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Magic: The Gathering |OT3| Enchantment Under the Siege
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"God's Beard!"
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You like interesting and fun decks... but you don't want people to show them off? I don't get it.
Not sure I get what you're trying to say. If there's a fun casual deck, chances are a bunch of people want to give it a go and that will naturally drive up the price of the constituent cards. I'm must be missing something here.
pretty sure the Vendilion clique is made of 3 specific faeries.
Oh, in that case they should combine all the eldrazi titans into one card and save us two mythic slots.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Its not even played in Twin as much as it used to but the price hasn't moved because prices in paper magic are not nearly as fluid as they are on MTGO where people actually try to move product. In paper the stores just hoard shit over the long haul and refuse to budge on price. The price graph on old staples is just a flat line, whereas on MTGO you actually see it move around as the bots adjust prices to what will move product.
Most of the Clique are named for things they do, like Mistbinding, Fencing, Puppeteer. The Vendilion Clique is three specific faeries named Veesa, Endry and Iliona. (V+End+ilion)
I don't have a fully formed conspiracy theory, so please don't mistake this as 'the sky is falling' talk. But I know that decks like Woo's, if they show even a glimmer of promise, can spur buyouts of cards that have otherwise gone overlooked and unused for years, sometimes decades. Fist of Suns, for example, is one such card that languished in obscurity before jumping because of a random deck (I think it was Woo? Maybe it was Dzyl? I can't remember). It's come down some since, but even still it's higher than it really needs to be.
I get that supply and demand are real things, but a price hike in Magic is often not a price hike due to natural interest. I dislike that there's a community with the ability and desire to go out and buy up a card real quick in the face of it being interesting, and I dislike that sites like StarCity are almost always somehow ahead of the curve on these buyouts. It feels like there's a back room of people "in the know" and they get out ahead of the jump because they know the content before it goes up. You also saw this with the Bitterblossom unbanning, where right before it was removed from the list, a huge buyout happened.
It's inevitable, I guess. We can't change it back. I really am 'old man yells at cloud' here, but it's how I feel.
Edit: And I know I'm not alone in this thinking. Tiny Leaders is often chided on this board as a price hike format. I kind of agree. I get that it's business, but then don't run Finance articles where you're giving people "tips". It's two-faced and untrustworthy.
Really hope this is a step towards making Angels/Demons of both genders. The White = Angel/Female, Black = Demon/Male thing plays into a lot of tropes in a way that's probably not a positive.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
There is a male angel! Actually there are two of them.
"God's Beard!"
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dat thirst
"I am no one's servant," said Sarkhan. "I am your friendor was, and hope to be again."
...
Narset frowned, as though searching for words.
"Were you close?"
"We might have been, given time," said Sarkhan.
...
"You're not planning to leave Tarkir again?" asked Sarkhan. "There are multitudes of worlds to explore, and you cannot have seen them all."
"Someday I will," said Narset, looking back over her shoulder. "But this world has secrets enough. For right now I'm right where I want to be."
Sarkhan smiled and looked out from under his fedora. In the distance, dragons soared.
"I know exactly what you mean."
"I am no one's servant," said Sarkhan. "I am your friendor was, and hope to be again."
...
Narset frowned, as though searching for words.
"Were you close?"
"We might have been, given time," said Sarkhan.
...
"You're not planning to leave Tarkir again?" asked Sarkhan. "There are multitudes of worlds to explore, and you cannot have seen them all."
"Someday I will," said Narset, looking back over her shoulder. "But this world has secrets enough. For right now I'm right where I want to be."
Sarkhan smiled and looked out from under his fedora. In the distance, dragons soared.
"I know exactly what you mean."
SigmasonicX
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Given that he's a crazy dragon man, I don't think being awkward around women is all that unusual. Still, Sarkhan Unbound seems like it has plenty of room for a fedora.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I just find it funny he was literally too crazy to even speak when he met Narset the first time and now he's all Arthur Fonzarelli.
"God's Beard!"
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He missed the chance to do the "time traveler" prank for real. He coulda gone out and bought a ring and just slipped it on before meeting her.
"My wife Narset... she died so so the dragons could live"
Joe Molotov
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There is actually one female demon, although originally just a "Summon Legend". And what a powerhouse she is.
Pop-O-Matic
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Surprised they haven't done a good old fashioned succubus as a creature yet.
The Technomancer
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They've done Sirens, which is probably about as far as I expect them to go towards a succubus considering their current direction
There is no way succubi/inccubi are going to be showing up in the game...ever. That flip card from Innistrad w/ the bow is the closest you'll get.
There is actually one female demon, although originally just a "Summon Legend". And what a powerhouse she is.
And people say there are no good Rakdos generals. Ha!
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";161128090]The real question is what percentage of MM2 has to be good to justify a $30 draft.
Because that's "rare land in every pack" prices, Aka bullshit.[/QUOTE]
Don't purchase MM15 hoping to get your money back. As I said earlier, stores often refuse to take a bath on anything they've invested in and just refuse to drop prices, so unless they are directly playable in existing Modern decks, the prices you see don't mean anyone will buy it for that.
