Nice. Reprint stupid Gemstone Mine. While at it, reprint Bribery too, it's Commander ffs.
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Magic: the Gathering |OT4| Izzet Me; Izzet You? A Love Story
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Nice. Reprint stupid Gemstone Mine. While at it, reprint Bribery too, it's Commander ffs.
Oh excellent. Little bummed we didn't get a spoiler from it but I assume well see something at pax?
blindrocket
Member
That's an announcement for retailers. Is that usually how WotC handles it (announcing to retailers first via website)?
SigmasonicX
Member
No, there's usually a more spruced up announcement made for everyone. The only way we learn about products before that is usually through trademark filings.
"God's Beard!"
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Man, my group fell apart so I dunno if I'll be able to go to GP SD anymore :-(
charlequin
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Usually they arrange public product announcements to come shortly before the margin they need to give to retail, but occasionally there are some crossed wires. That probably means there's a formal announcement in the next week or two; they have to announce these things with 3 months' lead time so there's not a lot of time left to hit November.
You will get your Command Towers and you will like it!
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Transhuman
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Tarnished Citadel. Just cheap enough for them to consider reprinting, just playable enough to use.
blindrocket
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True dual lands aren't on the reserved list, are they?
Put those in the commander precons
Put those in the commander precons
True dual lands aren't on the reserved list, are they?
Put those in the commander precons
They are.
blindrocket
Member
Oh... Well that sucks.
Make them artifact lands. Bam, problem solved.
They can't have functional reprints either.
divisionbyzorro
Member
Not a functional reprint.
The original design file for the first Commander product had Snow duals in it. They ended up not printing them for myriad reasons; I would imagine mostly because they don't want tournament players snatching them all up.
The original design file for the first Commander product had Snow duals in it. They ended up not printing them for myriad reasons; I would imagine mostly because they don't want tournament players snatching them all up.
They could reprint any card at any time. They've already removed some cards from the original list so why couldn't they just abolish it altogether?
Easier to pickup some random foils over a long period than plop down possibly hundreds to get the duals for all of their edh decks. Plus it's not like those small percentage points that duals would provide are important in casual magic.
Tell that to WotC.
That's not how the people I know spend on foils. I'm talking about stuff like Academy Rector foil or Niv Mizzet champion foil.
And duals are insane, even in EDH. The synergy with fetches and with cards like Nature's Lore provides so much mana fixing you just won't find anywhere else.
They actually closed the loopholes on the list in 2011 (which allowed them to do things like put foil Mox Diamond and Masticore in FTV Relics). At this point, the only way it's happening is if Hasbro takes control from Wizards, or if the game is actually killed, and they do one final set.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";174035343]Man, my group fell apart so I dunno if I'll be able to go to GP SD anymore :-([/QUOTE]
My wife is pressuring me to play in it.
My wife is pressuring me to play in it.
"God's Beard!"
Member
It'd be fun. My group ditched me so I don't have a ride or room to split anymore and last-minute flights are pretty expensive.
I could take Amtrak but it's 11 hours...
Is this how TeamGAF gets formed?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I'd probably just wash out and waste 75 bucks or something.
I smell a TeamGAF Patreon cooking.
It'd be neat to have some folks to cheer for.
"God's Beard!"
Member
I think if I'm gonna do well anytime soon it'd be at this tournament but if I don't go it doesn't matter.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The biggest problem is that I currently don't have $75.
Those student loans are a bitch, man.
Those student loans are a bitch, man.
SigmasonicX
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Discovered this card. It seems useful for comment responses.
platypotamus
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I want them to release legendary duals so bad. We could call them Cube Lands, because we'd all put them in our cubes and they'd be affordable compared to non legendary duals. I guess people could use them in commander too, but whatever.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Rich Cube Man would just put both in.
platypotamus
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Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I have a 1-of in my deck, but it mostly just eats a Downfall or something else on the opponents turn. That's not even a particularly bad thing sometimes - it doesn't die to mass removal of any kind so its almost always a 1-for-1 on their turn. That said, I don't know that I'd say its *really* enough to justify running it - that's a pretty small thing to gain when it eats immediate removal.
