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["God's Beard!"]

Allow me to present Burnt Offering(ver. 0.1):

So I've had a new interaction bouncing in my head for the past month or two:

Using the collection of easy ways to get cards in the graveyard in Legacy, you can get a 9 CMC delve creature down incredibly early. When I discovered this interaction, I posted it here as a way to exactly cheat out Dragonstorm in EDH but I always wanted a way to use it to create a new deck type in Legacy. I'm still keeping that combo in mind, but it runs into a lot of consistency issues. Instead, I decided to create a burn deck based around Fireballs. Using Legacy Storm decks as a rough deckbuilding guide, I tried to make a two-pronged deck. It wins with a combination of big creatures that don't die to abrupt decay or lightning bolt, while supporting them with uncounterable burn powered by Offering and hand disruption to slow the game down.


There's still a lot of funkiness and awkwardness to the deck and I expect it'll take up some massive changes as I keep messing with it(probably a lot more burn and somewhat less mana ramp from my initial testing, and Urza's Rage vs Banefire is something I go back and forth on), but I thought it'd be cool to post up something brand new I've been working on. It's already stolen a couple games here and there, and if nothing else it's a bunch of laughs to play. And that's what I'm going for.

 

[manipulate]

it still seems really weird to me that there are a couple of complete colour hosers that slipped into modern

although from what i understand none of them are that relevant?

 

[divisionbyzorro]

They can definitely be relevant. The last GP I watched had Choke, Boil, Slay, and Hibernation all see play.

 

["God's Beard!"]

They can definitely be relevant. The last GP I watched had Choke, Boil, Slay, and Hibernation all see play.

that feel when you inquisition hibernation then they flip delver off hibernation :-(

 

[Matriox]

Translation per reddit:

Relic Hunter(?)

1W Creature - Human Soldier

Fame 1(?) (whenever this creature deals combat damage to a player, if there are no fame on this creature, put a +1/+1 counter on it became famous)

Whenever Relic Hunter(?) are famous you may search your library for an Equipment card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle your library.

 

[Exokell]

Are we getting more swords on the next set? Or just equipments? Cause theres no worthy equipment right now to search.

 

[Matriox]

Are we getting more swords on the next set? Or just equipments? Cause theres no worthy equipment right now to search.

Jitte!

Flying

Whenever a permanent owned by another player is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, draw a card and you lose 1 life.

 

[manipulate]

why is this a core set in everything but name? Is origins going to be annualised too?

 

[pelicansurf]

Translation per reddit:

This is an actually ok to good card. Weird.

 

[acheron_xl]

why is this a core set in everything but name? Is origins going to be annualised too?

This actually is more or less the last core set before they swallow it's slot in the release schedule with an extra normal set. They just called it Origins to make it 'special' since it's the last one.

 

[bigkrev]

why is this a core set in everything but name? Is origins going to be annualised too?

This is the last Core Set. They are switching to 4 expansions a year. They decided to call it Magic Origins instead of Magic 2016 because they thought it would be cool, nothing more.

 

[manipulate]

Haha right, that makes sense

 

[Keru_Shiri]

Relic Hunter seems pretty strong, if it's got good targets to search for, of course.

 

[GoutPatrol]

They can definitely be relevant. The last GP I watched had Choke, Boil, Slay, and Hibernation all see play.

I bought 2 Chokes at 50 cents last year when building Restore Balance and after seeing them at a couple of GPs I see they have spiked up to 8-9 bucks for very little reason. I'm just gonna assume boil will soon too.

 

[darkside31337]

Why is the art in Origins so terrible?

This shit is garbage.

 

[kirblar]

There's a lot of inarguably bad art- that seems fine tho.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Languish is insane. Great against Thunderbreak + Rabblemaster decks, fleecemane lion decks, valorous stance decks.

 

[bigkrev]

There's a lot of inarguably bad art- that seems fine tho.

Yeah, i'm getting shades of 7th Edition here, where they replaced all the art with the most basic, boring, generic art that they never used again.

[QUOTE="God's Beard!";169389844]Languish is insane. Great against Thunderbreak + Rabblemaster decks, fleecemane lion decks, valorous stance decks.[/QUOTE]

AND it misses Siege Rhino and Tasigur!

 

[Angry Grimace]

Languish. I guess they made a control card that describes their attitude towards designing control decks for the last few years.

I guess we're in the for the long haul of boring draw-go.

 

[red13th]

A whopping one spoiler today that interests me, Relic Hunter. Maybe Languish, while they don't reprint Damnation. Come on WotC.

 

[pelicansurf]

Languish. I guess they made a control card that describes their attitude towards designing control decks for the last few years.

I guess we're in the for the long haul of boring draw-go.

At least it's a sorcery? So they have to sort of tap out.

Seems like an extremely annoying card though. Devotion decks are boned, Aggro decks are boned, everything is boned.

 

[ultron87]

Interesting that other cards care about whether a card has activated its Renown ability or not.

Kind of an odd thing to put since that reads like total nonsense if you haven't seen a card with Renown yet.

 

[Angry Grimace]

At least it's a sorcery? So they have to sort of tap out.

Seems like an extremely annoying card though. Devotion decks are boned, Aggro decks are boned, everything is boned.

Literally the only thing you can do is cast Siege Rhino on turn 4. Everything else you can relevantly do dies to Languish.

 

[pelicansurf]

Literally the only thing you can do is cast Siege Rhino on the draw. Everything else you can relevantly do dies to Languish.

Yeah, seems terrible the more and more I think about it.

Jesus.

