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Magic: the Gathering |OT4| Izzet Me; Izzet You? A Love Story
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This is why I never understood draft as a format. There eill always be moments like this happening and people dropping because of it.
MM2015 is a bit of an exception though. A number of people only registered because the entry fee for trials and side events is actually cheaper than buying packs from a store, and a lot of mythics and rares in MM2015 are in demand. I saw people dropping even before they opened the packs. smh
"God's Beard!"
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LSV teaching Grimace and I how to draft(grimace said GW is bad and I said tukatongue was unplayable):
It's possible to win on turn 4 with this deck through multiple blockers lol
You missed your shot on eternals a while ago, but edh stuff will die about a week after rotation. Stuff like Blood Baron of Viskopa went from 20 bucks to 2 over a couple month period.
It's possible to win on turn 4 with this deck through multiple blockers lol
You missed your shot on eternals a while ago, but edh stuff will die about a week after rotation. Stuff like Blood Baron of Viskopa went from 20 bucks to 2 over a couple month period.
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";166014170]You missed your shot on eternals a while ago, but edh stuff will die about a week after rotation.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, unfortunately I wasn't around for peak supply on Theros block but I did manage to get a playset of Thoughtseize for $50 several months ago so I lucked out there. What other eternal playables will I be missing? I'm not super familiar with what Modern decklists look like so I'm not sure which cards I should be trading into or buying if I find at value. The few that I'm aware of would be:
Anger of the Gods, Master of Waves, Eidolon of the Great Revel, Keranos, Temple of Enlightenment, Chord of Calling, Urborg, and maybe Brimaz?
Yeah, unfortunately I wasn't around for peak supply on Theros block but I did manage to get a playset of Thoughtseize for $50 several months ago so I lucked out there. What other eternal playables will I be missing? I'm not super familiar with what Modern decklists look like so I'm not sure which cards I should be trading into or buying if I find at value. The few that I'm aware of would be:
Anger of the Gods, Master of Waves, Eidolon of the Great Revel, Keranos, Temple of Enlightenment, Chord of Calling, Urborg, and maybe Brimaz?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Chord is probably a safe bet to pick up now since its like $4 and seeing more playing the CoCo deck in Modern. Keranos barely sees play but he might go up simply because he's a Mythic in an otherwise horrific third-set.
Most of those I see just holding and going up rather slowly since none of them are key players in Tier 1 decks, they're either sideboard stuff or key players in Tier 2 decks.
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";166014170]LSV teaching Grimace and I how to draft(grimace said GW is bad and I said tukatongue was unplayable):
It's possible to win on turn 4 with this deck through multiple blockers lol
You missed your shot on eternals a while ago, but edh stuff will die about a week after rotation. Stuff like Blood Baron of Viskopa went from 20 bucks to 2 over a couple month period.[/QUOTE]
You also concede on the spot to Savage Twister X=3, and the 3 is only necessary if you have Fortify. I just hate the deck because it needs to set up for a big turn and its hard to keep pushing through to get that big turn going.
Most of those I see just holding and going up rather slowly since none of them are key players in Tier 1 decks, they're either sideboard stuff or key players in Tier 2 decks.
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";166014170]LSV teaching Grimace and I how to draft(grimace said GW is bad and I said tukatongue was unplayable):
It's possible to win on turn 4 with this deck through multiple blockers lol
You missed your shot on eternals a while ago, but edh stuff will die about a week after rotation. Stuff like Blood Baron of Viskopa went from 20 bucks to 2 over a couple month period.[/QUOTE]
You also concede on the spot to Savage Twister X=3, and the 3 is only necessary if you have Fortify. I just hate the deck because it needs to set up for a big turn and its hard to keep pushing through to get that big turn going.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I think that card is probably a hold, especially since Enchantment Creature probably means its extremely unlikely to see a reprint any time soon.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Not even a question. They'll never print anything like that again and it's going to be a staple in RDW for a long, long time. Casual players drive the prices of decks more than anything else and they love them some RDW/burn.
Keep for 100 percent, no qualifications.
Trust me. I'm a shark. I don't have a neck.
Keep it, especially since some more decks seem to discover it. At least i have seen some Zoo lists that use it already.
Somebody help me, I'm thinking about buying a Duel Deck Anthology Ancestral Vision because it has the colour identity symbol instead of "Ancestral Vision is blue" text (I hate this), I need someone to remind me the new frame is horrible.
It also says exile instead of remove from the game.
But that new frame
Also why won't they release a modern frame RKF Earthquake?
It also says exile instead of remove from the game.
But that new frame
Also why won't they release a modern frame RKF Earthquake?
