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[Firemind]

U/R Elementals is actually a lot better than I expected it to be when I saw the spoilers.

Incandescent Soulstoke is pretty nuts in that deck. Smokebraiders almost always table and allow you to do things like play Mulldrifter for full retail on turn 3 consistently. I think, moreso than a lot of the other decks, it's dependent on the uncommons.

I played a lot of Lorwyn block limited back in the day and Smokebraider always seemed subpar because Elementals were one of the worst tribal archetypes despite changelings existing. And it's a 1/1 for two. Mulldrifters just got played in the Merfolk and Faerie decks. The elementals don't seem too hot in MM2 either but maybe I'm wrong.

The fact that Vegas is at a standstill because they're out of paper because they printed deck registration sheets for THE WRONG MODERN MASTERS is hilarious.

Haha, oh wow. Please tell me this is true.

My favourite general is this guy:

Repeatable tutor effect in red and Sneak Attack? Sign me up!

Spoiler

Scion of the Ur Dragon is dumb

 

[Angry Grimace]

As an aside, I never played Innistrad Limited enough to see it, but Olivia Voldaren seems like she'd be Drana-levels of unfair in Limited.

 

[Exokell]

As an aside, I never played Innistrad Limited enough to see it, but Olivia Voldaren seems like she'd be Drana-levels of unfair in Limited.

shes ok, now gnaw the bone/spider spawning...thats what I call a bomb.

 

[Firemind]

Got a pretty bad pool. No removal, Gohei, Tezzeret. Got five bouncelands tho.

Luckily it's only my registration pool.

 

[y2dvd]

The MtG gods continues to curse me. Another person sitting direct next to me pulls a Goyf in draft. That's the third time. I get to P1P1 and P2P1 rares that were .50 each and I had to pass my third rare for a common. Le sigh.

 

[Sequence Six]

Just reply to this with your favorite EDH commander

Diaochan, Artful Beauty. Politics is the only reason I play these days. I'll be able to put her back together this summer, I hope.

 

[Firemind]

Got passed another Tezzeret. :lol

Still playing him since he can fetch Blinding Soul Eaters.

Haven't seen one Nameless Inversion in both pools. Incredible.

Probably not going to make day two. No money rares either. Oh well.

 

[kirblar]

The MKM lawsuit story- what in the F is wrong with European business courts? http://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/37tqqa/how_selling_magic_cards_might_land_me_in_jail/

 

[Yeef]

That's pretty nuts.

 

[ironmang]

The MKM lawsuit story- what in the F is wrong with European business courts? http://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/37tqqa/how_selling_magic_cards_might_land_me_in_jail/

Ya I just read that and was going to comment here asking if this is common over there. That's some movie of the week villain type shit.

 

[kirblar]

Ya I just read that and was going to comment here asking if this is common over there. That's some movie of the week villain type shit.

The post claiming that the owner passed the store to his wife while he declared bankruptcy would make everything here make more sense- it'd be like those porno extortion letters for people who torrented.

 

[blindrocket]

Silly Grixis player thought he'd drop a Blood Moon on me playing Jund. Then I played Olivia Voldaren and he was sad. It was glorious.

I don't know about Dark Confidant in this deck. It seems like it just makes you die a lot.

I definitely see Dark Confidant falling out of favor from where he used to be. Just considering the new Delve creatures people may want to run in Jund/Rock type decks where DC was a staple at one time.

That still doesn't mean I don't want to finish my playset of him. I only have one Ravnica DC and I'd love three more. Damn his price.

Speaking of price, I was looking at building Grixis Twin as I only lack a very few cards, and damn, Kolaghan's Command has spiked in price. That's what I get for waiting...

 

[kirblar]

DC's been out of favor in Modern Jund (and the format in general) for over a year now.

 

[blindrocket]

DC's been out of favor in Modern Jund (and the format in general) for over a year now.

I know that. And the price has dropped quite a bit from where he was what, an $80 card? Now he's like $60, I think. But I'd like for it to drop more just so I can not feel so bad buying three more just to have and play around with.

 

[kirblar]

He's 40 or less atm

 

[OnPoint]

I know that. And the price has dropped quite a bit from where he was what, an $80 card? Now he's like $60, I think. But I'd like for it to drop more just so I can not feel so bad buying three more just to have and play around with.