 

[darkside31337]

If Scry is in the set... why not just reprint Condescend? Or reprint Syncopate, so tired of Deathmist Raptor already.

 

[pelicansurf]

Looks like control is going to be pretty fucking nasty.

 

[The Technomancer]

Interesting that other cards care about whether a card has activated its Renown ability or not.

Kind of an odd thing to put since that reads like total nonsense if you haven't seen a card with Renown yet.

I like that they're exploring that Monstrous design space but yeah little weird

 

["God's Beard!"]

AND it misses Siege Rhino and Tasigur!

Decks that want this card can kill a Siege Rhino. But they wont get rode down by a turn three thunderbreak or a monstrous fleecemane so easily now.

It also(kinda) comes in under Whisperwood Elemental which is huge.

This card is the best in the set so far.

 

[manipulate]

Lol, why did they engineer the 4/5 creature tier to be particularly good

 

[kirblar]

I like that they're exploring that Monstrous design space but yeah little weird

I don't understand why it's not "if it has a +1/+1 counter" here- would be a much cleaner/backwards-compatible design.

Languish is a snap buy - it will likely be very undercosted at first.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Lol, why did they engineer the 4/5 creature tier to be particularly good

so they could design stuff you could still play in your shitty languish deck

 

["God's Beard!"]

Lol, why did they engineer the 4/5 creature tier to be particularly good

Prognostic Sphinx's time to shine, baby!

 

[WanderingWind]

Uh. Languish seems pretty damn annoying in this field. They really, really wanted us to play with their dragons this set. UB control is gonna be stupid.

 

[ultron87]

The theme of "becoming famous" with renown and the flip walkers is cute.

 

[pelicansurf]

Goodbye devotion / ramp decks... unless you get a Polukranos out fast (just kidding, countered for 2 mana... or murderous cut... or or or)

 

[bigkrev]

If Scry is in the set... why not just reprint Condescend? Or reprint Syncopate, so tired of Deathmist Raptor already.

Condescend is probably too good. Surprised they didn't do a Scry 1 version of the card though.

 

[WanderingWind]

Hey, boys and girls, do you like Siege Rhinos? Because you're about to get Thragtusk sick of 'em.

 

[kirblar]

Efficient counterspells with Scry are really not something we need more of.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Uh. Languish seems pretty damn annoying in this field. They really, really wanted us to play with their dragons this set. UB control is gonna be stupid.

Prognistic Sphinx
Silumgar, the Drifting Death
Dragonlord Silumgar
Tasigur, the Golden Fang
Pearl Lake Ancient



Between Languish and Clash of Wills, there's a lot less reason to splash Ojutai in control.

 

[charlequin]

Oh snap, y'all were right about the color pairs! One pair per plane.

Also, if anyone's wondering why the set feels a little underbaked, it's the same reason it always is: they threw out a design halfway through and had to power through to the finish line in a really short window. (Now, I don't particularly think the set's bad so far, other than the awkward CGI art. But if you're wondering.)

Lol, why did they engineer the 4/5 creature tier to be particularly good

As long as I can remember, cheap 3/4s or 4/5s have been great in Standard based purely on whether the best underpowered removal spell did 3 or 4 damage.

I guess we're in the for the long haul of boring draw-go.

Because... they printed a sorcery-speed sweeper?

 

[Angry Grimace]

Uh. Languish seems pretty damn annoying in this field. They really, really wanted us to play with their dragons this set. UB control is gonna be stupid.

Don't worry, it would always be worse.

Thoughtseize is rotating out.

Because... they printed a sorcery-speed sweeper?

Draw-go is already a Tier 1 deck, this makes it even better because Crux was 1 mana more - not sure what's confusing or even controversial about that. The condition on this isn't even as relevant as one might imagine.

 

[bigkrev]

New checklist card

Also, is this part about needing all cards to be checklists new? I remember in DKA-INN draft often not getting enough DKA checklists, and sometimes having a few cards just in the deck instead of checklisted

Only official checklist cards may be used to stand-in for double-faced cards in a deck. If you use a checklist card to represent any of the double-faced cards in your deck, you must use checklist cards to represent all of them.

 

[Angry Grimace]

New checklist card

Also, is this part about needing all cards to be checklists new? I remember in DKA-INN draft often not getting enough DKA checklists, and sometimes having a few cards just in the deck instead of checklisted

They always come with checklists now, they have a better sorting system with the machine-readable cards.

 

[The Technomancer]

New checklist card

Also, is this part about needing all cards to be checklists new? I remember in DKA-INN draft often not getting enough DKA checklists, and sometimes having a few cards just in the deck instead of checklisted

Uh yeah I think that's new, they were optional if you had sleeves before

Also confirmation on that Nissa

 

[kirblar]

If you use checklists, all your copies must be checklists. It's to avoid BS.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Uh yeah I think that's new, they were optional if you had sleeves before

They're still optional. They're saying you need a checkcard IF you use a stand-in (meaning you can use the original with opaque sleeves). You just can't use a mix of check and real cards.

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

I feel like I'm the only person who misses seven year Extended and would rather have that over Modern. It's probably because I am.

I wonder if Extended will see a resurgence from people disgruntled by the faster set rotation schedule.

 

[Angry Grimace]

I wonder if Extended will see a resurgence from people disgruntled by the faster set rotation schedule.

Extended isn't a format anymore, so I doubt it.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Eww, ORI packs look like M14 packs

 

[kirblar]

Players won't invest in a second rotating format, it's why Modern is a success relative to every other attempt.

4-block Standard is the change that could potentially happen if 3-block is too fast.