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Magic: the Gathering |OT4| Izzet Me; Izzet You? A Love Story
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divisionbyzorro
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It's incredible in EDH. Every Kemba player I know is super excited.
Oh yeah, I don't think the card is playable in Modern.
I miss One With Nature.
It's a similar card but this one requires damage to the player. That difference is the main reason why I think this Sword will see play.
What do you guys think of this?
Feels like it could be the surprise hit to me. Thoughts?
Gods the art is appallingly bad. How has Origins ended up having so many astonishingly ugly cards?
Lazy vs Crazy
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Looks like Shaman of the Spring from m15. Same artist maybe?
Honestly, I hate the art a lot in this set.
Sequence Six
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That's how I see it--mono white's ramp in EDH. It should fit the bill nicely.
Sequence Six
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Yup, Johannes Voss.
I'm trying to find a good equipment to use with Relic hunter in mono white so I'm trying atm 1 sword of the animist and 1 godsend. The only other equipment I can think of that might be worth it is haunted plate mail since it gets around the whole kill your guy in response to equipping thing.
Btw for the first few fnms if you have people that brew I'd bring a couple back to nature's in your sideboard (if you have g obv). Alot of people trying to do the whole Starfield to nyx thing.
Btw for the first few fnms if you have people that brew I'd bring a couple back to nature's in your sideboard (if you have g obv). Alot of people trying to do the whole Starfield to nyx thing.
SigmasonicX
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Magic Origins prerelease packs coming with story booklets
And MaRo rates his last 100 articles
Others in link, or you can just modify the URL. Nissa's won't be put up yet.
And MaRo rates his last 100 articles
It's kind of weird they included regeneration in the set anyway, thought they were trying to get away from the mechanic. Is there any reason you can't just replace regeneration with temporary indestructible effects?
SigmasonicX
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If you want some actually funny rules text, the Chains of Mephistopholes oracle text has you covered.
"If a player would draw a card except the first one he or she draws in his or her draw step each turn, that player discards a card instead. If the player discards a card this way, he or she draws a card. If the player doesn't discard a card this way, he or she puts the top card of his or her library into his or her graveyard."
Amazing that the oracle text is actually less clear than the original text.
"If a player would draw a card except the first one he or she draws in his or her draw step each turn, that player discards a card instead. If the player discards a card this way, he or she draws a card. If the player doesn't discard a card this way, he or she puts the top card of his or her library into his or her graveyard."
Amazing that the oracle text is actually less clear than the original text.
SigmasonicX
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The damage has already been done. Regeneration doesn't prevent damage. It's a replacement effect for the creature being destroyed, either by damage or by something else.
"God's Beard!"
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GGs Dux, Elves too beast except when you draw 9/21 lands and somehow die to mass calcify lol
I do like the whole, "guess I have to win this turn... oops double shaman take 14" potential of the deck.
It's weird but I went from 4 down to 2 Sylvan Messengers a couple days ago and back up to 3 Chord of Calling because I found out that I never had enough time to cast all my cards lol
I do like the whole, "guess I have to win this turn... oops double shaman take 14" potential of the deck.
It's weird but I went from 4 down to 2 Sylvan Messengers a couple days ago and back up to 3 Chord of Calling because I found out that I never had enough time to cast all my cards lol
Infinite Stars
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Huh. Those imply to me we're having achievement esque things, which..eh. I'm sure it's not that bad, but even in a pack "FIND THIS RARE" is frustrating as an idea, unless it's literally "Find this rare at the Pre release". Or if it's global achievements like FRF was IIRC.
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
Man, Arcbound Ravager went from a $20 dollar card to mid-$50s in a span of like 3 days.
What the deuce.
I'm glad I got mine at low $20s as they were starting to spike.
What the deuce.
I'm glad I got mine at low $20s as they were starting to spike.
But destroy effects are essentially prevented in the literal sense. It just seems like a clusterfuck of words that don't make any sense for a beginner. If I go by Magic 101, creatures die if they receive lethal damage. Plus, removing something should relate to something tangible like counters or cards. Removing damage doesn't mean anything because there's nothing to remove. Like, say they design a card that reads: "Remove all damage from target creature." It would make no sense on top of being a terrible card!
Destroy effects aren't prevented, they're replaced. A creature is destroyed if they have lethal damage. Regeneration replaces the destruction to save the creature. If it didn't remove the damage, the creature would just immediately be destroyed because it would still have lethal damage. Without that clause, regeneration would not work for saving creatures from damage.
Sure, it's confusing if you look at it too hard, but it's necessary for the ability to work in the most easily understandable way ("If your creature would be killed after you regenerate it, it isn't").
"God's Beard!"
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So Hushwing Gryff is pretty good against elves.
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pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
It was already Tier 1.
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
Probably the shaman of the pack damage ability, fetching lands with Nissa, etc.
Lazy vs Crazy
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If regeneration didn't remove damage weird things would happen. Say it is a 3/3 and it takes 4 in combat then you regenerate it. If it didn't remove the damage but just prevented it from being destroyed someone could just shock it to kill it because any damage would be enough to kill it.
"God's Beard!"
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Everything in the deck, mostly. It's like mono-etb triggers.
Actually, that wouldn't work, because it would just be killed immediately. State-based actions would be checked, regeneration would kick in, preventing the destruction, then state-based actions would be checked again. The regeneration shield would be gone, so it would just die. Regeneration would essentially do nothing. This is the same reason that Totem armor removes all damage when you sacrifice it.
Because that's a lot stronger. With the way regeneration currently works, it still loses to first strike.
Wait, now I'm confused. How does it lose to first strike?
I'm guessing they mean that a lethal first striker won't get hit back by it's regenerating opponent in combat with the current rules.
The creature being regenerated won't get to do combat damage, just take it.
Joe Molotov
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It's still okay if you're just chump blocking, but you can't trade with a first striker.
charlequin
Banned
This only just occurred to me, but they made a last minute change from a regular core set (around 50% reprints) to, what, like 20% reprints? They probably had to scrape the barrel pretty hard to get enough commissions to cover their empty slots for cheap at short notice.
Rosewater even admitted it's only still here since they don't have a replacement they like yet.
Mostly that it's a looooot stronger.
Sorry GB I had a late night of edh at dennys, the hushwing gryff was just part of the deck, that deck I played against you was my take on D&T in standard lol, I tried to think of all the white cards that taxed/restricted players in any way.
Since it's mostly mono white I put 2 mass calcium and 2 resolute archangel as the payoff cards for white devotion into the sideboard
I really think archangel of tithes is ridiculous and will see standard play, red decks have no answer if you can land it.
Since it's mostly mono white I put 2 mass calcium and 2 resolute archangel as the payoff cards for white devotion into the sideboard
I really think archangel of tithes is ridiculous and will see standard play, red decks have no answer if you can land it.
fifasnipe2224
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So what are everyones thoughts on the Pre Release?
We have no idea what is in the special pack this time (just that it is 7 cards of the color you choose), so just feel free to pick whatever color you want,. I'm going to take either Blue or Black, and make the choice by seeing which one has the most boxes left.
I've been slowly working through my boxes weeding out shit like that. I usually give them to my friends who are just getting into the game, but might just start recycling them soon.
SigmasonicX
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I'm planning on going green.
Pro Tour Hall of Fame now has a slot open for community voting.
And I just noticed that Deep-Sea Terror literally has threshold. I guess that means it's from Dominaria.
Pro Tour Hall of Fame now has a slot open for community voting.
And I just noticed that Deep-Sea Terror literally has threshold. I guess that means it's from Dominaria.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Alright, you can vote Saito back in
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