I dont think he will. Its been too easy for him. The author isnt laying enough challenges for him.
Tough
god dammit i had no idea they skipped like 100 chapters. shouldnt have read that lol
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I dont think he will. Its been too easy for him. The author isnt laying enough challenges for him.
Tough
god dammit i had no idea they skipped like 100 chapters. shouldnt have read that lol
RepairmanJack
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You might have missed the last chapter then. The second to last chapter is the great ending, then the last chapter happens. I think someone found out they did the same thing just last week.
BassForever
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I was trying to put off reading Hunter X Hunter until the Hiatus was over, too late for that now lol
One Piece - Enies Lobby
Wow. I don't even know if this can be considered a story arc on its own. It's basically a huge climax to Water 7. Starts off feeling like a literal One Piece Musou comic, tons of action, not a lot of plot, huge stakes, then it interleaves all the various characters and plot elements developed in Water 7 into layer after layer of conclusions, with subplots and backstories being tied up and expanded. Really phenomenal storytelling. I loved Nico Robin's flashback, and the legacy of the Lost History is becoming more and more intriguing. The climax to this arc was a total tearjerker. It's really amazing how sad One Piece can be for a manga where no one in the actual story ever "dies". Hats off to Oda for weaving a story where a ship "dying" can be that powerful. Amazing.
The epilogue after Enies Lobby was fantastic too. Seeing all those characters again and watching the reactions from all the places the the Straw Hats have been to before, seeing the bounty grow, getting the new ship, and getting all sorts of crazy foreshadowing on The New World, the Ds, and all that Ace vs Blackbeard stuff... omg...
Wow. I don't even know if this can be considered a story arc on its own. It's basically a huge climax to Water 7. Starts off feeling like a literal One Piece Musou comic, tons of action, not a lot of plot, huge stakes, then it interleaves all the various characters and plot elements developed in Water 7 into layer after layer of conclusions, with subplots and backstories being tied up and expanded. Really phenomenal storytelling. I loved Nico Robin's flashback, and the legacy of the Lost History is becoming more and more intriguing. The climax to this arc was a total tearjerker. It's really amazing how sad One Piece can be for a manga where no one in the actual story ever "dies". Hats off to Oda for weaving a story where a ship "dying" can be that powerful. Amazing.
The epilogue after Enies Lobby was fantastic too. Seeing all those characters again and watching the reactions from all the places the the Straw Hats have been to before, seeing the bounty grow, getting the new ship, and getting all sorts of crazy foreshadowing on The New World, the Ds, and all that Ace vs Blackbeard stuff... omg...
Halcyon Lunch volume 2 [END]
If the first volume didn't make it clear enough, volume 2 brought it home how much nonsense this whole story was. Plot aside, the inclusion of so much references in it was pretty insane and awesome.
Talking about the plot, the reveal about Hyos looking the way she does was, in a way amusing
About the end, it was just as absurd as everything else. It saddened me initially, but
There is something to say about the after-words too, where Samura says Halcyon Lunch was planned to be a 7 chapters, single volume deal, but then because of reasons linked to sales, they had to publish the first book after the fifth episode, and so the story went for another 2 chapters for a total of 9. Then Samura says that reading back the sixth, seventh and the last chapter, he noticed how fundamental they were to the narration and wondered how the story could have ended in 7.
Other little interesting things are the fact that Triazo is based on Galaxy Express 999's Maetel and that J.B. is called that because... "Gero" in Japanese is the sound of barfing and it made Samura think of "gheroppa", and so James Brown.
If the first volume didn't make it clear enough, volume 2 brought it home how much nonsense this whole story was. Plot aside, the inclusion of so much references in it was pretty insane and awesome.
Talking about the plot, the reveal about Hyos looking the way she does was, in a way amusing
(she looked like Gen's dead "daughter") and I also liked how Akira's fake personality was half left in her after J.B. implanted it to make Ryuta happy.
About the end, it was just as absurd as everything else. It saddened me initially, but
then everything gets returned to normality and Hyos/Akira gets to stay and live with Gen and family.
There is something to say about the after-words too, where Samura says Halcyon Lunch was planned to be a 7 chapters, single volume deal, but then because of reasons linked to sales, they had to publish the first book after the fifth episode, and so the story went for another 2 chapters for a total of 9. Then Samura says that reading back the sixth, seventh and the last chapter, he noticed how fundamental they were to the narration and wondered how the story could have ended in 7.