I have one I'd be willing to trade, pm me a list if you have one

 

[blindrocket]

He's 40 or less atm

I should watch this, I suppose:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dark-Confid...03f8c14&pid=100034&rk=8&rkt=8&sd=231577808042


I just did a search because I knew we had discussed this before.

Bob + Tasigur = lol

Don't forget Rhino. Maybe Bob will fall off now.

Was already falling off prior to TC being banned- he's too vulnerable and grindy.

We will definitely see Rhino. (Liked that Chapin pointed to it being a major cause of the Pod ban- not many people have picked up on that on the mainstream sites.)

It feels like Tasigur is stronger than Bob. I could see people straight-up replacing their 4 bobs with 3 Tasigur and a 1-of. I don't see Bob earning you that much more card advantage than Tasigur would in any given game, and Tasigur is way more threatening and without the life loss.

4 mana trigger? Nah.

Dark Confidant gives you cards for free. I don't think any of the big decks I'm expecting to see at the PT can afford to take life loss from Dark Confidant though. The old Jund build that's turned to Junk just runs Scoozes and Rhinos.

I'm just saying that I don't see many scenarios where I'd rather have a Bob out than a Tasigur, and they can easily have the same mana cost, plus or minus 1. There are probably some decks that would rather have the 2/1, but it feels like the 4/5 would be better for most decks with black (and easier to build around too).

I love Tasigur but a Thoughtseize or IoK followed by a Bob is a much stronger scenario in modern.

As for modern removal cards that can deal with Rhino and Tasigur, the only ones I can think of that are used are Path, Cut and maybe Maelstrom Pulse.

Tasigur is really more of a Goyf than a Bob. Although, Tasigur is kind of a nonbo with Bob, so there's that.

 

[ironmang]

With all the negatives, Bob is still a must-kill whenever it resolves.

Against burn you'll probably end up chumping or trading with the first available creature G1 so it's not the nightmare people try to make it out to be.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Landcyclers plus vengeful rebirth is the mondo combo. I'm really loving the ramp decks in MM2.

Playing a 10/10 on turn five in limited is sweet.

 

[The Technomancer]

Goddamn my friends back home drafted their box last night and cracked a Goyf, a Karn and two Cliques. I really wish I could have been there :/

 

[kirblar]

I keep getting reminded of selling the JACE JACE FOIL JACE SFM FOIL SFM box to my buddies when people talk about their hauls from this set.

 

[Firemind]

The MKM lawsuit story- what in the F is wrong with European business courts? http://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/37tqqa/how_selling_magic_cards_might_land_me_in_jail/

I think it's more to do with wacky German laws. (See: gambling and depiction of blood in video games.)

I know that guy though. He has my sympathies.

 

[ironmang]

Do you guys know where to find the standings for GP Vegas? Looking to keep up with how some friends are doing without texting them every hour.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Starting to figure out what makes the ramp deck click :3
2-1 this time, with my only game losses being a 1-2 to UW metalcraft with my opponent at 5 seconds.

The Savage Twister -> Vengeful Rebirth combo locks out games goddamn. Nothing like watching your opponent set up the perfect blocks to kill my Pelakka Wurm just for me to follow it up with a 14/14 Hydra.

I think that's why I always love ramp decks in limited. People just scoop to big stuff. Alloy Myr keeps going down in my pick order, though. Sylvan Bounty keeps going up. Cathodian overperformed, I almost cut him from the deck as well so I'm glad I didn't. Got me a turn-4 Pelakka.

 

[Lazy vs Crazy]

Do you guys know where to find the standings for GP Vegas? Looking to keep up with how some friends are doing without texting them every hour.

http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/gpveg15-1
http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/gpveg15-2

I don't know if they have a list up of who got sorted into which tournament yet.

 

[Firemind]

Ramp scoops to Mirran Crusader.

That guy has been doing work all day. Also Blinding Souls and Air Servants. Lost one time to All Sun's Dawn tho or whatever it's called. Regrowth back five cards is pretty nutsy. D:

 

[ironmang]

http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/gpveg15-1
http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/gpveg15-2

I don't know if they have a list up of who got sorted into which tournament yet.

Thanks

 

["God's Beard!"]

Ramp scoops to Mirran Crusader.

