It's not. It's the RPTQ promo.
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The Technomancer
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Also Allies probably in BFZ
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Still disagree with this. I don't think they factor in promos when considering reprint policies to that extent. Maybe with relatively cheaper cards, but there is no way they're not going to reprint it soon after almost doing so and then seeing the price skyrocket.
They absolutely do. When they were doing judge promos, they clearly were trying very hard not to accidentally tank one of them within the near future by reprinting them. It's the RPTQ promo, its not going to be reprinted this year, and may have to wait until MM3. Hopefully not though.
Batterskull will work for or against your line of thought here. If it's in MM2, then yes, they don't give two shits about the promo cards. If it isn't, then they consider that a viable reprint strategy.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Chose my words carefully. Batterskull's high point was 25 bucks. Lili is 91 bucks and rising. One is also able to be affected by a limited reprint because it's a one of or maybe a 2 of. LotV is a 4 of in almost every deck that runs her and wouldn't be affected by promo reprints. And considering they knew Lili's price is important to manage (again, they were going to reprint her largely as a hedge on that rising even further) it's got to be in their short term plans.
Batterskull would have slowly climbed higher and higher if it didn't have that reprint. WIthout it I'd say it would be closer to $30-$40 today. I do agree that the price won't budge much on LIli now with this reprint, but I believe that's also in part because they waited so damn long to bother. I wouldn't be shocked if we saw her in the block after BFZ if she's not going to be in MM3. I'd say maybe she'd be in BFZ, but Zendikar isn't her storyline, and I'd be shocked if they brought her into it.
They don't crash their promos while they're in circulation. Full-stop.
It's a shitty situation but it's going to stay shitty until 2016 at the earliest.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I don't disagree with any of this.
I also don't think we'll see anything in 2015. We already know everything coming out and nothing is a good fit. It will happen in 2016 though. It being in a promo won't lower the price in any meaningful way. Your first point simply doesn't have enough data behind it as all we really have to go off from is Batterskull, Primeval and this year's Griselbrand.
Batterskull, from the beginning of the PTQ season it was given out to today has still went up in price by around ten bucks and again, it's only a 1-2 off. Titan was given out when it was still in freefall from constant standard play oversells and is now 2x its price at that point. Other than those two points of data, there isn't anything that has been printed that is a modern staple on the level of LotV. And even those two aren't on her level, considering she's the 12th most played non-land card in modern. Titan and Batterskull aren't even in the top 50.
tl:dr: We don't know if they're willing to allow the price of a recent or current promo to go down (I submit you can't "crash" the price of such a sought after mythic rare short of banning it or the archetype it belongs to) by reprinting shortly after or the promo is in the wild. We don't know this because this is a unique situation that they recently tried to remedy but couldn't due to real world factors.
divisionbyzorro
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I think what kirblar is saying is that when you see a card printed as a promo, you can guarantee that it won't see a mass printing for a while. The moment LotV was announced as the RPTQ promo, we should have known that it wouldn't get reprinted in 2015. Otherwise, the promo wouldn't have as much "value."
I say this having zero clue about what he did or did not say: in my experience with poking around GAF in the past, being "level-headed" isn't the quality that keeps you from getting banned should you venture into certain topics.
I say this having zero clue about what he did or did not say: in my experience with poking around GAF in the past, being "level-headed" isn't the quality that keeps you from getting banned should you venture into certain topics.
I feel like JTMS is priced for as much as he is still for several small, but compounding reasons
- Name recognition/allure - he's "modern power"
- Price memory
- Legacy/casual demand
- Speculation for a price jump
- One of like two good cards in a small set
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Well, he got banned for calling a guy an asshole. Granted, the guy said all Republicans should be killed and also got banned, but you know, blatantly calling somebody a name is a dice roll regardless. The mods giveth and the mods taketh away. Besides, he's smart enough to know that it was a likely outcome.
