charlequin
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I'll let the rest of you hash out the overall contents but I'd suggest big image links right at the top to download/learn about Duels, the New Player page, and the WotC info page for the prerelease/launch party events.
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Magic: the Gathering |OT4| Izzet Me; Izzet You? A Love Story
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SigmasonicX
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I think it's fine for the OT to get buried when there aren't any spoilers; it'd just be bumped up when new spoilers come. I just feel that since, as you guys mentioned, we get a bunch of card and mechanic reveals at PAX, creating the thread after that point would be like missing part of spoiler season.
Anyway, to clean things up, I suppose I could remove "What to expect", "What not to expect", and the Old Fogey section of the "Recent changes" section--I do feel it's worth pointing out the block structure change.
And got it, I'll move the beginner stuff to the beginning and emphasize it more. I'll edit the post later.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
One problem is that you want to show how cool Battle for Zendikar is gonna be, but there's only so much you can have written before the blowout at PAX to learn about stuff being added to the game.
The big thing that isn't already there is more stuff on prereleases - these are huge events for casual players and are often the only tournaments that a lot of casual players ever play in.
The big thing that isn't already there is more stuff on prereleases - these are huge events for casual players and are often the only tournaments that a lot of casual players ever play in.
shrapnelmagnet
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Could also mention the MTGO release dates if we know them.
keeblerdrow
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VERSUS
Which one of the better mill deck? And is it pretty apparent the power plays in each deck?
Cause casting Life's Legacy to sack a Chasm Skulker with 8 +1/+1 counters on it with even one tutelage in play is a beating.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
My 2 cents on the OT is that it's way, way too long. Maybe cut everything from Old Fogeys on, as it's all pretty specific questions and the thread isn't going to big enough for us to get "tired" of answering FAQs.
Maybe they've already printed the silver bullet. If the lands transform into creatures by first exiling themselves and then subsequently returning as the creature form Hallowed Moonlight would interact favorably. Hallowed Moonlight would also put those lands into exile where they could then be interacted with by Oblivion Sower.
If we're only going to get a week outside of Community to draw in new eyes I'd say put it within a week of prerelease. That's only if we're actually limited to a week though.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
SigmasonicX
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Ah, nice. I'll be sure to replace my images with those. Thanks!
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I'm just here so I don't get DQ'd, boss.
charlequin
Banned
Yeah, but if you put the thread up after the PAX blowout, you can incorporate a pretty good picture of the set into the OP, which will make it a better resource for new arrivals IMO.
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Transhuman
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Just move the day before playa.
SigmasonicX
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Thinking about it more, it probably is better to make the thread before the "official spoiler season" instead of PAX, if only because of that odd week in between without spoilers, where it would be unclear if we should keep posting in the OT or in here. That does mean I should probably leave a bit of room in the OP to describe the set, then.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
It's to get casual players interested at the right time.
"God's Beard!"
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12-year-old from my LGS destroying GP San Diego right now.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I had a dream last night that the Eldrazi were invading Texas, although it was apparently supposed to be Zendikar (Zendikar looks like Texas I guess).
We couldn't figure out how to stop Emrakul because he could move 1000 mph so it was impossible to hit him with our guns or magic.
Somehow this involved downhill skiing.
We couldn't figure out how to stop Emrakul because he could move 1000 mph so it was impossible to hit him with our guns or magic.
Somehow this involved downhill skiing.
SigmasonicX
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Well, I suppose five (+ mana and stuff to sacrifice) of these could beat Emrakul.
Feed Ted Cruz to the Eldrazi. Eldrazi die from bullshit poisoning. Win!
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I don't even live in Texas, Zendikar just looked like what I imagine Texas looks like.
Emrakul shoots lasers, btw
Emrakul shoots lasers, btw
divisionbyzorro
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As a Texan, I can promise it's a lot less exciting than the rumors would have you believe.
helloresolven
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WotC should really demand that their GP events that are broadcasted on Twitch have better production / graphics than Channel Fireball's current ones. It looks like the graphic designer who made some of the backdrops just read some Photoshop tutorials online and called it quits.
Can't say WotC does any better lol. I prefer the ones I saw on Cfb over the cg terribleness of Pro Tour.
