I do sometimes feel bad for playing control. It visibly makes people upset like no other decks. But geez do I like to pilot it. I think most of the Esper cards usually started out really cheap, and then spike up after a few weeks. Like what did Sphix's Rev start at? $4? We are seeing the same thing with Otujai, except at least Otujai started at what $10?
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Magic: The Gathering |OT3| Enchantment Under the Siege
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I do sometimes feel bad for playing control. It visibly makes people upset like no other decks. But geez do I like to pilot it. I think most of the Esper cards usually started out really cheap, and then spike up after a few weeks. Like what did Sphix's Rev start at? $4? We are seeing the same thing with Otujai, except at least Otujai started at what $10?
divisionbyzorro
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The Esper Dragons control deck is waaaaaay less shitty than the Elixir/Revelation decks from last season. I have zero complaints about it. I think it's a sweet deck that plays well and is actually pretty fun to watch.
phazedplasma
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If I had snaps and commands I'd play it. looks fun
Angry Grimace
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Straight permission decks are just flat out boring and WOTC should never encourage them to exist. But I enjoy playing controlling strategies. Silumgar's Scorn is a neat card because it allows you to play a controlling strategy while requiring you to consider a proactive strategy for the spell to be worth having in your deck.
I absolutely hate cards like Dissolve and shit, that's the WORSE version of Counterspell. Draw-Go-Counter your shit is just the most unimaginative strategy ever.
Infinite Stars
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Why does my brain think all these stupid combo ideas work? I just had an idea for an Exploit Deck that splashes White for Athreos. It's a stupid idea, but I like the general gist of it with Exploit.
"God's Beard!"
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I cant decide if I wanna build BUG or Twin.
Angry Grimace
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[QUOTE="God's Beard!";161461402]I cant decide if I wanna build BUG or Twin.[/QUOTE]
Do you want to win?
Yes ----> Twin
No ----> BUG
Real answer: Modern is a dumb format, don't try and be competitive in it.
Do you want to win?
Yes ----> Twin
No ----> BUG
Real answer: Modern is a dumb format, don't try and be competitive in it.
divisionbyzorro
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Give me back my Seething Song and you can take Twin.
divisionbyzorro
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Only if you banish the Reserved List too.
divisionbyzorro
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The only reason I didn't build Eggs after Cifka's win was because I assumed a ban was imminent. It took them waaaaaaay too long to kill that deck.
Turns out morph is still my favourite mechanic. I made the most ridiculous comeback at FNM against a R/B deck.
I've Aetherspouted away my opponent's Sarkhan Dragonspeaker and two Goblin tokens - she plays Outpost Siege, and next turn drops Stormbreath Dragon and brings me down to 5.
I currently control an unequipped Ghostfire Blade, Trail of Mystery, Mastery of the Unseen, Elvish Mystic, and Deathmist Raptor. I play a morph, leaving me with 1 card in hand (another Mastery of the Unseen).
Opponent exiles a land off Outpost Siege, and attacks with Stormbreath, bringing me down to 1. She then monstrouses Stormbreath to kill me. In response, I flip Rattleclaw Mystic and gain 3 life, surviving on 3.
I draw, and play another morph.
Opponent exiles Thunderbreak Regent off Outpost Siege, then casts Hero's Downfall at my morph. In response, I flip Kheru Spellsnatcher, gain 4 life (up to 7), and counter the Downfall. Opponent casts Thunderbreak, and in response I Downfall the Stormbreath (dat 3-for-1).
I draw, play a morph and another Mastery, and remember to equip it with Ghostfire Blade this time.
Opponent exiles a land off Outpost Siege, casts Dragonlord Kolaghan, and swings in for 10. I unmorph Icefeather Aven, take 3 to bounce Kolaghan, gain 10 from double Mastery trigger (now on 14), then block Thunderbreak with my 6/6 flier (Trail of Mystery + Ghostfire Blade).
Next turn, I manifest Whisperwood using Mastery, and just overwhelm my opponent with creatures and life.
