That watching order sounds exhausting. My vote is for release order for movies and then just watch whatever TV you want (the Netflix stuff would also be better in release order).
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That watching order sounds exhausting. My vote is for release order for movies and then just watch whatever TV you want (the Netflix stuff would also be better in release order).
Tetsujin_MK
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Yeah I don't know why anyone would suggest a bloated viewing order that includes all the TV stuff.
Imagine doing that with comics though.
"Hey, I wanna get into Marvel comics, where should I start?"
"Read all 40,000 issues in chronological order, here's a list."
"..."
Although personally I've been thinking about going through a slightly different order once all the movies are out based on what the credits teases lead into.
For example in phase 2 instead of
Thor 2 -> Cap 2 -> Guardians -> Ultron
it would be
Thor 2 -> Guardians -> Cap 2 -> Ultron
Thor 2 has a mid-credits scene featuring the Collector, leading into Guardians and Cap 2 has a scene featuring Strucker and the twins, leading directly into Ultron. This has a more "logical" flow to me. Might also put GotG2 right after the first one.
Imagine doing that with comics though.
"Hey, I wanna get into Marvel comics, where should I start?"
"Read all 40,000 issues in chronological order, here's a list."
"..."
Although personally I've been thinking about going through a slightly different order once all the movies are out based on what the credits teases lead into.
For example in phase 2 instead of
Thor 2 -> Cap 2 -> Guardians -> Ultron
it would be
Thor 2 -> Guardians -> Cap 2 -> Ultron
Thor 2 has a mid-credits scene featuring the Collector, leading into Guardians and Cap 2 has a scene featuring Strucker and the twins, leading directly into Ultron. This has a more "logical" flow to me. Might also put GotG2 right after the first one.
The same can be said about Gunn, Waititi or Coogler... It was a bad timing for Wright, but it's clear that Marvel learned how to work with their directors.
Nah, considering they were more than happy to collaborate with Marvel Studios from the start and joined all those projects after there were already scripts being developed internally before them, I don't think the same can be said about them at all. It's silly to think that everyone has the same mentality when it comes to creative freedom. I don't think Marvel's approach to handling projects have changed at all. They just found more suitable partners.
Jeremy Latcham to Leave Marvel Studios for 20th Century Fox Deal
Hopefully part of a Fantastic Four deal? Crosses fingers.
Hopefully part of a Fantastic Four deal? Crosses fingers.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
We've got to stop equating anything related to Fox as being related to the FF man... Fox is a massive conglomerate
Baron von Loathsome
Member
MugiwaraCole
Member
I know he was joking. I'm not an idiot.
He's just very quickly become the Reggie Miller of the MCU; any time he opens his mouth, its to say something annoying, joking or not.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
No I'm totally with you. He's an uncomfortably itchy jumper in human form.
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
Finn Jones reminds me of the annoying people I went to secondary school with.
Jest Chillin
Member
There was nothing wrong with that Finn Jones quote at all. Especially when you read the actual article.
A lot of you have reached, "look at that bitch over there eating her crackers" level with regards to Jones. There's no reason for the animosity.
A lot of you have reached, "look at that bitch over there eating her crackers" level with regards to Jones. There's no reason for the animosity.
torre_avenue
Banned
Thor lives.
Because Thor is the only one who's actually made clear he wants to do Thor films until the day he dies.
Phil Coulson
Pepper Potts
If Steve goes he has to lift Mjölnir first.
If Tony dies, I expect it to be in saving Steve's life, and I also expect him to "live" on as an Ultron/Vision or a Jarvis/Karen.
I don't think Thor dying makes the same amount of narrative sense as the other two, but Ragnarok could change that. Thor hasn't had a really solid character arc yet, Tony and Steve have, and both feel headed for a heroic death.
We're at the part of the story where surprise twists are gonna be less satisfying than getting resolution on arcs, so while I'd be way more surprised if Thor dies, I doubt it'd land as hard as the other two.
