Marathon Brought on a New Creative Director Last Month
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Angry_Megalodon
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Jade Raymond would have been a better fit.
TransTrender
Gold Member
Things have been INCREDIBLY quiet since that livestream.
They're fucked.
They're fucked.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
nowhat
Member
They should cancel it, sure.
But investors don't care about individual games (or games in general). As long as Sony is making record revenue/profits, they couldn't GAF. (whereas here, we GAF, on multiple levels)
RoboFu
One of the green rats
Investors are more skittish than cockroaches when the lights come on.
nowhat
Member
Yes, when it comes to the actual big numbers. But a single game, really not. Did Concord affect Sony's stock in any meaningful way? What investors are after is "is $NUMBER bigger than last quarter?" If yes, it's all good. If not, we're doomed and all going to die. (I'm not saying investors are smart)
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FoxMcChief
Gold Member
But look at them PS5 consoles sales!
Radical_3d
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PeteBull
Member
That game doesnt need female narrative director, it needs some big dose of toxic masculinity, put those soyboy devs on HRT so they start thinking like men and liking what men like, then maybe, just maybe they can create game that men(so most of online multiplayer shooter aduience is) can enjoy...
Brutal take downs, massive nasty guns of all kinds, gore everywhere, sexy outfits with tons of boobies and asscheeks, t-baging, we dont ask for much, just obvious basics any guy enjoys
Oh, and ofc voice chat with 0 cenzorship where we can call u and ur momma all kinds of names for good measure, man has to have standards after all
Brutal take downs, massive nasty guns of all kinds, gore everywhere, sexy outfits with tons of boobies and asscheeks, t-baging, we dont ask for much, just obvious basics any guy enjoys
Oh, and ofc voice chat with 0 cenzorship where we can call u and ur momma all kinds of names for good measure, man has to have standards after all
Giallo Corsa
Member
LMAO
Joel Was Right
Member
What livestream? What happened there?
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Unknown Soldier
Member
Maybe they will completely restart the project and release it in 2030
Would work out better for them than releasing it this year and flopping worse than Concord
I guess I'm impressed they haven't just canceled it. Sony learned nothing from a Concord I guess
Would work out better for them than releasing it this year and flopping worse than Concord
I guess I'm impressed they haven't just canceled it. Sony learned nothing from a Concord I guess
Guardian Monkey
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Pretty sure the objective is to ship the game.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
This is one of my favorite gifs on the internet.
Every time some one posts it I watch it for like 50 loops.
geary
Member
I mean…i know a certain professor who would fit.
Hideous Snake
Gold Member
I don't see how Bungie is going to survive this. You either rework it or just cancel it
People are already not digging it and they have been loud and clear about it
People are already not digging it and they have been loud and clear about it
TerribleAtThisGame
Member
Baller gifs right off the bat. We're off to a rockin' start."Creative Director" "Last Month" "Release Date September 23, 2025"
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Doing that at this point would basically be making the game from scratch.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Any money being spent on Marathon at this point is money being tossed into an incinerator. I think Concord had better buzz after the beta. It would struggle to find an audience as a f2p game, let alone at $40.
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simpatico
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Pic doesn't tell the whole story. Do an image search. Pretty girl, but clearly a late bloomer. Probably had a middling time in high school at best. There's usually a certain amount is misanthropic salt in these types. Proceed with caution.
BOYS WE MIGHT BE OKAY.
But, this will clearly save the game. We wanted the OG Bungie pedigree, and I can't think of anything better for that than Julia Nardin.
Also found this. Sorry to say it lads, but she's a mall witch. Clearly looks just like the Marathon art style on the website, so it's a perfect fit to design the look of a game targeted to young men. https://www.cafenordo.com/nordo-blog/2022/julia-spiritparlour
yurinka
Member
Nah, in the livestream they said that weren't showing game stuff because were going to review and replace the art assets involved in the plagiarism and were in conversations with the artist to compensate or maybe eventually even hire her.
Since then the game was featured in 3 different promotions: a PS5 sizzle tv ad were appeared among other recent and upcoming big PS games, a portion of the PS5 booth in the UEFA Champions League finals, and in the Summer Game Fest hype video.