Unless you mean specifically for the matches, which I don't think anyone rivals Scg in terms of aesthetics.
Edit: I did find it pretty funny that Lsv had to explain how the dot=win system works a couple times, even changing how they
looked by having sockets for the dots halfway through the tournament.
Royal_Flush
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Watching the SCG Legacy tournament; why would you ever think Cunninc Wish was a good card to make. That guy has a wish-board with him. Legacy is a really weird (but pleasently diverse) format...
The "wish-board" is just his normal sideboard
Royal_Flush
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Ah, ok. Didn't catch that.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Full standard season burnout has set in.
No more Rhinos please.
No more Rhinos please.
When they were printed, there were "real" hiders like Boil, Karma, Circles of Protection, Compost, Choke, ect. You were loosing a significant weapon if you wanted to play Wishes.
This might impact the wishes' viability if they ended up getting reprinted, since it isn't like you have to give up valuable SB slots for cards that can downright shut down a whole color by themselves. Stuff such as Choke, Chill and CoPs were really crazy back in the day.
Mulligans burn even more knowing that Wizards is just dragging their feet on something that is inevitable.
Joe Molotov
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My opponent and I both mulled 4 times (and I mulled once extra) one game today. Feels good, man.
charlequin
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What do you mean splitting? We're just (trying out) syncing OT refreshes to the set release schedule.
I think there are legit concerns about the way the first cycle work in terms of bringing them back (especially given how they feel about tutors these days) but I'd like to see the mechanic again on something less goofy than a 10-drop eldrazi.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
For some reason I thought wish effects allowed you to grab stuff from exile as well, but looking over the comp rules it looks like not?
SigmasonicX
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Wait, that's it!
One thing I've been unsure about with this project is how to handle having both an OT thread and a community thread. I previously rejected the idea of moving the current community thread to OT due to the intimidation factor for new people. The solution I was working with was to transfer activity to the OT when it starts up, then transfer it back to community after spoiler season ends, then transfer it back to the OT when "Sweat" spoilers start, then come back to the community.
But a better solution may be to close this community thread when the OT opens, move the OT to community when spoiler season ends, move it back to OT when "Sweat" spoilers start, then move it back to community. And if that works out, we repeat for "Tears". The only thing lost by this process, compared to having two separate threads, is that we probably won't have 400 page topics anymore.
From your post, I'm guessing this is what you already had in mind, but I just realized this possibility.
I believe that's how it worked when the exile zone was instead the "removed from the game" zone.
Ah, ok- that's way better! Thought we were going to have two threads going - one rotating FGW-style thread in OT that moves to community a month after set release? Sounds good!
Yeah, I think you do need to adjust some of them (potentially all) cost/ability-wise when they come back.
helloresolven
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UR Mill in GP San Diego finals 
Lazy vs Crazy
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Mill deck in the gp finals!
Infinite Stars
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Is this Christmas? Because these finals are that kind of insanity I like. Mill vs Constellation potentially.
"God's Beard!"
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Let's go mill! Fuck Constellation >:-|
Infinite Stars
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I never really got Constellation as a deck. I mean, I understand it, but it seems to have too many pieces for me to root for it.
UR Mill though is my jam, though I'm betting it will be a one hit wonder. I can't see it really working after this, because it going this well means most decks are going to be packing specific enchantment hate for it's one win condition.
UR Mill though is my jam, though I'm betting it will be a one hit wonder. I can't see it really working after this, because it going this well means most decks are going to be packing specific enchantment hate for it's one win condition.
keeblerdrow
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Took down Game Day today with Naya Devotion. Hard. There was only one deck all day that was even giving me a challenge. I also found out the general consensus of those who play with me regularly is that they are all scared to death of my deck and my experience playing it. Can't deny that finding that out felt really really good.
Haven't been able to catch up on the GP coverage yet, but I'm hoping these results don't further push Jace's price up. I still want a playset cause I'm super interested in playing a mill strategy.
Haven't been able to catch up on the GP coverage yet, but I'm hoping these results don't further push Jace's price up. I still want a playset cause I'm super interested in playing a mill strategy.
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