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[ultron87]

That makes Piledriver legal in Modern. Is that enough for Goblins to be a thing?

 

[OnPoint]

They're going in on the black-green elf archetype huh?

Piledriver though...

 

[aidan]

Glad to see this reprinted.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Rabblemaster and Piledriver at the same time gonna be ridiculous and frankly, Goblins in Modern is probably viable now with Legion Loyalist and some other nonsense.

 

[manipulate]

Whoa, protection still kicking around?

 

[darkside31337]

Some neat Elves cards. Not sure if its good enough for Standard but hey Collected Company is around.

 

[kirblar]

Whoa, protection still kicking around?

It's in "we're not going to use it often, but its there if we want/need it" status.

 

[Keru_Shiri]

Yus! Finally something from Origins to be excited about! Gonna rock some RG Gobbos in Standard while this and Rabblemaster are in Standard.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

Goblins has had it's moment in the sun a few times before in Modern. So far, playing Burn has proved to be a more effective strategy.

 

[Hero]

Wonder if we're gonna get Goblin Ringleader too since they have Sylvan Messenger.

 

[Keru_Shiri]

Goblins has had it's moment in the sun a few times before in Modern. So far, playing Burn has proved to be a more effective strategy.

Piledriver is a pretty significant boost, though.

 

[WanderingWind]

Well, that's a neat and wholly unexpected reprint. Pretty happy that it seems that BFZ is going to have the classic tribes in it. I haven't gotten a chance to play them in standard, since they didn't exist when I came back.

But let me tell you, as a collector I'm mad that my Piledriver playset prices are gonna crater!!11!!

 

["God's Beard!"]

Well, that's a neat and wholly unexpected reprint. Pretty happy that it seems that BFZ is going to have the classic tribes in it. I haven't gotten a chance to play them in standard, since they didn't exist when I came back.

But let me tell you, as a collector I'm mad that my Piledriver playset prices are gonna crater!!11!!

It's like Lorwyn without the bad art!

Ready for some games?

 

[kirblar]

[QUOTE="God's Beard!";169930910]It's like Lorwyn without the bad art!

Ready for some games?[/QUOTE]
Karla Ortiz may be blinding you a tad.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Is Rabblemaster any good in Modern with Piledriver around? I was gonna drop those pretty soon.

 

[kirblar]

Is Rabblemaster any good in Modern with Piledriver around? I was gonna drop those pretty soon.

I wouldn't drop them - that card's probably not coming back to standard any time soon.

 

[Angry Grimace]

I wouldn't drop them - that card's probably not coming back to standard any time soon.

Well if it was just a Standard level card, I'd punt them for the $8 they cost. If its going to be a Modern level card, I'm going to keep them.

I wouldn't have a reason to think its a Modern level card outside of Piledriver possibly creating enough synergy to bring Goblins up to a legit deck.

I dunno about that, but the painlands being printed worry me a bit.

I find it exceedingly unlikely they won't reprint Scalding Tarn in BFZ. Its just too expensive for no real reason.

 

[OnPoint]

I wouldn't drop them - that card's probably not coming back to standard any time soon.

But the question is are they worth picking up? And when.

 

[pelicansurf]

Wizards is done with Midrange by the looks of it. Standard's going to be interesting.

 

[WanderingWind]

Loyalist into Piledriver into Rabblemaster? Hell yeah I'm going to try that out.

GB on the way home now

 

["God's Beard!"]

Wizards is done with Midrange by the looks of it. Standard's going to be interesting.

2 bile blight
1 ultimate price
4 downfall
4 languish

get bodied

 

[Angry Grimace]

Wizards is done with Midrange by the looks of it. Standard's going to be interesting.

Straight red aggro decks for the next couple months are probably Goblin decks, I guess, but still, I don't see anything that's uncrowning Siege Rhino.

 

[Firemind]

Wizards is done with Midrange by the looks of it. Standard's going to be interesting.

lolno

Siege Rhino is going to dominate standard for another year.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Vryn looks cool, by the way. I'm hoping the Spring set is there.

 

[darkside31337]

lolno

Siege Rhino is going to dominate standard for another year.

I mean its entirely dependent on what lands are available.

 

[The Technomancer]

Vryn looks cool, by the way. I'm hoping the Spring set is there.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Jace is gonna show up sooner or later anyways, why not there? Its been a whole 3 sets since JACE JACE JACE JACE

 

[OnPoint]

Too bad they can't reprint this in Origins?

 

[divisionbyzorro]

Not alongside Llanowar Wastes, sadly.

 

[y2dvd]

Was Goblin Piledriver printed just outside of modern before this? Can it find a home in burn playing alongside Goblin Guide?