Other little interesting things are the fact that Triazo is based on Galaxy Express 999's Maetel and that J.B. is called that because... "Gero" in Japanese is the sound of barfing and it made Samura think of "gheroppa", and so James Brown.
One Piece - Enies Lobby
Wow. I don't even know if this can be considered a story arc on its own. It's basically a huge climax to Water 7. Starts off feeling like a literal One Piece Musou comic, tons of action, not a lot of plot, huge stakes, then it interleaves all the various characters and plot elements developed in Water 7 into layer after layer of conclusions, with subplots and backstories being tied up and expanded. Really phenomenal storytelling. I loved Nico Robin's flashback, and the legacy of the Lost History is becoming more and more intriguing. The climax to this arc was a total tearjerker. It's really amazing how sad One Piece can be for a manga where no one in the actual story ever "dies". Hats off to Oda for weaving a story where a ship "dying" can be that powerful. Amazing.
The epilogue after Enies Lobby was fantastic too. Seeing all those characters again and watching the reactions from all the places the the Straw Hats have been to before, seeing the bounty grow, getting the new ship, and getting all sorts of crazy foreshadowing on The New World, the Ds, and all that Ace vs Blackbeard stuff... omg...
Even reading your reactions game me goosebumps. That whole arc was fantastic.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that one. Still, that second to last chapter is great. What's up with Togashi this time, by the way?
Yeah, Enies Lobby was amazing. Best arc, definitely.
People can say what they want about Oga, but he makes me tear up more than most other mangaka. Drum Island Arc got me good.
One Piece - Enies Lobby
Wow. I don't even know if this can be considered a story arc on its own. It's basically a huge climax to Water 7. Starts off feeling like a literal One Piece Musou comic, tons of action, not a lot of plot, huge stakes, then it interleaves all the various characters and plot elements developed in Water 7 into layer after layer of conclusions, with subplots and backstories being tied up and expanded. Really phenomenal storytelling. I loved Nico Robin's flashback, and the legacy of the Lost History is becoming more and more intriguing. The climax to this arc was a total tearjerker. It's really amazing how sad One Piece can be for a manga where no one in the actual story ever "dies". Hats off to Oda for weaving a story where a ship "dying" can be that powerful. Amazing.
The epilogue after Enies Lobby was fantastic too. Seeing all those characters again and watching the reactions from all the places the the Straw Hats have been to before, seeing the bounty grow, getting the new ship, and getting all sorts of crazy foreshadowing on The New World, the Ds, and all that Ace vs Blackbeard stuff... omg...
duckroll is the master of hype
I think the most amazing thing about One Piece is really how naturally wide the entire world feels. From the beginning of the story, what was promised is that it would be a huge adventure around the entire world, going to places no one could imagine and seeing things no one would believe. That concept of grand adventure and unbelievable sights is something which can be really hard to accomplish without a great vision and lots of creativity. One Piece pulls it off in such an effortless way that makes every other shounen action manga feel... so small in comparison. It's crazy.
Oh and I have to say, some of the front page mini-stories are really funny. A lot of of them are fluff, but some are just so wacky it would probably make a good story on their own if it's part of the proper manga anyway. Like the Enel Space Adventure one I'm looking at now. Totally off the wall. But sooo good.
Oh and I have to say, some of the front page mini-stories are really funny. A lot of of them are fluff, but some are just so wacky it would probably make a good story on their own if it's part of the proper manga anyway. Like the Enel Space Adventure one I'm looking at now. Totally off the wall. But sooo good.
BassForever
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One Piece - Enies Lobby
Wow. I don't even know if this can be considered a story arc on its own. It's basically a huge climax to Water 7. Starts off feeling like a literal One Piece Musou comic, tons of action, not a lot of plot, huge stakes, then it interleaves all the various characters and plot elements developed in Water 7 into layer after layer of conclusions, with subplots and backstories being tied up and expanded. Really phenomenal storytelling. I loved Nico Robin's flashback, and the legacy of the Lost History is becoming more and more intriguing. The climax to this arc was a total tearjerker. It's really amazing how sad One Piece can be for a manga where no one in the actual story ever "dies". Hats off to Oda for weaving a story where a ship "dying" can be that powerful. Amazing.
The epilogue after Enies Lobby was fantastic too. Seeing all those characters again and watching the reactions from all the places the the Straw Hats have been to before, seeing the bounty grow, getting the new ship, and getting all sorts of crazy foreshadowing on The New World, the Ds, and all that Ace vs Blackbeard stuff... omg...