Stark and Thor.
Oh jesus fucking h christ, this thread just turned into a war.....Pepsi over Coke? are you trying to be more evil than satan? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Conventions
j/k
though Coke > Pepsi is fact
As for the Edgar Wright thing...it's fairly simple. He had a vision for what he wanted to do with Ant-Man, Marvel said "sure, go for it!" and then Wright asked if the project could wait while he did something else. Marvel agreed...then Wright asked to put it on hold again while he did another thing. Marvel agreed, even though it meant changing Avengers. Then, by the time Wright decided to actually do Ant-Man, the MCU had been established. Marvel asked for some changes in Wright's original vision, Wright was against the changes. And that's that.
So, yeah, Marvel wasn't against what Wright wanted to do, but by the time Wright got around to it, it wouldn't work. Mind you, it wasn't Wright's style that Marvel was against, it was story and character.
With Coogler, Russos, Waititi, Reed, Black, etc...they come in, present Marvel with an idea, and then make it. I guarantee that if any of them waited 5+ years, some changes would be requested in their design.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
Yep.
Thor and Cap.
Thor's never been compelling or interesting - his character arc ended with The Dark World, where he's proven his worth to inherit the throne by forsaking it. Replace him with a new, female Thor. Probably not Jane, but Valkyrie or Sif or even some weird out there character like... I dunno. Hawkeye's wife.
Cap's boyscout routine has gotten old and the "man out of time stuff" has run its course. Pass the shield onto someone more dynamic. I'd love Falcon but the movie version is a bit flat and I doubt Marvel would tell the story that deserves to be told, so sure, Bucky, why not. Or maybe Black Widow or something. Captain Russian-America.
Tony's still the most interesting, dynamic character in the MCU. Move him to the background as a supporting character who suits up for the big events.
I feel I'd be totally up for Thor dying, if purely because I really want to get to Jane Foster Thor, which has proved to be a version of that particular character I've gravitated towards much more strongly, in comparison to Thor Odinson, who to me just comes across as a slightly uninteresting, generic, muscle-bound hero we've seen in various superhero media countless times. Conversely, Jane as Thor is just a much more interesting spin on the formula.
Obviously, Jane Foster herself probably wouldn't be the one who would get to wield the hammer...Natalie Portman has seemed increasingly disinterested in continuing on with these movies and most fans aren't a particularly huge fan of her version of the character....even though, like with the previous Thor films, I think the problems with the character lie predominately in the writing, there's only so much an actor can do with flimsy material.
But even so, a cancer-ridden woman who takes up the hammer as a means of doing some real good in the world, even though it comes at the ultimate price where assuming the mantle is actually revealed to be slowly killing her? Sign me the hell up for that franchise.
Obviously, Jane Foster herself probably wouldn't be the one who would get to wield the hammer...Natalie Portman has seemed increasingly disinterested in continuing on with these movies and most fans aren't a particularly huge fan of her version of the character....even though, like with the previous Thor films, I think the problems with the character lie predominately in the writing, there's only so much an actor can do with flimsy material.
But even so, a cancer-ridden woman who takes up the hammer as a means of doing some real good in the world, even though it comes at the ultimate price where assuming the mantle is actually revealed to be slowly killing her? Sign me the hell up for that franchise.
Tony and Steve 'die'. Thor just fucks off to fix Asgard.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
shockthrill
Banned
so how do you rank the intellectual giants of the MCU in order, who is your top 5?
I think it makes more sense for him to die saving his protege Parker. The mentor relationship between them feels a lot more sincere and earned than it does with Scott/Hank.
Yeah, I was just goofing. Atwell's a wonderful actress and she'll be fine.
Her version of Peggy has also had a brilliant run. What started as a character who was viewed as little more as cursory interest in the first Captain America film has blossomed into a richly detailed and roundly engaging character with her own deep sense of personal history. Not only did she get her own television show, but she also went on to earn one of the most satisfying character arcs in the MCU, first being introduced to us when she was a young woman in the 1940s, whilst leaving us on her deathbed as a near centennial in 2016.
