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Magic: the Gathering |OT4| Izzet Me; Izzet You? A Love Story
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I'm guessing Zendikar will primarily be in Bant colors (green, white, blue) and Eldrazi will primarily be in Jund colors (black, red, green).
We already know that allies are going to be in green white and that Eldrazi are going to be in red black based on the preview cards in the duel deck. Blue doesn't really make much sense for the Eldrazi from a flavor standpoint and we know from the story, and art shown that Gideon, Nissa, Jace and Kiora are depicted on cards and they all fit into Bant colors.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I'm guessing Zendikar will primarily be in Bant colors (green, white, blue) and Eldrazi will primarily be in Jund colors (black, red, green).
We already know that allies are going to be in green white and that Eldrazi are going to be in red black based on the preview cards in the duel deck. Blue doesn't really make much sense for the Eldrazi from a flavor standpoint and we know from the story, and art shown that Gideon, Nissa, Jace and Kiora are depicted on cards and they all fit into Bant colors.
Forgot about that, yeah.
Yeah, that could be constructed playable if there's enough colorless dudes around it (Hangarback Walker is one of them, of course)
A Serious Man
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He was either trying to force the person to his left into blue or knew it was going to get cut pretty hard. Even then, why not take the removal?
EDIT: Or he's just super committed to aggro.
Yea, there was also a cruel revival in that pack -_-
SigmasonicX
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Interesting that the Hero of Goma Fada uses an ability word for the ally ability, "rally". I guess it makes sense to emphasize what's going on with the ally cards.
EDIT: Wait, rally.
EDIT: Wait, rally.
"God's Beard!"
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To be fair I like all the art on the new Eldrazi cards.
The Technomancer
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I'll be disappointed if the Eldrazi are restricted to certain colors. Devoid is already playing dangerously with 'colorless but not really" and if they're restricted in mana colors used to summon them as well then there's really not that much difference between them and Esper artifact creatures other than Esper creatures being targettable by things that hit artifacts and Eldrazi being targettable by things that hit colorless
Now if every Eldrazi has a different color alignment or something (Ulamog is R/B/G, Kozilek is U/W and Emrakrul is B/U/G or something) that might be okay
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
That brought up an interesting question to me, which is whether cards can be reprinted without the ability word they were originally printed with (since ability words are functionally meaningless and just group cards with similar functionality together) or vice versa - for example, Zendikar's Roil has Landfall, but its not actually in Zendikar and therefore doesn't have the Landfall reminder text. If it was printed in BFZ, it would almost certainly just have Landfall.
The Technomancer
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I don't think either side will be restricted from any of the colors outright, but for limited purposes they need to be focused in particular colors for the faction vs. faction thing to come through in gameplay. Much the way slivers were in all colors in M14 but primarily in Naya, I think we'll see allies and Eldrazi in all colors, but primarily in certain colors for draft purposes.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I would say green Eldrazi make no sense except there already was a green Eldrazi in ROE.
A Serious Man
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Just looking at it from a flavor/story perspective, I could see B/R have the meat of the Eldrazi cards in this set with the idea being that the Eldrazi have "consumed" those colors on Zendikar and are coming for the others. I assume the Eldrazi will fuck up Zendikar pretty good so the second set could see them moving into green and the other colors, possibly setting up a 5 color(less) archetype.
Angry Grimace
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I imagine they'll just be scattered around in all colors. I'm not sure how well they can really spread around Landfall, Allies and Eldrazi in all 5 colors though.
A Serious Man
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That last Manfield/Muller round was fucking brutal.
The Technomancer
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So the mechanics are Allies, Landfall, Devoid, Awaken and we assume Eldrazi Spawn? If I had to guess Landfall and Devoid are across all five colors and Awaken, Allies and Eldrazi Spawn are color focused.
Don't forget about the Rally mechanic on Allies.
It looks like Rally is just the old ally mechanic, but with an ability word added to help make it more noticeable.
Sure, but it's an actual keyword mechanic that's in the set so it should be noted alongside the others.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
What he's saying is that Allies basically work identically to how they did in ZEN-WWK, they just added an ability word for the triggers on ETB. Allies and Rally aren't separate "mechanics" so to speak.
I don't really see Allies as a 'mechanic' so much as they're a theme/archetype. *shrug* Semantics, I suppose.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Well Allies don't have any reason to exist beyond Tribal synergy though - when they said "Allies are coming back!" we basically correctly took it to mean the mechanics from ZEN/WWK - which worked mostly exactly like Rally, just without a keyword. Its not really any more or less complicated than any other tribal stuff.
Yeah, I guess since I wasn't playing during the original Zendikar block they don't register as anything other than a creature type to me. I'm sure that'll change in a hurry once BFZ hits. Can it be prerelease weekend already?
divisionbyzorro
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Oh look. It's a baby Dreamstone Hedron.
Hedron Archive (4)
Artifact
{T}: Add (2) to your mana pool.
(2), {T}, Sacrifice ~: Draw two cards
Uncommon
Hedron Archive (4)
Artifact
{T}: Add (2) to your mana pool.
(2), {T}, Sacrifice ~: Draw two cards
Uncommon
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Double Mind Stone!
This is what they decided to spoil during the WC? Booooorrring. Give me a giant durdly creature already.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The interesting thing about the spoiler is that I kind of thought that without Annihilator, the Eldrazi would be more reasonably costed (the way Oblivion Sower is), but it sounds like there's still plenty of big fuck-off huge dudes.
divisionbyzorro
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Owen Turtenwald: "I strongly believe that Demonic Pact is better than any uncommon or common in the set, but I didn't take it because I thought the Consul's Lieutenant gave me a better chance of not having a train wreck draft."
I swear I heard a Kappa while he was talking.
I swear I heard a Kappa while he was talking.
The Technomancer
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Dat flavor text. Ugh fuck off Jace we get it, you're snarky and edgy
EDIT: Why is Jace's shirt made of belts?
The Technomancer
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At a guess Eldrazi spawn are back in order to allow you to ramp into big dudes, but big dudes aren't as common as they were before (or Common, rather). I'm guessing a bunch of slots that are normally 5-6 mana Uncommons and Rares are now 8-10 mana
Tetsuya Nomura was the guest Art Director for BFZ.
Nomura. Somehow, it's Nomura's fault.
shrapnelmagnet
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SigmasonicX
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Rolling Thunder reprint.
EDIT: Late.
The Technomancer
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Now that's interesting. That suggests more of a push towards fatties then I was expecting. How do you balance that on the non-Eldrazi side without levellers though?
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