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Manga News/Discussion |OTZ| Reading Shounen Garbage < Watching Moe Garbage
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BassForever
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I don't get this "moe is making anime/manga terrible" notion. Most of the moe stuff is in harem/romcom series and those were always terrible
Crimsonlink
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Isn't Moe really just cuteness? I thought Lolicon is more along the lines of Pedophilia.
And those people are dumb.
They are also a load supermajority.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
It's ephebophilia most of the time anyway.
It's a catchall phrase for people willing to dismiss an entire medium because they think it peaked at whatever show/comic they watched/read as a kid.
"Moe" is just a term that can mean anyone to anything really.
I think you're vastly overestimating the number of people than know or care about japanese cartoons and whether or not they have little boys/girls in them.
I think most people would be of like mind if they did know.
[citation needed]
BassForever
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Nostalgia blindness is an issue in everything from anime to games to movies. It's why I always have to say DB/Z is the best manga/anime ever, I know it probably isn't but it's the thing that got me into manga and anime.
Laughing Banana
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Which is bloody ridiculous.
I like cute things so that's why I can tolerate the concept of "moe" than most, although I don't deny that there are works out there that try to sexualize it to the extent that even I find uncomfortable with.
However, as a concept, I guess I can say that I like "moe."
Let's put it this way: would you be comfortable if everyone suddenly knew about it?
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Knew about what though?
Moe is practically mainstream in Japan already anyway, with the whole kawaii concept. There really isn't any ties to pedophilia other than works that explicitly uses it in that context. Moe is such a nebulous term.
DB/Z still p. fun tho. :>
I'm pretty open about what I watch/read/etc to others so I couldn't really give a shit what some moron thinks of me.
BassForever
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I'd say things like Vividred Operation are the problem. It's not that moe is an issue but when you have your series consist of pre-teen/middle school girls and you go out of your way to show butts and skimpy outfits it creates the wrong image especially when those are the popular things that sell.
Dedication Through Light
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People would feel uncomfortable around moe kawaii things and characters in anime and manga?
FlutterPuffs
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Yeah, it does honestly. I mean there's things like K-On and Azumanga Daioh which doesn't really oversexualise their characters but then you have tons of other shit out there that just seems so annoyingly creepy.
So I get that. I don't mind when a character is cute in any god given manga (I've seen some people who just jumps onto them, label them moe and categorize them as the Worst Thing Ever) but there should be somewhat of a limit when it comes to sexualise-ing teenage-looking girls, no matter how intricate your explanation on how she's barely legal might be.
BassForever
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I'm not sure what's worse, having a girl that looks 12 years old but claiming she's 16+/18+ therefore making her sexualized nature "okay" or a girl who looks like she's 18+ who claims to be 14-16
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I mean, yotsuba& is moe as fuck.
If you dislike it because of that I can say that you're dead inside.
If you dislike it because of that I can say that you're dead inside.
If "everyone" knew about it it wouldn't matter, the only difference is if someone falsely accused him of being a pedo for liking K-ON!
If someone is willing to insult someone over liking K-ON! because of the way it looks because they are insecure and have no dignity, they are only making a fool of themselves.
ColossalLazy
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Glass Mask Vol 1
The MC is so crazy, I like her.
Acting is serious business. Madam Tsukikage lessons are harsh lol.
The MC is so crazy, I like her.
Acting is serious business. Madam Tsukikage lessons are harsh lol.
FlutterPuffs
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Oh I tease people for liking K-On though, but it's far from being a pedophile.
Unless of course, there's doujinishis, boob mousepad and body pillows involved. Then you're pretty much crossing the line.
BassForever
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Well I mean that would fall into my second category... :/
Edit: Honestly it looks more like an anime version of Big where a little kid is in an adult's body. It's all in execution is the series more about hilarious hijinx or fan service exploitation of the female lead? If it's the former it's not a problem... if it's the latter...
Antiwhippy
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BassForever
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Well then...
HELL YEAH! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The filler will be legendary.
The lack of Raku is puzzling.
It will probably make a decent 12/13 episode series. I wonder if it will have an anime original end or not.
BassForever
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Sounds like they cut the worst part of the series based upon all yall's comments
He barely beat his comic relief best friend in the popularity poll so he's not exactly well liked even in Japan.
nnOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
FlutterPuffs
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He's like Ted from How I Met Your Mother. Technically the main character of the series but so annoying and forgettable compared to everyone else.
Shit, i didn't even THINK of this.
If they got rid of Raku, this series has a chance!
BassForever
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I asked in anime gaf for some stupid reason I guess I'll ask here too
Does an anime announcement of Nisekoi before it genre shifted into a battle shonen mean it's more likely to genre shift or less likely?
Does an anime announcement of Nisekoi before it genre shifted into a battle shonen mean it's more likely to genre shift or less likely?
Dedication Through Light
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Disappointing, but I guess it was to be expected...I hope he gets a character song on the eventual character song releases...lost potential if the anime doesnt do it.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
You mean every episode?
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
Less Likely. Marketing reasons dictate that it will not genre shift now. Unless it pulls an Air Gear and just goes to lolzerville.
BassForever
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I thought it was a given that all shonen jump series will eventually shift into battle shonen in some capacity or simply be flat out canceled before it gets the chance to shift
And don't catch up on my comments, I haven't read one chapter of Nisekoi... yet
Nisekoi is a harem romcom with little to no chance of becoming an action series so I don't know where you got that idea from. But to answer your question it would mean a genre shift is less likely unless it was planned from the begining.
dakkumauji
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Let me know when Nisekoi becomes a battle shounen and I'll start reading it post haste.
Save 'N Quit
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Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Wait, so was a genre shift implied yet?
I can kinda see it working.
I can kinda see it working.
Though it doesn't really matter seeing that I've dropped it out of boredom.
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