Welcome to the cruise Duckroll enjoy your stay!
Yup yup. One Piece is really good. I don't get the hate it sometimes gets.
Dedication Through Light
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The previous arc wasnt all that good though, though the most recent arc is getting One Piece back on track.
FlutterPuffs
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One thing I miss most about One Piece (and I hope gets rectified) is the lack of 1 on 1 battles in the last 2 arcs. Oda really did them well.
Plus all of us are dying to see how good Zoro can fight now.
Plus all of us are dying to see how good Zoro can fight now.
One of the reasons I like Toriko is because of the exact same thing. The characters travel to crazy places, discover ridiculous monsters, food... Really feels like an epic adventure.
Just seeing the One Piece crew and Toriko traveling pleases me, I could care less about the actual plot.
Just seeing the One Piece crew and Toriko traveling pleases me, I could care less about the actual plot.
My Sisters
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The first 6 chapters with the nympho, porno star sister are probably the best ones and also the more rage inducing ones, in a way, because that end, to me, is totally NTR!
The next story about Haruka and her thing with her boyfriend and his little sister is more funny than anything, same for the last story spanning 5 chapters, though that one also has some exhibitionism, making me like it a lot.
The 4 page, full color chapter called Wake Up was totally hot.
There is something to be said about Yui Toshiki. His stories are pretty light and funny and the art, while not ultra detailed, is still very erotic.
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The first 6 chapters with the nympho, porno star sister are probably the best ones and also the more rage inducing ones, in a way, because that end, to me, is totally NTR!
The next story about Haruka and her thing with her boyfriend and his little sister is more funny than anything, same for the last story spanning 5 chapters, though that one also has some exhibitionism, making me like it a lot.
The 4 page, full color chapter called Wake Up was totally hot.
There is something to be said about Yui Toshiki. His stories are pretty light and funny and the art, while not ultra detailed, is still very erotic.
While I'm a massive fan, I can understand some of the criticism.
The artwork can get really weird. It's not bad, but it can be off-putting. Bad art is Rob Liefeld, or Mitsutoshi Shimabukuro's work on Seikimatsu Leader den Takeshi. He has improved for Toriko though.
Though I know a lot of Western fans don't like the art because it's "not anime enough". Well, not fans per se, more Western anime fans that refuse to touch One Piece because "it's not anime enough" *upturned nose*
It does follow a lot of Shonen tropes, but it also defies them. Luffy easily could have been Roger's son, but he isn't, and I applaud Oda for not using that cliche.
It's looooooong, and can be intimidating. But like Star Trek or Doctor Who, it's best to go one bite at a time. Hence the collected volumes.
Zoramon089
Banned
Yeah I miss them too but it seems like he's more more towards group battles and such. Although we still do get awesome ones like the recent Franky fight! General Franky >>>
The front page stories are actually cannon. Anyway if you think Water 7/Enies Lobby was something then oh boy. If there was one series I wish I could go into blind again once it's complete it's One Piece.
Yeah, the front page stories are just as important.
The events of Buggy's story ties into his return at Loguetown
The events of Coby & Helmeppo's story tie into the follow-up to Enies Lobby with Garp showing up.
The events of Jango's story tie into his appearance at the end of Alabasta
It hasn't happened at the point duckroll's at, but Hatchan's, Wapol's and Miss Goldenweek's stories all tie into the plot somehow.
I know they're canon, I just mean that a lot of them just aren't that great, which Oda probably knows, which is why they're just one panel cover pages to enjoy along with the main story. But -some- of them are pretty good!
Neoriceisgood
Member
I wonder if some of the others will tie in as well.
I forgot how Wapol's ties in to the plot btw, elaborate?
whatsinaname
Member
The problem with that is that as a series progress, repeated one-on-one battles make a manga seem formulaic. One Piece does that as well but it is masked a bit and I like how Oda mixes it up.
The other problem is that a few of the arcs (Sky Island comes to mind) don't seem to work well broken down into weekly chapters. The pacing of each arc is different and I kind of like that as well.
Yea, but I'm glad even the good ones are just covers because goddamn is One Piece long enough as it is.
I don't think we know yet. It'll probably tie in when we deal with World Government stuff later on.
I believe it's something to do with the toys he sells. Maybe Perona related?