 

[pelicansurf]

I just meant Midrange outside of Abzan. Abzan Control, Mega-Morph, etc is still viable since it has Rhino/Taisugur + all the mass destruction spells.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Was Goblin Piledriver printed just outside of modern before this? Can it find a home in burn playing alongside Goblin Guide?

Its a tribal card, you'd play it as a dedicated Goblins deck.

 

[phazedplasma]

welp flying thalia is a card

 

[The Technomancer]

welp flying thalia is a card

It is, but three mana is a huge difference for what that deck wants to do. It will see some play, for sure

 

[Angry Grimace]

Well I picked up MTGO Piledrviers for 80 cents. I guess they could get cheaper, since they were in VMA, but that's not a lot of money to lose.

Oh hey, they're $2.50 now. I should MTGFINANCE!!!'d this shit.

 

[phazedplasma]

It is, but three mana is a huge difference for what that deck wants to do. It will see some play, for sure

I think you can easily cut some stuff to add 2-3 of em.

militant or familair into thalia into flying thalia is a nice curve

 

[Firemind]

They should make Mother of Runes modern legal. :lol

 

[SigmasonicX]

You know, when it became apparent that we weren't getting any famous angel reprints with protection, I started to think about what other big creatures they could reprint with protection, and did consider Goblin Piledriver, but dismissed it because it would be too strong, especially with Goblin Rabblemaster around. But, "Well, there is is."

The other elves are interesting. Odd to see a mana dork in monoblack, albeit an unusual one. I'm surprised the life loss elf actually is just 3 mana. We may actually see Standard CoCo Elves before Zendikar even gets involved.

And one more new card

I'm surprised we're getting the prowess variants alongside prowess.

EDIT: Any reprints people are looking forward to? Number crunch. I'd like for Atog to come back, especially since red seems to have a small artifact theme, and there's room at collector number 130.

EDIT: Just realized that with Vryn Wingmare, "wingmare" was totally a pun in My Little Pony.

 

[OnPoint]

If they bring Atog back they need to bring some cool variants with it.

Edit: I have dreams of Standard Elf Devotion using CoCo and Genesis Hydra with Shaman of the Pack. Please let there be enough elves to make this worthwhile.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Loyalist into Piledriver into Rabblemaster? Hell yeah I'm going to try that out.

GB on the way home now

I think Goblin Chieftain is better in Modern, tbh.

 

[WanderingWind]

God the assholes you run into on Cockatrice.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Not sure what you expected, to be honest. GB is the Owen Turtenwald of NeoGAF.

 

[y2dvd]

Its a tribal card, you'd play it as a dedicated Goblins deck.

Rabble master worth holding onto post rotation ?

 

[Angry Grimace]

Rabble master worth holding onto post rotation ?

I personally say no, Kirblar says yes. Depends on what you think Modern Goblins will play - the problem is that Rabblemaster is just kind of slow vs. Goblin Chieftain.

Rabblemaster isn't worth enough that I think its a worthwhile sell-off if you have any interest in playing red for 2 months. Granted, it will spike again because Piledriver exists.

 

[Yeef]

My understanding is that Rabblemaster sees fringe play in some older formats, but honestly, I think it's too good a card not to hold onto at least a playset. It's bound to find a home eventually.

 

["God's Beard!"]

God the assholes you run into on Cockatrice.

fucking variance, man

 

[The Technomancer]

The flavor text on that djinn is amazing

 

[Angry Grimace]

My understanding is that Rabblemaster sees fringe play in some older formats, but honestly, I think it's too good a card not to hold onto at least a playset. It's bound to find a home eventually.

You can do 30 damage by turn 4 with unanswered Denizen --> Piledriver ---> Rabblemaster.

I'm sure R/g goblins will be a thing people try since flashing in Piledriver and Rabblemaster EOT with CoCo is like 10 damage alone.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Deck: Goblins

//Goblins
4 Frenzied Goblin
4 Foundry Street Denizen
4 Goblin Piledriver
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
2 Goblin Heelcutter
2 Jeering Instigator
4 Mardu Scout

//Not Goblins
4 Collected Company
4 Dragon Fodder
4 Wild Slash
2 Atarka's Command

//Land
13 Mountain
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Mana Confluence
1 Forest

//Sideboard
2 Destructive Revelry
4 Roast
2 Searing Blood
3 Scouring Sands
4 Hordeling Outburst

 

[Jhriad]

The problem is that the "these nerds are gross and sweaty and chasing away all the women" argument is that it doesn't explain this competitive disparity showing up in a game like Chess.

However, plenty of other factors do provide ample explanation for the disparity.