you'll just overwhelm them on card advantage and mana.
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Since they're saving the red enemy hoser for later, I wonder if they're doing something unique with it. Like:
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My preliminary Dragons of Takir drafting strategy:
1) Draft Dragons
2) Do nothing for six turns until I can cast a Dragon
2) ???
3) Profit!
Seriously, Khans had morphs on T5 and Dragons will drop on T6. I might actually try drafting few dragons and just seeing if I can close the game out before T7. It really depends on the quality of the commons and uncommons in this set.
For most every Fates draft I've just forced White by picking every Sandsteppe Outcast I can find and making it work from there. I might not change that this time around. Just remembered that Fates will be drafted last this time around. Maybe not then.
1) Draft Dragons
2) Do nothing for six turns until I can cast a Dragon
2) ???
3) Profit!
Seriously, Khans had morphs on T5 and Dragons will drop on T6. I might actually try drafting few dragons and just seeing if I can close the game out before T7. It really depends on the quality of the commons and uncommons in this set.
For most every Fates draft I've just forced White by picking every Sandsteppe Outcast I can find and making it work from there. I might not change that this time around. Just remembered that Fates will be drafted last this time around. Maybe not then.
SigmasonicX
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BTW, it was mentioned in the development article today that these dragons were specifically meant to be weak in drafts that aren't focusing on dragon tribal.
Drafting a 2 color deck
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Did they mention any special rules with Megamorph like they did with Morph and 5 mana in KTK?
SigmasonicX
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It's exactly the same. Five mana for a creature that will survive combat with and kill a morph creature.
That rule appears to still be in place, the low-cost ones end up with 2 toughness.
SigmasonicX
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As long as it's face-down, it's a creature that can be enchanted by Cloudshift. Since the face is not a creature, you can't use the manifest cost to turn it face up.
EDIT: Derp, was thinking about Cloudform. When the face down creature is exiled, if the face is a permanent, it returns to the battlefield. Otherwise, it remains in exile.
Angry Grimace
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You just get the permanent back face up. Cloudshift doesn't care about what it comes back as - it even says "return that card" (although that's assuredly to remind you that a token can't be Cloudshifted).
Cloudshift (AVR), not Cloudform (FRF).
Angry Grimace
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If it is a Sorcery or Instant, it cannot enter the battlefield by rule and stays exiled.
(307.4. Sorceries can't enter the battlefield. If a sorcery would enter the battlefield, it remains in its previous zone instead.)
GregLombardi
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Haha how much is that going to cost if I might ask? I assume its outside the scope of what me and my friends want to pay (we've already booked a hotel but could be convinced otherwise!). None of us have been to Vegas so we're kind of flying blind.
Angry Grimace
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Never been to Vegas? Oh my sweet summer child...
Would've been amazingly funny in RTR Sphinx's Rev day.
First look at B/R dragons, more to the style I like to play with kills spells instead of full on dragons.
Creatures (12)
4 Thunderbreak Regent
4 Stormbreath Dragon
2 Kolaghan, the Storm's Fury
2 Dragonlord Kolaghan
Spells (16)
2 Lightning Strike
2 Read the Bones
4 Hero's Downfall
3 Kolaghan's command
2 Outpost Siege
Lands (24)
4 Bloodstained Mire
4 Temple of Malice
4 Bloodfell Caves
1 Crucible of the Spirit Dragon
6 Mountain
5 Swamp
Sideboard (15)
4 Thoughtseize
2 Dark Betrayal
3 Anger of the Gods
1 Whip of Erebos
2 Crux of Fate
3 Lilliana Vess
Think Dragon Tempest is worth it, seems like it could be really good? What matchups is Lilliana even good in I only have her there cause she is the only PW I have right now.
The Sideboard is just random right now. Maybe Bile blight over lightning strike?
Creatures (12)
4 Thunderbreak Regent
4 Stormbreath Dragon
2 Kolaghan, the Storm's Fury
2 Dragonlord Kolaghan
Spells (16)
2 Lightning Strike
2 Read the Bones
4 Hero's Downfall
3 Kolaghan's command
2 Outpost Siege
Lands (24)
4 Bloodstained Mire
4 Temple of Malice
4 Bloodfell Caves
1 Crucible of the Spirit Dragon
6 Mountain
5 Swamp
Sideboard (15)
4 Thoughtseize
2 Dark Betrayal
3 Anger of the Gods
1 Whip of Erebos
2 Crux of Fate
3 Lilliana Vess
Think Dragon Tempest is worth it, seems like it could be really good? What matchups is Lilliana even good in I only have her there cause she is the only PW I have right now.