But sometimes, you just gotta say what's on your mind.
I understand that is what he's saying. I disagree for the reasons I detailed in that long, boring data driven post.
But sometimes, you just gotta say what's on your mind.
I understand that is what he's saying. I disagree for the reasons I detailed in that long, boring data driven post.
Yeah pretty much. The promos encourage player participation and to do that they need to have some value.
It's really fucking stupid to put a staple as a PTQ promo though considering that won't result in very many more copies in circulation.
divisionbyzorro
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I understand that is what he's saying. I disagree for the reasons I detailed in that long, boring data driven post.
Ah. My bad; I guess I just didn't quite understand what you were driving at.
"God's Beard!"
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Stupid grimace telling me rise of the eldrazi is back on modo grumble grumble legacy cube grumble grumble
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Congrats. Now, your only goal is to make it to the Pro Tour, beat LSV in the finals 2-0 and start your reign as the next Reid Duke.
"God's Beard!"
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WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Holy shit, did it really jump in price like that? Dude. If you want me to hit you up with some funds, I got the cash to it. CFB was just out of them when I looked last and I have no LCS.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Well, now I feel like a superdick. Rest assured, I am more than happy to pay for any pieces of the infect shell you have. I can't even find a goddamn Pendelhaven. I knew this was going to happen eventually. Infect is too good of a meta crack filler (get your mind out of the gutter GB). People are starting to hoard the pieces.
When I bought it on MTGO, the whole deck cost me under 10 bucks.
When I bought it on MTGO, the whole deck cost me under 10 bucks.
"God's Beard!"
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wot da fuck
divisionbyzorro
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I believe the technical term for that is "REKT."
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";156152698]wot da fuck
[/QUOTE]
you got rekt thats what
you got rekt thats what
"God's Beard!"
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:c
I started a new draft cause somehow I got 13 tix worth of cards, and i utter ended my opponent's supression field that hit my turn four rhino and he scooped up the entire match in response. So I feel less bad now
That said, wow this format is bad.
Joe Molotov
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Do you ever send chat messages like "get rekt, m8" to you opponents in MODO? Is that bad form?
YOU GOT BODIED.
last night I won a draft with six creatures. too bad I didn't manage to get a goblinslide with my quiet contemplation and jeskai ascendancy. imagine the value. one of my opponents said it was the most annoying deck he ever faced. i felt flattered.
also, one of my opponents asked me how to turn the cheating mode on and called me scum. :lol
last night I won a draft with six creatures. too bad I didn't manage to get a goblinslide with my quiet contemplation and jeskai ascendancy. imagine the value. one of my opponents said it was the most annoying deck he ever faced. i felt flattered.
also, one of my opponents asked me how to turn the cheating mode on and called me scum. :lol
"God's Beard!"
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I sent my message to my opponent saying "noooooo
" when he exiled my rhino and I had utter end in my hand.I don't know if it's bluffing or taunting, but it doesn't really matter. Modo opponents aren't really people.
If I was a streamer I'd say dumb shit to my opponents all the time lol
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Lol no, i had a dude try and time me out yesterday (e.g. just sit there for 15 minutes hoping I'd log) because he was mad he lost to my bitchin' Sultai Control deck.
I always report people who do this.
phazedplasma
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"God's Beard!"
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I think the most important part about being a streamer is having cool catchphrases and pet names for your audience to make them feel like part of a community even though you're just monetizing your addictions. Maybe I should practice.
"Yo all my stream students, shoutouts to all the A-class donators in the audience tonight, you're what's keeping the dream alive. GBviewer86, thanks for staying a fan, dude. Tonight's 8-4 is for you good buddy. Before we get into it I just wanna remind everybody that until next tuesday you can use the code GBSTREAM and get 10% off your next pack of Ultra Pros at checkout. You know I got your backs covered."
Man, now I wanna set up a stream.