I would be relatively surprised if Bitterblossom doesn't get a reprint here. But that doesn't mean it will go down in price despite nobody playing it. Also, will almost assuredly have inferior non-Guay art.
Because that's "rare land in every pack" prices, Aka bullshit.[/QUOTE]
Don't purchase MM15 hoping to get your money back. As I said earlier, stores often refuse to take a bath on anything they've invested in and just refuse to drop prices, so unless they are directly playable in existing Modern decks, the prices you see don't mean anyone will buy it for that.
I would be relatively surprised if Bitterblossom doesn't get a reprint here. But that doesn't mean it will go down in price despite nobody playing it. Also, will almost assuredly have inferior non-Guay art.
phazedplasma
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I wonder if Narset will fall for Sarkhan's ...prowess...
Spouses of Tarkir, featuring the Vols! Introducing Baby Vol, the first toddler planeswalker!
Joe Molotov
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As part of a continuing saga with Green Lake Games I sent them another email a day ago asking if they had any tracking information on the orders they promised were being shipped out the last time I emailed them. The answer to yesterdays enquiry? A form letter that they sent me during the last series of emails.
Look familiar? I'm sure it does since it's probably the same thing they're sending to everyone that sends them a message asking where their order is on Amazon. I wonder if I email them again in a week if they'll send me the same shit a third time.
I don't play it, but I had way more trouble playing against Silumgar, the Drifting Death at Game Day. The hexproof is a real issue - Dragonlord Silumgar just eats removal if you tap out for it. Drifting Death made my awesome 4/4 first strike flier useless for blocking Ojutai, too.
I noticed this card for the first time in a while yesterday
and for some reason want to build a deck that uses my favorite pet card of the last year
Something is wrong with me. Help.
Do it and you can be awesome like me!
Joe Molotov
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Yep, that's the one.
I sent them another message yesterday, and they haven't responded yet. I think it's probably safe to give up on these guys.
The Technomancer
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Goddamn what is it with Ux control cards jumping so goddamn high? Its always blue
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Key control cards always do that and frequently are mythics. Sphinx's Revelation being Mythic kind of fucked up prices for that whole deck last year. I think the most played creature other than Ojutai from the set is what, Thunderbreak Regent? And that's in the Event Deck.
I'm less interested in a refund at this point than I am in making sure I leave a scathing review and complain directly to Amazon as this is not the only shit show I've had to deal with on the Amazon marketplace. If I'm going to loan out money for a short period I can think of better places to lend my money than Amazon, since that's essentially what I've done with several orders recently.
The Technomancer
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I love how it looks personally
I've been playing it pretty extensively lately and easily easily easily it's Drifting Death. I can't tell you how often my opponent had a dead removal in their hand. My opponents would once reveals 4 removals after his defeat lol. Hexproof, flying, and that huge body makes it the easy pick to mb.
Definitely Drifting Death. Hexproof means it's almost impossible to get rid of. It's likely to remove a bunch of critters if you attack with it and Ojutai together and it completely stops Elspeth from doing anything useful.
elrechazado
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With the limited nature of modern masters, can regular joes buy a booster box online for msrp, or will it be all speculators and resellers?
Supposedly there's going to be a larger supply this time but who cares. I somehow got a box of MM1 for $175 and I still didn't feel great about it, even though I pulled a Dark Confidant. $10 a pack is absurd, Wizards should feel ashamed.
The question is, who does he sell 2000 Rabblemasters to? Will SCG even take in that volume of cards from a single person in one go?
Infinite Stars
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Well, that Ojutai news makes me feel horrible for the trade I made on Sunday. My Dragonlord Ojutai for his Monastery Mentor. Oh well, lessons learned about trading.
So female Rakshasa have spots while males have stripes.
Thank God Wizards didn't go the cat boob route again.
charlequin
Banned
I kind of always wished they would do a set where they made non-shitty versions of some of the characters from Legends with cool names and/or looks.
amazing
What it really comes down to.
WotC (unsurprisingly) haven't emphasized this, but the real benefit of this packaging is that it makes it dramatically harder to open and reseal product. (Gonna be weird fidgeting with these before a draft tho.)
"God's Beard!"
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Over time Monastery Mentor will be worth significantly more than Ojutai.
SCG would probably buy at half the value so they'd need to be able to sell at least 1k rabblemasters in order to break even. They'd need to do it pretty soon because they'll rotate out in September and I don't think these cards are used in modern all that much.
So the question they'd ask is whether they could sell 1k rabblemasters in that time.
For the dude...he bought 2k rabblemasters at $2.50...meaning he spent 5k...he'd need to sell 325 in order to break even, and 650 at SCG buy prices to break even.
All in all it seems like an incredibly silly thing to do unless he has the market/selling power.
Of course this all goes out the window if it is actually modern playable, or if by some chance it is reprinted in Magic Origins.
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