The Sideboard is just random right now. Maybe Bile blight over lightning strike?
phazedplasma
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well, we're in a slightly different situation since my friends and I are using this GP as an excuse to go to vegas to rock climb at red rocks. The magic GP is a bonus. So we're staying very close to red rocks and not very close to the convention center.
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Feel like a total noob asking this, but can anyone help me not suck in Sealed?
GregLombardi
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Ahhhh okay. So yeah it probably isn't costing you a ton. Well, enjoy!
Just placed an order to finish up my green devotion playsets (Polukranos, Nykthos, Genesis Hydra) and get some Gods for my Soulflayer deck. Maybe not the best choice given we're only a few months from rotation, but I'll wring the last drops of fun out of Theros block while I can
I do think the Gods will at least keep their price, as they don't see much Standard play - Polukranos and Nykthos also see Commander play, so they shouldn't drop too much when they rotate, right?
I do think the Gods will at least keep their price, as they don't see much Standard play - Polukranos and Nykthos also see Commander play, so they shouldn't drop too much when they rotate, right?
Angry Grimace
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The last time I did Sealed at a prerelease the only match (and games) I lost were to.....Mastery of the Unseen!
We're actually still half a year from Rotation and months from Super Standard.
Just placed an order to finish up my green devotion playsets (Polukranos, Nykthos, Genesis Hydra) and get some Gods for my Soulflayer deck. Maybe not the best choice given we're only a few months from rotation, but I'll wring the last drops of fun out of Theros block while I can
I do think the Gods will at least keep their price, as they don't see much Standard play - Polukranos and Nykthos also see Commander play, so they shouldn't drop too much when they rotate, right?
We're actually still half a year from Rotation and months from Super Standard.
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I won my sealed event and my promo was... Mastery of the Unseen!
I even called it the best card in the set for limited.
Actually, same here (at the Launch Party). I played Jeskai splashing black (as usual - I played the same colours at the KTK and FRF prereleases, to 2nd and 4th place respectively), and Mastery of the Unseen was the only thing I lost to. Not even the might of Mantis Rider can keep up with 4+ life per turn. I'm surprised it's taken people this long to realise that it might be good in constructed.
Well, there was a game that event where I tried to be clever and Murderous Cut my own guy to counter Douse in Gloom's lifegain and pump my prowess guy for lethal. Unfortunately that put him in range of Valorous Stance
Angry Grimace
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Dragon Tempest doesn't seem good because half of the first mode is wasted on guys that already have haste. There's not a critical dragon mass either, really.
Descent of the Dragons bro.
Though I'm not sure if Tempest or Temur Ascendancy is better in a vacuum. Ascendancy seems better with Sarkhan, but Tempest can win the game on the spot.
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Just watched this and, afterwords, did even worse in MTGO Phantom Sealed...
Just watched this and, afterwords, did even worse in MTGO Phantom Sealed...
Angry Grimace
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That's what they said about Fires of Yavimaya and Saproling Burst.
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Sarkhan being blue still makes no sense man.
I think it has to do with that U. Realms story where he met the old Temur clan leader.
divisionbyzorro
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Easy, just splash two colors for a card that wins on the spot. NBD.
It's also critical to have a way to win on MTGO.
EDIT: It feels like a deal with the devil. "Okay, we'll play a Phenax in our main deck, if you promise not to ban Mystery of the Unseen. Deal?"
divisionbyzorro
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That was guaranteed after the Treasure Cruise ban, and triple guaranteed after it was confirmed that she's not getting a reprint any time soon (when they spoiled the new Liliana).
blindrocket
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I own five. She's my princess.
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Digging for options in Bogles again:
Triclopean Sight is probably too low impact to be used, but man does it troll Cryptic Command.
The real decision here is between Spectral Flight and Madcap Skills. Both give evasion that are more or less relevant depending on the matchup. Madcap Skills is huge in tandem with first strike enablers and is a great out to maindecked blood moons. Spectral Flight is better against Anger of the Gods and Intangible Virtue while being almost as powerful as Madcap.
Triclopean Sight is probably too low impact to be used, but man does it troll Cryptic Command.
The real decision here is between Spectral Flight and Madcap Skills. Both give evasion that are more or less relevant depending on the matchup. Madcap Skills is huge in tandem with first strike enablers and is a great out to maindecked blood moons. Spectral Flight is better against Anger of the Gods and Intangible Virtue while being almost as powerful as Madcap.
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