"Yo all my stream students, shoutouts to all the A-class donators in the audience tonight, you're what's keeping the dream alive. GBviewer86, thanks for staying a fan, dude. Tonight's 8-4 is for you good buddy. Before we get into it I just wanna remind everybody that until next tuesday you can use the code GBSTREAM and get 10% off your next pack of Ultra Pros at checkout. You know I got your backs covered."
Man, now I wanna set up a stream.
I'll post a screencap when I get off work.
Joe Molotov
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[QUOTE="God's Beard!";156161800]I think the most important part about being a streamer is having cool catchphrases and pet names for your audience to make them feel like part of a community even though you're just monetizing your addictions. Maybe I should practice.
"Yo all my stream students, shoutouts to all the A-class donators in the audience tonight, you're what's keeping the dream alive. GBviewer86, thanks for staying a fan, dude. Tonight's 8-4 is for you good buddy. Before we get into it I just wanna remind everybody that until next tuesday you can use the code GBSTREAM and get 10% off your next pack of Ultra Pros at checkout. You know I got your backs covered."
Man, now I wanna set up a stream.[/QUOTE]
I'd watch that.
"Yo all my stream students, shoutouts to all the A-class donators in the audience tonight, you're what's keeping the dream alive. GBviewer86, thanks for staying a fan, dude. Tonight's 8-4 is for you good buddy. Before we get into it I just wanna remind everybody that until next tuesday you can use the code GBSTREAM and get 10% off your next pack of Ultra Pros at checkout. You know I got your backs covered."
Man, now I wanna set up a stream.[/QUOTE]
I'd watch that.
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";156161800]I think the most important part about being a streamer is having cool catchphrases and pet names for your audience to make them feel like part of a community even though you're just monetizing your addictions. Maybe I should practice.
"Yo all my stream students, shoutouts to all the A-class donators in the audience tonight, you're what's keeping the dream alive. GBviewer86, thanks for staying a fan, dude. Tonight's 8-4 is for you good buddy. Before we get into it I just wanna remind everybody that until next tuesday you can use the code GBSTREAM and get 10% off your next pack of Ultra Pros at checkout. You know I got your backs covered."
Man, now I wanna set up a stream.[/QUOTE]
Or you can be Brian Kibler, who quit MTGO except for SCG videos and now just streams Hearthstone, promoting his dog
"Yo all my stream students, shoutouts to all the A-class donators in the audience tonight, you're what's keeping the dream alive. GBviewer86, thanks for staying a fan, dude. Tonight's 8-4 is for you good buddy. Before we get into it I just wanna remind everybody that until next tuesday you can use the code GBSTREAM and get 10% off your next pack of Ultra Pros at checkout. You know I got your backs covered."
Man, now I wanna set up a stream.[/QUOTE]
Or you can be Brian Kibler, who quit MTGO except for SCG videos and now just streams Hearthstone, promoting his dog
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
That's like, 4 signs of depression. Kibler needs help.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Nah, he still gets paid to show up to the prerelease down the street from me.
Its funny, someone said he's the biggest Magic celebrity to me the other day at an LGS and I was like, "meh, I think in general LSV kinda took that over from him," since he actually seems to play Magic still.
yes kirby + templar = kirblar
I just need 4 Noble Heirarchs to complete my infect deck. Come on and be reprinted in MM2! CFB even talked about running four Goyfs in the sideboard. Gimme that reprint too!
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I don't even know why people listen to him so seriously. He doesn't even like Modern very much and he hasn't done anything in Standard in quite a while.
Still have no idea why Finkle didn't chump block that Wolf token
He's in that post HOF stage of his life where, if he had a high finish at a PT, might go to more events to chase the World Championship, but never has to worry about falling off the train
Him continuing to force green while LIfebane was in standard was the nail in the coffin for me.
He's engaging to listen to and vastly charismatic. He's a lot of fun, he's just not particularly interested in being good these days, and hates MODO with a passion.
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