That guy has been doing work all day. Also Blinding Souls and Air Servants. Lost one time to All Sun's Dawn tho or whatever it's called. Regrowth back five cards is pretty nutsy. D:

I beat Mirran Crusader with my straight GB version. Eldrazi tokens too beast

 

[Angry Grimace]

I definitely see Dark Confidant falling out of favor from where he used to be. Just considering the new Delve creatures people may want to run in Jund/Rock type decks where DC was a staple at one time.

That still doesn't mean I don't want to finish my playset of him. I only have one Ravnica DC and I'd love three more. Damn his price.

Speaking of price, I was looking at building Grixis Twin as I only lack a very few cards, and damn, Kolaghan's Command has spiked in price. That's what I get for waiting...

I legitimately think the fact I don't like him is because I'm a noob at playing with him and get scare that he's killing me. I kept playing him and he absolutely won me games on his own.

The biggest problem I'm having now is that I like playing Jund more than Abzan, but Abzan seems like it has a lot better answers to the problem decks of the format because White tends to be an answer color with stuff like Stony Silence, Leylines, etc.

 

[ElyrionX]

I legitimately think the fact I don't like him is because I'm a noob at playing with him and get scare that he's killing me. I kept playing him and he absolutely won me games on his own.

The biggest problem I'm having now is that I like playing Jund more than Abzan, but Abzan seems like it has a lot better answers to the problem decks of the format because White tends to be an answer color with stuff like Stony Silence, Leylines, etc.

Red's power has also diminished signifcantly because bolt does not answer as many creatures as it used to, ie. Rhino and Tasigur.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Red's power has also diminished signifcantly because bolt does not answer as many creatures as it used to, ie. Rhino and Tasigur.

Actually it answers more if you include all the collected company decks popping up. That's why a lot of players are swapping from Junk to Jund. Modern is in a slight shift at the moment, so it's hard to say how important cards like Lightning Bolt and Dark Confidant are until the next couple months have sorted it out.

I kinda want to turn my Twin deck into straight Grixis midrange with Dark Confidants and Snapcasters and Cliques alongside Terminates and Inquisitions.

 

[WanderingWind]

It's fun to see the waning/waxing of Bolt when Path just stays being the actual best removal spell in Modern. The card is almost never, ever useless.

I hates it.

 

[TheSeks]

I want to play drafts online, but not for ~$15.

Oh when will Wizards let me do Dollar Drafts while pounding Dollar Drafts at a bar?

 

[acheron_xl]

I want to play drafts online, but not for ~$15.

Oh when will Wizards let me do Dollar Drafts while pounding Dollar Drafts at a bar?

That's what phantom events are for, aren't they?

 

["God's Beard!"]

New record!

That's what phantom events are for, aren't they?

Yeah, all my MM2 drafts have been phantoms I've chained together, but I'm crapped out now with 10 phantom points remaining.

 

[Etrian Oddity]

Stupid Brain Maggot exiling my next-turn-game-winning Atarka.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Reprint Baleful Strix into Standard

Wizards pls

 

[acheron_xl]

[QUOTE="God's Beard!";165804374]Reprint Baleful Strix into Standard

Wizards pls[/QUOTE]

Return to Alara can't be far behind.

 

[Firemind]

I made day two. 7-2 :lol :lol :lol

I can post my deck and pool if anyone's interested. Made some deckbuilding errors which I had to correct after every g1.

I have zero experience in MM2015 draft tho. GB halp

 

[divisionbyzorro]

I made day two. 7-2 :lol :lol :lol

I can post my deck and pool if anyone's interested. Made some deckbuilding errors which I had to correct after every g1.

I have zero experience in MM2015 draft tho. GB halp

Way to go! I'd love to see your pool.

Also, if you get lucky enough to find yourself in a feature match, you have to tell us.

 

[charlequin]

Boo, the evergreen keywords article isn't Monday, it's the next Monday after that.

The MKM lawsuit story- what in the F is wrong with European business courts? http://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/37tqqa/how_selling_magic_cards_might_land_me_in_jail/

I'm not sure there's anywhere in the world that medium-sized businesses can't just ruin people's lives with frivolous lawsuits, sadly.

 

[Firemind]

Way to go! I'd love to see your pool.

Also, if you get lucky enough to find yourself in a feature match, you have to tell us.

I don't think X-2 will be even enough to make top 8 haha. Guess I'll go rare draft.

 

[WanderingWind]

I made day two. 7-2 :lol :lol :lol

I can post my deck and pool if anyone's interested. Made some deckbuilding errors which I had to correct after every g1.