I agree with everything, it's definitely shonen through-and-through, but soo good. I hear a lot of people not liking the art, and I get that. I really didn't like the art when I was first introduced to One Piece, the character designs turned me off, and every panel was (and still is) busy as shit, with tons of dialogue and detail. But I did a complete 180 after a couple of chapters. You really need to grow into it, but I grew to love it. It's just very well done and consistent in it's own style. If there's one thing I dislike, it's inconsistent character designs and art.
As duckroll said, the best thing about One Piece though is the great sense of adventure that's overflowing in the series. Every arc is a great story on it's own, even the weaker ones (Fishman Island, Moria arc). And damn, Oda really hits dem feels once in a while.
Wapol created Wapometal, a very powerful and durable metal that helps his toys.
Following the timeskip, Franky reveals that the General Franky is made of Wapometal.
It's a small thing but it's still kind of important.
Water 7/Enies Lobby arc hasn't been surpassed yet, imo.
"God's Beard!"
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Gantz
Why are they all standing in line while the Americans are fighting the aliens, again? Why don't they bring Gantz somewhere else or just blast the unarmed aliens?
Why are they all standing in line while the Americans are fighting the aliens, again? Why don't they bring Gantz somewhere else or just blast the unarmed aliens?
A Town Where a stupid woman with no Understanding of What a Relationship is Lives 213
How the hell does she still think they're going out? It doesn't make any sense. Even if she always speaks in incomprehensible gibberish to the main moron, you'd imagine that someone else would set he straight after listening talk about how her "boyfriend" neglects her.
I understand that this is just a running gag, but it's gone on so long that it puts not only her sanity, but also that of those around her into question.
How the hell does she still think they're going out? It doesn't make any sense. Even if she always speaks in incomprehensible gibberish to the main moron, you'd imagine that someone else would set he straight after listening talk about how her "boyfriend" neglects her.
I understand that this is just a running gag, but it's gone on so long that it puts not only her sanity, but also that of those around her into question.
How she is able to survive in the modern world I have no idea.
Versipellis
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One Piece - Enies Lobby
The last *great* arc in OP, IMO. Things went downhill from there (not saying that OP is bad, just not as good as it was before).
It had great battles for every single member of the crew and the amount of foreshadowing (without closing other loose ends) was still bearable if not intriguing (Robin's past and "fate", Blackbeard powers, the World History mystery etc.)
Post-EL OP is extremely Luffy-centric, with occasional cameos and new characters taking the outer rim of the spotlight, while the original crew has been placed on the chrous line.
Battles have a lot of spamming - tactical elements, while never too deep, now are almost nonexistent. In other words, battles are getting pretty boring.
The plot is becoming clogged with things that should happen sometime in the future, but with all these new subplots opening every new arc (without closing the old ones) I seems to me that an entire lifetime might not be enough to complete OP.
Still, I really like the art and the humor is still there (somewhat).
The last *great* arc in OP, IMO. Things went downhill from there (not saying that OP is bad, just not as good as it was before).
It had great battles for every single member of the crew and the amount of foreshadowing (without closing other loose ends) was still bearable if not intriguing (Robin's past and "fate", Blackbeard powers, the World History mystery etc.)
Post-EL OP is extremely Luffy-centric, with occasional cameos and new characters taking the outer rim of the spotlight, while the original crew has been placed on the chrous line.
Battles have a lot of spamming - tactical elements, while never too deep, now are almost nonexistent. In other words, battles are getting pretty boring.
The plot is becoming clogged with things that should happen sometime in the future, but with all these new subplots opening every new arc (without closing the old ones) I seems to me that an entire lifetime might not be enough to complete OP.
Still, I really like the art and the humor is still there (somewhat).
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Togashi said in interviews that he felt YYH got absurd after a while and he got bored writing about someone who he had to keep making stronger.
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
Sabaody Archepelago / Impel Down / Marine Headquarters is the absolute top trinity for me. Back to back to back awesome.
But the Island of Women Arc came before Impel Down
Crash Station
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Damn well. The animation isn't the best, but it captures the feel of the manga perfectly. I'd almost say you should just watch the anime then jump right into part 3 of the manga.
brotkasten
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I'm not a huge OP fan and I agree with this. It's one of the best arcs I've read in a shonen (haven't read many).