"God's Beard!"
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Here's the deck I was planning on taking to GP San Diego with my updated tech:
Sultai Midrange
Creatures(24):
Spells(10):
Enchantments(3):
Land(23):
Sideboard(15):
Sultai Charm is really strong right now.
Sultai Midrange
Creatures(24):
- 4 Satyr Wayfinder
- 2 Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
- 4 Den Protector
- 1 Nissa, Vastwood Seer
- 3 Courser of Kruphix
- 1 Tasigur, the Golden Fang
- 4 Sidisi, Brood Tyrant
- 4 Priest of the Blood Rite
- 1 Sidisi, Undead Vizier
Spells(10):
- 4 Thoughtseize
- 2 Murderous Cut
- 2 Hero's Downfall
- 2 Sultai Charm
Enchantments(3):
- 2 Whip of Erebos
- 1 Evolutionary Leap
Land(23):
- 1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
- 3 Polluted Delta
- 2 Swamp
- 1 Island
- 3 Forest
- 2 Llanowar Wastes
- 3 Yavimaya Coast
- 1 Temple of Mystery
- 1 Temple of Deceit
- 2 Temple of Malady
- 4 Opulent Palace
Sideboard(15):
- 1 Treasure Cruise
- 1 Bile Blight
- 2 Stratus Dancer
- 2 Disdainful Stroke
- 1 Dragonlord Silumgar
- 2 Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver
- 2 Crux of Fate
- 1 Pharika, God of Affliction
- 1 Drown in Sorrow
- 1 Negate
- 1 Duress
Sultai Charm is really strong right now.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Whip getting one last GB hurrah
"God's Beard!"
Member
Yeah, I'm super salty I'm not going now because I put a lot of extra effort into this list for the tournament and my group bailing on me after promising me a spot kinda sucks. Even if I take the 11-hour ride on the Amtrak I don't have a place to stay and I'm sure last-minute hotels are just as expensive as last-minute plane tickets.
Guess I'll just troll game day with Elves at this point.
It's more that it tends to just end a game vs U/R or Mono-R on the spot.
Angry Grimace
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Yeah, its still in my MB because it ends almost literally any game where it sticks and can't be killed by non-black decks.
Dromoka's Command + Hornet Nest + Dromoka = So much fun vs those guys postboard.
"God's Beard!"
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I mean, Dromoka is probably alright this weekend but I don't expect UR and Mono Red to dominate the remainder of the season. They're not the hardest decks to beat if that's what you're looking to do.
The problem with Dromoka against mono red is that you're probably playing things that get blown out to Searing Blood in order to cast it before dying. Dromoka's Command is good, but not something you hold up in the first 4 turns easily. It's definitely good post board when you have a better stabilizing force to get you there.
I do like having access to a couple copies of hornet nest, though.
The problem with Dromoka against mono red is that you're probably playing things that get blown out to Searing Blood in order to cast it before dying. Dromoka's Command is good, but not something you hold up in the first 4 turns easily. It's definitely good post board when you have a better stabilizing force to get you there.
I do like having access to a couple copies of hornet nest, though.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";174179469]I mean, Dromoka is probably alright this weekend but I don't expect UR and Mono Red to dominate the remainder of the season. They're not the hardest decks to beat if that's what you're looking to do.
The problem with Dromoka against mono red is that you're probably playing things that get blown out to Searing Blood in order to cast it before dying. Dromoka's Command is good, but not something you hold up in the first 4 turns easily. It's definitely good post board when you have a better stabilizing force to get you there.
I do like having access to a couple copies of hornet nest, though.[/QUOTE]
If you're playing Dragonlord Dromoka against Mono-Red you already won the game
The problem with Dromoka against mono red is that you're probably playing things that get blown out to Searing Blood in order to cast it before dying. Dromoka's Command is good, but not something you hold up in the first 4 turns easily. It's definitely good post board when you have a better stabilizing force to get you there.