The MCU has been extremely good to Carter, as well as Atwell as the actress that got to play her. That said, I wouldn't say no to an Agent Carter two hour Netflix movie tying up some of the series' loose ends though, perhaps dealing with Carter's marriage to Daniel, intermixed with Carter leading the formation of the organization now known as S.H.I.E.L.D.
Her version of Peggy has also had a brilliant run. What started as a character who was viewed as little more as cursory interest in the first Captain America film has blossomed into a richly detailed and roundly engaging character with her own deep sense of personal history. Not only did she get her own television show, but she also went on to earn one of the most satisfying character arcs in the MCU, first being introduced to us when she was a young woman in the 1940s, whilst leaving us on her deathbed as a near centennial in 2016.
The MCU has been extremely good to Carter, as well as Atwell as the actress that got to play her. That said, I wouldn't say no to an Agent Carter two hour Netflix movie tying up some of the series' loose ends though, perhaps dealing with Carter's marriage to Daniel, intermixed with Carter leading the formation of the organization now known as S.H.I.E.L.D.
RUMOR: John Ridley's Secret Project Might Be Ms. Marvel (MCU Exchange)
Take it with a grain of salt. Comicbookmovie.com has also written about it.
I've since checked up on Reddit and the original post seem to have been removed. Personally I think this is just some random dude being bored on a Saturday evening. That said, I really want Marvel to do something with Kamala Khan soon.
Take it with a grain of salt. Comicbookmovie.com has also written about it.
I've since checked up on Reddit and the original post seem to have been removed. Personally I think this is just some random dude being bored on a Saturday evening. That said, I really want Marvel to do something with Kamala Khan soon.
I was watching this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhV4pIsE5X8&feature=youtu.be&app=desktop
Says Avengers took place on 4/25/11 and not 2012.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhV4pIsE5X8&feature=youtu.be&app=desktop
Says Avengers took place on 4/25/11 and not 2012.
torre_avenue
Banned
Interesting. It's been rumored for a while hat was his secret project.
That would explain the fact that Marvel is pushing Kamala in their merch.
That would explain the fact that Marvel is pushing Kamala in their merch.
kunonabi
Member
It really has. The guy seems like he's really trying his best and he seems to have some good chemistry with Colter already. I'm new to the young Danny angle but he made me like it more than I thought I would going in.
Green Mamba
Member
Seems fake, but Kamala being wasted on TV Marvel purgatory would be the absolute worst thing to happen to her.
I'm callin shenanigansRUMOR: John Ridley's Secret Project Might Be Ms. Marvel (MCU Exchange)
Take it with a grain of salt. Comicbookmovie.com has also written about it.
I've since checked up on Reddit and the original post seem to have been removed. Personally I think this is just some random dude being bored on a Saturday evening. That said, I really want Marvel to do something with Kamala Khan soon.
kunonabi
Member
eh, she's in weird place because she's not really worth making films out of but her powers aren't suited for TV either. An animated cartoon is probably the best place for her.
In what world is she "not really worth making films out of"?
I think he means that she is to small scale. Even smaller the Streetlevel stuff Spider-Man does usually.
We've had Spider-Man movies with low level villains that worked just fine. Made a shit ton of money actually. There's no reason they couldn't adjust things in that regard anyway.
I see plenty of reasons why a Kamala Khan movie might be years away or never happen, but none of it has anything to do with her not being worth it.
Chained Prometheus
Member
Tony and Steve.
Tony dies first by saving either Steve or Peter. This would bring one of his two big connections in the MCU to a close (either he dies saving his long-time friend/rival and resolves their conflict from Civil War or he dies saving his protege). Steve then also dies when he finally faces Thanos (and has had a chance to wield Mjonir at some point in the final battle).
Thor lives and goes off to rule Asgard.
This is like the worst idea. I want live-action Kamala.
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