Crash Station
Member
One Piece - Enies Lobby
Wow. I don't even know if this can be considered a story arc on its own. It's basically a huge climax to Water 7. Starts off feeling like a literal One Piece Musou comic, tons of action, not a lot of plot, huge stakes, then it interleaves all the various characters and plot elements developed in Water 7 into layer after layer of conclusions, with subplots and backstories being tied up and expanded. Really phenomenal storytelling. I loved Nico Robin's flashback, and the legacy of the Lost History is becoming more and more intriguing. The climax to this arc was a total tearjerker. It's really amazing how sad One Piece can be for a manga where no one in the actual story ever "dies". Hats off to Oda for weaving a story where a ship "dying" can be that powerful. Amazing.
The epilogue after Enies Lobby was fantastic too. Seeing all those characters again and watching the reactions from all the places the the Straw Hats have been to before, seeing the bounty grow, getting the new ship, and getting all sorts of crazy foreshadowing on The New World, the Ds, and all that Ace vs Blackbeard stuff... omg...
And it only gets better!
Though the next arc is pretty hit or miss, but the series of arcs after that are arguably the best in the series alongside Water 7 and Alabasta.
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
Amazon Lily was more like a brief transition, I consider it part of the Impel Down arc.
I recently read all of One Piece and I really enjoyed it. I also like the fact that it doesn't suffer from the power scaling Bleach, Naruto and DBZ suffer from. (Menos Grande being set-up as uber-powerful and then becoming weak sauce to everyone, kyubi being scaled-down once useful, there always being an enemy whos stronger.) I think it's the fact that One Piece introduced the end-game so early on for one of the characters (Mihawk for Zoro), and displayed them with the same strength they have now. I also like the fact that not everyone who's stronger than Luffy is an enemy, for example the fact that one of the emperors is an ally is really cool. I hope there is another 'war' arc at some point before Raftel is found.
In fact who are the notable allies and enemies?
If anyone knows any characters who should be added to the list, feel free to say so.
In fact who are the notable allies and enemies?
Allies:
Strawhats
Red-Hair pirates
Heart Pirates
ex-Whitebeards and allies
Boa Hancock
Silvers Rayleigh
Jinbe
Revolutionary army ( I really want Luffy to meet his dad soon)
Aokiji
Smoker (He always ends-up helping them, I love this character as he broke the cliche of the Marines being corrupt)
Garp ( possibly Sengoku)
Coby
Enemies:
Kaido
Big Mom
Blackbeard
Majority of Marines (Akainu)
World Government
Donflamingo
Supernovas (Specifically Kid pirates and alliance)
Ambiguous:
Crocodile
Vegapunk
Other Supernovas
Mihawk (Friends with Shanks, trained Zoro, but doesn't mind attacking Straw Hats if government asks)
Buggy
ex-CP9
Strawhats
Red-Hair pirates
Heart Pirates
ex-Whitebeards and allies
Boa Hancock
Silvers Rayleigh
Jinbe
Revolutionary army ( I really want Luffy to meet his dad soon)
Aokiji
Smoker (He always ends-up helping them, I love this character as he broke the cliche of the Marines being corrupt)
Garp ( possibly Sengoku)
Coby
Enemies:
Kaido
Big Mom
Blackbeard
Majority of Marines (Akainu)
World Government
Donflamingo
Supernovas (Specifically Kid pirates and alliance)
Ambiguous:
Crocodile
Vegapunk
Other Supernovas
Mihawk (Friends with Shanks, trained Zoro, but doesn't mind attacking Straw Hats if government asks)
Buggy
ex-CP9
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Noblesse
Franckyyyyyyyyyyy. I can´t wait for the fucking massacre.
Franckyyyyyyyyyyy. I can´t wait for the fucking massacre.
JoJo is hard to take seriously because of the powers and posing and art, but that's also part of its appeal. It's quality is remarkably consistent for such a long running series, if you like one part of JoJo chances are you'll enjoy them all to various degrees. Past part 2, there's not much more to the stories other than going from one Stand user to the next and watching the main cast grow, but it's okay, because most of the Stands are really inventive and the characters are all memorable. Araki is also really not afraid to kill off characters, even if they're popular. As a benefit of being focused on a small group of characters, instead of introducing more and more characters to the "main cast" like some other shounens, each death is more meaningful because you've spent more time with those characters.
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
The next few chapters may legitimize the idea.
I'm just assuming he will be:
*Fish-man island spoiler*
Because he's left the marines, and even while in the marines he seemed to have become quite attached to the Strawhats. He has no obligation to be their enemy anymore
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