Other than this, they must be busy crunching to complete the game and address the stuff found in the closed alpha, so pretty likely will continue quiet for a while. Pretty likely until August, where they were considering to make an open beta.
Same here, but sadly their idea is that the game will be MP only and is supposed to release in 3 months and a half.
The game to be shipped at release won't almost change versus what they had before because it's on its final stages before release.
GaaS teams sometimes have two -often different- teams: one is the main dev team (for the pre-launch stuff, work making new games) and the other one the live ops team (for the post-launch stuff, they keep the game alive adding new stuff).
I assume that the idea was to have Steve Cotton as creative director for the stuff included until launch and now she will be the creative director for the stuff being added after launch. Meanwhile Steve Cotton would move to another Bungie team to start a new project.
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MrRibeye
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6 years in the games industry and already creative director on Sony's biggest upcoming multiplayer game ... did no-one else apply for the role?
Meanwhile:
Embark requires 10+ years experience for the Lead Designer role. [Job Listing]
Ten Square Games requires 8+ years experience for Lead Designer role. [Job Listing]
Warner Bros requires 7+ years experience for Lead Designer role. [Job Listing]
But sure ... 6 years of writing narrative qualifies you for creative direction at Sony.
Meanwhile:
Embark requires 10+ years experience for the Lead Designer role. [Job Listing]
Ten Square Games requires 8+ years experience for Lead Designer role. [Job Listing]
Warner Bros requires 7+ years experience for Lead Designer role. [Job Listing]
But sure ... 6 years of writing narrative qualifies you for creative direction at Sony.
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Loomy
Thinks Microaggressions are Real
This 100%.
I still believe going from Witch Queen to Lightfall was one of the biggest contributors to Destiny 2 player base and excitement for Final Shape declining fanbase.
To your second point though, if they don't delay this to - at least end of next year - they're setting the team up to fail. Announce a delay, push it to at least next year, and make it free to play with a battlepass. That's the only thing that'll give this thing a slim chance of making its money back
yurinka
Member
She was the creative director of The Final Shape, which was highly praised and a big success.
The previous expansion before that, Lightfall, underperformed to the point of causing layoffs and changes in Bungie's management.
And well she is creative director, and was narrative director and narrative lead before that. Lead designer is a different role, it's the manager of the game designers. The narrative leads/directors are the ones in charge of the writing and cutscenes instead.
The creative directors are above the art, design or narrative teams. They give a creative/artistic direction to the heads of art, design, narrative etc. teams, who later are the ones who detail that in technical tasks and assign them to their teams members and overview them.
Depending on the project or the team, people typical get promoted to creative direction from art, design or narrative branches, but sometimes also coming from game direction.
The failed expansion that didn't meet expectations was Lightfall, and the super successful one was The Final Shape.
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Trogdor1123
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Lightfall was so terrible,.. cool concept. Terrible execution
MrRibeye
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DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
They should plan a whole transmedia universe. Animated shorts, HBO series, graphic novels, maybe some kind of augmented reality smartphone game. It has Star Wars-like potentialYes. I am convinced working on the narrative and emotional impact of the character backstories will save this game.
Tams
Member
"Creative Director" "Last Month" "Release Date September 23, 2025"
The new creative director looking for ideas:
Loomy
Thinks Microaggressions are Real
That's what I meant.
Witch Queen was very good, got people excited. Followed up with Lightfall. A bad expansion that disappointed a lot of people.
The fallout from Lightfall was that the follow-up - The Final Shape - sold around 30% less than Lightfall. Successful in execution, yeah but initially a commercial failure. That's part of the reason Bungie had a pretty big layoff about 2 months after Final Shape launched.
XERXES_89
Member
I can't understand the hate and negativity surrounding this game. I hope they can counter the hate and perception surrounding Marathon, because I don't think the game itself has as many problems as people think. Even with stolen art issue -a problem absolutlely fixable and less serious than people people believe or would like-, the art direction is the best of the generation by a mile. Good luck to the new director.
Honestly I would rebuild the entire game with whatever assets created into a old school SP+MP package like Halo Reach to regain people faith in the studio assuming it's good that is. I would pay Metal Eden, a similar looking game money than any GAAS only shooter.