I have zero experience in MM2015 draft tho. GB halp

Congrats bro. Just draft all the Goyfs that cross your path and you'll be fine.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

I don't think X-2 will be even enough to make top 8 haha. Guess I'll go rare draft.

If you 6-0, and your losses were late, you might have a shot. No sense giving up before you start!

 

[bigkrev]

Beginning to realize why they wait till R4 for coverage. These are some sloppy, ugly games.

 

["God's Beard!"]

I have zero experience in MM2015 draft tho. GB halp

• Take high-quality colorless cards and hard removal first like Dismember. Arrest and Narcolepsy are not mega-premium because many players will maindeck naturalize effects or have sac outlets.
• Bounce lands aren't as high a priority as you think unless you're a grindy deck, don't worry about them in the first couple packs. They can be a liability on the draw, forcing you to discard with awkward hands.
• It's fine to maindeck naturalize in this format, try to make sure you have one in the board either way.
• Colorless manafixing and ramp is huge, wayfarer's bauble is a better early pick than rampant growth.
• Take the highest raw quality cards you can early, many build around me cards are useless if you're fighting over an archetype and bombs are easily splashable.
• Overall card quality is high, so getting card advantage spells like Vengeful Rebirth or Tezzeret's Gambit can help you pull ahead in grindier games. It's easy to run out of gas and get run over by Ulamog's Crusher.
• Save your removal as long as possible. Your opponent's deck will have one or two crazy cards. Every deck has Ulamog's Crusher as flood insurance, so watch out.
• There are a surprising number of low toughness creatures, so don't be afraid to take mortarpod or an off-color gutshot for the board. Similarly, Skyreach manta can be a fine sideboard card against spirits or metalcraft even as a 2/2 or 3/3.
• Again, don't get too greedy with engine cards like Bloodthrone Vampire or Metalcraft stuff until you know it's open. And no, Tukatongue Thalid is not a good card in any deck.
• Try to prioritize the high quality stuff at lower mana costs, the set is full of 6+ mana bombs but not so many Nest Invaders and Sunspear Shikaris.
• Use your removal on your own turn if possible. The set is full of protection spells and Apostle's Blessing is a colorless card so a RB Bloodthirst deck can still blow you out and lose you the game.

Important cards for my two favorite archetypes in my experience:

Tokens: Scavenger Drake and Algae Gharial are the cards that make the deck tick. Without them you're just a bad ramp deck. Play as many Nest Invaders as you can pick up. They'll trade with low drops while ramping you into your engine cards.

Ramp: Vengeful Rebirth and Sylvan Bounty are both key cards. Sylvan Bounty is huge because the ramp deck tends to play 3+ colors and double or triple splash bombs, and it will save your life against aggro in the late game. Vengeful Rebirth combos with the landcycling for an efficient 6-point burn spell, but more often it lets you witness back a savage twister or Pelakka Wurm. Cards like Nest Invader are good in this deck, but colorless ramp is better because you're going to play a ton of colors and won't have the right sources early on. It means the difference between great hands and hands where the majority of your cards are uncastable. Have a way to kill fliers in your deck. Once you hit a certain density of artifact-based mana fixing, the colorless domain cards can become nutty. Don't rely on basic lands for splashing in a 16-land deck, though. It will mess up your hands.

 

[darkside31337]

1500+ people dropping out of GP Vegas before the 1st round began is honestly embarrassing to the game. They should really change something regarding pool registration. Not sure what the ideal solution is but the way it is right now is definitely not it.

 

[kirblar]

1500+ people dropping out of GP Vegas before the 1st round began is honestly embarrassing to the game. They should really change something regarding pool registration. Not sure what the ideal solution is but the way it is right now is definitely not it.

You have to preregister every pool.

 

[darkside31337]

You have to preregister every pool.

I know. I just find it ridiculous that folks drop out during deck registration because the pool they opened is worth money and they don't want to pass it on. Find it even more absurd that this is a commonly accepted practice by everyone involved.

 

[charlequin]

I know. I just find it ridiculous that folks drop out during deck registration because the pool they opened is worth money and they don't want to pass it on. Find it even more absurd that this is a commonly accepted practice by everyone involved.

It's like intentional draws -- whatever principle it might offend to allow it, the alternative is rampant misbehavior that's extremely difficult to police.