I've Aetherspouted away my opponent's Sarkhan Dragonspeaker and two Goblin tokens - she plays Outpost Siege, and next turn drops Stormbreath Dragon and brings me down to 5.
I currently control an unequipped Ghostfire Blade, Trail of Mystery, Mastery of the Unseen, Elvish Mystic, and Deathmist Raptor. I play a morph, leaving me with 1 card in hand (another Mastery of the Unseen).
Opponent exiles a land off Outpost Siege, and attacks with Stormbreath, bringing me down to 1. She then monstrouses Stormbreath to kill me. In response, I flip Rattleclaw Mystic and gain 3 life, surviving on 3.
I draw, and play another morph.
Opponent exiles Thunderbreak Regent off Outpost Siege, then casts Hero's Downfall at my morph. In response, I flip Kheru Spellsnatcher, gain 4 life (up to 7), and counter the Downfall. Opponent casts Thunderbreak, and in response I Downfall the Stormbreath (dat 3-for-1).
I draw, play a morph and another Mastery, and remember to equip it with Ghostfire Blade this time.
Opponent exiles a land off Outpost Siege, casts Dragonlord Kolaghan, and swings in for 10. I unmorph Icefeather Aven, take 3 to bounce Kolaghan, gain 10 from double Mastery trigger (now on 14), then block Thunderbreak with my 6/6 flier (Trail of Mystery + Ghostfire Blade).
Next turn, I manifest Whisperwood using Mastery, and just overwhelm my opponent with creatures and life.
Angry Grimace
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I really should just quit this game. Every single time I play I get 1 or 2 lands and nothing. Literally have lost 20 matches on MTGO in the last three days. I'm not even playing dumb brews, I'm just playing regular Tier 1 decks and just losing every game for no real reason other than drawing no lands or all lands.
Edit: Fuck it, just lost again to no lands. What's the best site to sell your collection?
Edit: Fuck it, just lost again to no lands. What's the best site to sell your collection?
Angry Grimace
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New Clique is way better than old Clique.
divisionbyzorro
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I still don't know whether to call it "Selfie Stick Clique" or "Powerpuff Clique."
Powerpuff is taken by the AVR Angels.
"God's Beard!"
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C'mon, playing abrupt decay and clique in the same deck is sweet.
Angry Grimace
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The Vendilion Clique isn't all girls, so they can't be Powerpuff. One of them's a dude.
It still pisses me off that Vendilion Clique is Mythic.
It still pisses me off that Vendilion Clique is Mythic.
I download Shandalaar from time to time, God damn that game is bullshit sometimes lol. Would love for it to be updated a bit, mana burn gets me occasionally because I forgot about it.
I saw a sealed copy for sale in Japan, so nostalgic.
I vaguely remember an elderly dude with a mono white Armageddon Clock deck.
GoutPatrol
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The pre-release Hero is the worst metal bikini fantasy junk.
"God's Beard!"
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Well, I managed to trade some of my old bogles cards for a playset of Splinter Twins today. So that decision is made. Only question left is UR or Grixis.
"God's Beard!"
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But it's my favorite colors
Angry Grimace
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I don't really understand why they printed Virulent Plague. Its a stupid card that is functionally useless 99% of the time beyond making a specific deck completely invalid.
Because Jeskai Ascendancy is incredibly obnoxious and they wanted a card that hard-countered the token version of the deck.
Angry Grimace
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That doesn't make sense, dude. DTK and KTK were designed closely enough together if that was true they would have just deleted the untap clause on Jeskai Ascendancy.
Even assuming, arguendo, that what you are saying is true, printing a single card that invalidates an entire deck is absurd. You know what else is incredibly obnoxious? Every single deck being Mono Red Aggro or Esper Dragon Control. That doesn't mean we go out and print 2G Enchantments that say "spells can't be countered."
charlequin
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Any time there's a weird ultra-narrow hoser like this it's because they wanted to give people some out if a particular deck got super-obnoxious. Nobody's gonna run a 3-mana token hoser even in their sideboard unless token decks just get completely out of control.