Joe Molotov
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4 Eidolons 4 life
That's the kind of life I'm about.
That's the kind of life I'm about.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Literally anyone that is upset in any way about this happening is a pitiful human being. It was funny that it happened, period. Its just a funny story. If the pack rare was a Mirror Entity or a Mirran Crusader something completely swingy and bomby, it would be a bigger story to me, but still just a funny one.
Meanwhile, these guys are super chummy with people who've been DQ'd for straight-up cheating and jerkasses like Craig Wescoe who once got a dude DQ'd from qualifying for the top 8 of a GP for taking his friend on a $10 bet that he'd win the tournament.
If the argument is that it ruins the integrity of the game, then it's time to change how drafting works.
That way you don't need to rare draft and you keep the crap you open.
- Everyone opens their packs and writes the contents down, verifies with judge
- You pass and draft as normal
- You write the contents of your drafted deck down and verify with judge
- Play the games
- Return all cards to judges, with check in
- Everyone gets their opened cards back
That way you don't need to rare draft and you keep the crap you open.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Not to mention some of the guys whining about the integrity of the game are sponsored by CFB and TCGplayer.
Yeah, I'm sure being paid to play Magic while being given every card you need and an infinite playtest group consisting of other pros is perfectly aligned with the "integrity" of your magic fairy spell casting game.
Dipshits.
Yeah, I'm sure being paid to play Magic while being given every card you need and an infinite playtest group consisting of other pros is perfectly aligned with the "integrity" of your magic fairy spell casting game.
Dipshits.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
It doesn't ruin the integrity of the game though. The fact that you can rare-draft is seriously a part of what makes drafting fun for a lot of people - most people who draft are bad at limited in reality.
In many LSV online drafts he's like "Yeah, this is 12 tickets, we're taking it."
GregLombardi
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lol.
with such a popular game, Wizards is damned if they do, damned if they don't as far as value cards are concerned.
Also, old super powerful cards are probably never going to be reprinted in any major capacity.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Yeah, exactly. There are only two sides of this haterade being drank. 1) They wished they opened a foil Goyf and 2) what kirblar said.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
If you look at what Brian Kibler is saying on Twitter he pretty much just says exactly what I am thinking. Which probably isn't surprising given Kibler is vaguely famous for being well-adjusted as far as Magic players go.
This is the worst "pro controversy" since people got actual-mad at Ari Lax for being happy while winning a fucking Pro Tour.
Wow, what a dick. Wizards should be ashamed too. At the GP last weekend, I used coins as counters in a casual game. A judge saw it and he said I can't use coins as counters and I should take it away from the table. I was like: "Seriously?"
They'll just replace it with Snapcaster Mage, which will probably be just as expensive in 2 years...
Or Liliana
"God's Beard!"
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Modern Masters 2017, featuring Stoneforge Mystic and Mental Misstep.
Keru_Shiri
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Fixed (lol, yeah right...)
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Or Serum Visions.
Maybe they should be criticizing the shitty payout. 4k GP with T8 only guaranteed $1k? Not to mention he can sell that goyf NOW rather than waiting forever for the tournament pay.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Huey and Owen look even more like utterly pathetic douchebags considering Pascal's response:
In the comments, he noted that he already had to not attend a couple of GP because he's broke.
In the comments, he noted that he already had to not attend a couple of GP because he's broke.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Wescoe's comment in reply to Pascal's repsonse:
"I'm still going to troll you about it at every opportunity, but I knew why you took it as soon as I heard about it. You skipped GPs this year because you couldn't afford the travel expenses and at the beginning of the weekend you told me you were skipping some of the final 4 GPs of the year for the same reason, despite being in 2nd place for the worlds slot. It's easy for someone who can afford to attend every GP to judge you, but I won't judge you because I know your situation. I just hope your succes this weekend means you will attend the last 4 GPs so we can have a fair race for the Worlds slot and so you can hopefully hit platinum and be able to afford to attend all the GPs next year."
Huey and Owen should feel like big fucking dicks, because they are. Something tells me they'll just defend themselves, because they seemed like dicks to begin with. Well, Owen at least.
"I'm still going to troll you about it at every opportunity, but I knew why you took it as soon as I heard about it. You skipped GPs this year because you couldn't afford the travel expenses and at the beginning of the weekend you told me you were skipping some of the final 4 GPs of the year for the same reason, despite being in 2nd place for the worlds slot. It's easy for someone who can afford to attend every GP to judge you, but I won't judge you because I know your situation. I just hope your succes this weekend means you will attend the last 4 GPs so we can have a fair race for the Worlds slot and so you can hopefully hit platinum and be able to afford to attend all the GPs next year."