I do like having access to a couple copies of hornet nest, though.[/QUOTE]
If you're playing Dragonlord Dromoka against Mono-Red you already won the game
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";174179469]I mean, Dromoka is probably alright this weekend but I don't expect UR and Mono Red to dominate the remainder of the season. They're not the hardest decks to beat if that's what you're looking to do.
The problem with Dromoka against mono red is that you're probably playing things that get blown out to Searing Blood in order to cast it before dying. Dromoka's Command is good, but not something you hold up in the first 4 turns easily. It's definitely good post board when you have a better stabilizing force to get you there.
I do like having access to a couple copies of hornet nest, though.[/QUOTE]
The shell you want her in (Naya Dragons) has a real good game post-SB- I'm not sure if you even maindeck the commands.
The problem with Dromoka against mono red is that you're probably playing things that get blown out to Searing Blood in order to cast it before dying. Dromoka's Command is good, but not something you hold up in the first 4 turns easily. It's definitely good post board when you have a better stabilizing force to get you there.
I do like having access to a couple copies of hornet nest, though.[/QUOTE]
The shell you want her in (Naya Dragons) has a real good game post-SB- I'm not sure if you even maindeck the commands.
blindrocket
Member
I wish that they'd actually release a cube. Or even cube colors if a full cube would be too much product in one item. Like you buy a set of blue, a set of red, a set of black, etc. for your cube.
shrapnelmagnet
Member
Anyone have much experience with Origins in Sealed or, better yet, Sealed Two-Headed Giant?
I'm not crazy thinking that Day's Undoing is just fully horrible, right? Do you think otherwise "bad" combat tricks like Touch of Moonglove are worth using? Or Dark Dabbling? I wouldn't normally look to run these cards, but I'm not a big Sealed guy so maybe I'm undervaluing them.
According to everyone I listen to (podcasts, etc.) they say that aggro decks take the day in Draft and that it's a fast format - however everything I've read / heard about Sealed is that aggro is a sure-fire way to lose unless you have an insane pool.
This pool is super weird - no hard removal (like Cruel Revival), really, but there's a Languish. That seems worth it to pull me into at least one of the decks having Black.
Other questions:
1) Should I still value two-drops like Subterranean Scout?
2) Is Akroan Jailer is still a no-go?
I'm not crazy thinking that Day's Undoing is just fully horrible, right? Do you think otherwise "bad" combat tricks like Touch of Moonglove are worth using? Or Dark Dabbling? I wouldn't normally look to run these cards, but I'm not a big Sealed guy so maybe I'm undervaluing them.
According to everyone I listen to (podcasts, etc.) they say that aggro decks take the day in Draft and that it's a fast format - however everything I've read / heard about Sealed is that aggro is a sure-fire way to lose unless you have an insane pool.
This pool is super weird - no hard removal (like Cruel Revival), really, but there's a Languish. That seems worth it to pull me into at least one of the decks having Black.
Other questions:
1) Should I still value two-drops like Subterranean Scout?
2) Is Akroan Jailer is still a no-go?
"God's Beard!"
Member
Exactly.
Yeah but every deck has game against mono red after board. You're not wrong that Dromoka is particularly good against the strong decks coming out of the Pro Tour, but I don't think that makes the decks that want her stronger, if that makes sense.
Angry Grimace
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Day's Undoing is a wildly fluctuating card. If you draft a super aggressive deck, it's pure card advantage. If you draft a slow controlling deck it's just mediocre at best. It's a constructed card, plain and simple.
shrapnelmagnet
Member
Yeah, I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't missing something.
Am I crazy for not putting Blue into one of these two 2HG decks? I mean, Thopter Spy Network seems like a bomb, and I have 3 Aeronauts. It just doesn't seem THAT deep and all the other colours feel like they need help. Fuck, I'm bad at this, lol
BLUE
Artificer's Epiphany
Aspiring Aeronaut x3
Calculated Dismissal
Claustrophobia
Day's Undoing
Deep Sea Terror
Dreadwaters x2
Hydrolash
Maritime Guard
Negate x2
Psychic Rebuttal
Scrapskin Drake
Send to Sleep
Stratus Walk
Thopter Spy Network
Watercourser
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I'm actually disappointed. Wanted a modern frame original art.
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