Angry Grimace
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I made my Temur Dragons deck better by deleting Sarkhan Unbroken and putting in some Icefall Regents instead.
The dream is dead, guys.
The dream is dead, guys.
I assumed they printed it because it hurts splinter twin pretty well.
Illness in the Ranks already did that.
ah shit. Yeh that makes more sense.
divisionbyzorro
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When do Modern Masters spoilers start?
Joe Molotov
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Woo, Conspiracy draft night. Some lucky bastard at the shop popped a foil Dack Fayden last week.
"God's Beard!"
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I can't figure out if Stratus Dancer is good or not. It blocks aggro and attacks control in the early game, and it's a counter late game, but it winds up being kind of awkward more often than I expect, which is strange for such a flexible card.Sometimes I just want actual negate.
pelicansurf
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[QUOTE="God's Beard!";161536762]I can't figure out if Stratus Dancer is good or not. It blocks aggro and attacks control in the early game, and it's a counter late game, but it winds up being kind of awkward more often than I expect, which is strange for such a flexible card.Sometimes I just want actual negate.[/QUOTE]
It's probably good in heavy creature decks. Go play some temur with den protectors and stratus dancers.
It's probably good in heavy creature decks. Go play some temur with den protectors and stratus dancers.
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";161536762]I can't figure out if Stratus Dancer is good or not. It blocks aggro and attacks control in the early game, and it's a counter late game, but it winds up being kind of awkward more often than I expect, which is strange for such a flexible card.Sometimes I just want actual negate.[/QUOTE]
Trying it out in my modern Manifest build. I'll be building it this weekend, I'll post a list after some testing
Trying it out in my modern Manifest build. I'll be building it this weekend, I'll post a list after some testing
"God's Beard!"
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I've got a pair in the board of my Sultai Dredge deck that runs Den Protectors and Deathmist Raptors. But I'm probably cutting the Raptors too.
Apparently there is only 60 people at the Regional PTQ in Catskill, New York today according to my friends, about the same amount in Philly via twitter (also from this), and 38 in Utah at Chris Pikula's. Not sure what the expectations were, but I'm curious to see what the numbers were across the board.
Edit: 114 in Chicago. 71 in Lenexa KS.
Edit: 114 in Chicago. 71 in Lenexa KS.
divisionbyzorro
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Go Meddling Mage, go!!!
Philly is way smaller than expected. I wonder if there were a lot more no-show winners than they thought.
(Will definitely be trying to hit up more PPTQs now.)
"God's Beard!"
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I'm thinking about entering a large local tournament tomorrow that has all the local shops sending teams, but I'm only 80% comfortable with my list:
I haven't been super impressed with Deathmists, but maybe they're good enough anyway. In the sideboard, I can't decide if I want the Sultai Charms to swap out for an Ultimate Price and a Rec Sage, or if I want the Stratus Dancers to be Negates. I think without the Deathmist Raptors, maybe Negates are better?
I've tried with and without Sylvans, and I like the deck better without them, but adding Atarka makes that harder to justify. I ran the 4th Den Protector, a pair of Deathmists and an Ultimate Price over the 4 Sylvans previously. A second Hornet Queen was in the Atarka slot.
Wow, the PPTQs here range around 50-140 people lol
38 at an actual PTQ is crazy.
I haven't been super impressed with Deathmists, but maybe they're good enough anyway. In the sideboard, I can't decide if I want the Sultai Charms to swap out for an Ultimate Price and a Rec Sage, or if I want the Stratus Dancers to be Negates. I think without the Deathmist Raptors, maybe Negates are better?
I've tried with and without Sylvans, and I like the deck better without them, but adding Atarka makes that harder to justify. I ran the 4th Den Protector, a pair of Deathmists and an Ultimate Price over the 4 Sylvans previously. A second Hornet Queen was in the Atarka slot.
Wow, the PPTQs here range around 50-140 people lol
38 at an actual PTQ is crazy.
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