Huey and Owen should feel like big fucking dicks, because they are. Something tells me they'll just defend themselves, because they seemed like dicks to begin with. Well, Owen at least.
I mean it's all about what people personally value right? As far as I can tell, most of the pros who disagree with Pascal's pick don't think he's a terrible person but rather value winning the GP more (more than the the $$$ value would suggest). I'm on Team Goyf BTW. I think the real issue is that payouts are too low if taking the foil Goyf is the right move EV-wise with respect to $$$.
Let's be fair, an 8-4 event on MODO doesn't actually mean anything - its no GP
Let's be fair, an 8-4 event on MODO doesn't actually mean anything - its no GP
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I honestly don't know how R&D can look at this situation and not feel sick. There is no way they're happy with this situation.
Marketing, on the other hand, is doing a little dance, making a little love and getting down tonight.
Marketing, on the other hand, is doing a little dance, making a little love and getting down tonight.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
My /tinfoilhat is that WOTC put the foil Goyf in the streamed pack on purpose.
"God's Beard!"
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Whoo, Japanese Kolaghan's Command just arrived ^_^
Can't decide if I wanna get the foreign Stoneforges and Cliques on TCGplayer yet...
If I was in charge of these things, I'd load all the packs. I don't give a fuck. Not to give advantages, but stick some sort of troll in the packs to make the puzzle harder.
Like putting in preview cards for the next set as a mindfuck.
Can't decide if I wanna get the foreign Stoneforges and Cliques on TCGplayer yet...
If I was in charge of these things, I'd load all the packs. I don't give a fuck. Not to give advantages, but stick some sort of troll in the packs to make the puzzle harder.
Like putting in preview cards for the next set as a mindfuck.
No surprises there.
I have not actually read their tweets.
"God's Beard!"
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Owen and Huey are both on my all-time top favorite pros list ^_^
styl3s
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Is it cheaper to get into Modern or Standard? to keep it short i quit constructed play like 12 years ago but have been playing limited play off and on for the last 10ish years on MTGO but MTGO is fine for that because i can draft and do sealed in the comfort of my own home and it's cheap and fine but we got a nice new store here thats big and full of enthusiastic players and it's making me want to get back to the physical game to kind of force me to go out and be social with the game.
My problem comes down to i have no idea what to play. I know Legacy/Vintage is out of the question because i don't want to set fire to my savings and i know Standard is constantly changing so much you are constantly putting money into the decks so i kind of gravitate towards modern since the card pool is so large and i can play at a competitive level (competitive as in against other players here and weekly play) without breaking the bank. A buddy of mine mentioned a "soul sister" deck since i tend to lean towards W or W/G. I'm sure you people get annoying dumb questions like this all the time.
Edit- Also, double bagging cards?? Buddy told me if i do get back into physical i should double board my cards and that confuses me since when i used to play it was you just bought sleeves and that was it. Is there a kit? preferred brand? Is there a site where i can just order it ?
My problem comes down to i have no idea what to play. I know Legacy/Vintage is out of the question because i don't want to set fire to my savings and i know Standard is constantly changing so much you are constantly putting money into the decks so i kind of gravitate towards modern since the card pool is so large and i can play at a competitive level (competitive as in against other players here and weekly play) without breaking the bank. A buddy of mine mentioned a "soul sister" deck since i tend to lean towards W or W/G. I'm sure you people get annoying dumb questions like this all the time.
Edit- Also, double bagging cards?? Buddy told me if i do get back into physical i should double board my cards and that confuses me since when i used to play it was you just bought sleeves and that was it. Is there a kit? preferred brand? Is there a site where i can just order it ?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The answer depends entirely on what deck you want to play.
dual sleeving 4 life, KMC Perfect Size sleeves (inner) with KMC Hyper Mat sleeves (outer) work best.
styl3s
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Green and White have always been my favorite colors since back in revised i love the green weenie, green/white weenie, the heal decks and even control decks but i am no stranger for goblin and burn decks or Black/Blue control.
I like to play anything that isn't overly convoluted cause i like to just have some fun. I am not looking to try and be some pro player i just wanna play at local shops and have some fun.
I will write this down and ask my shop if they have this.
Also, worth it to buy any boxes? fat packs? buy bulk common/uncommon/rare standard lots from like ebay to kind of start off the collection? i see huge common/uncommon lots for like $20-30 that come with like 800-1000 cards from all the standard sets.
Get out.
SigmasonicX
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Double sleeving cards is not necessary at all. I mean, go ahead and do it if you do not intend on taking the cards out of the sleeves, but not many people will actually care.
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