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Marvel going street level w/ Netflix (Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist)

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bill0527

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bronson said:
Daredevil on TV has worked so well in the past

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Yeah and TV is exactly the same as it was in 1978.
 
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ivysaur12 said:
As someone who's not a comic book guy, I'd prefer Netflix to keep making producing shows like OITNB or even House of Cards versus this. I just can't really get excited about more series based on comic book characters I don't have any particular allegiance to that are part of a universe I don't really care to explore.

I'm happy for you if you're a comic book fan, but I don't really know if it's worth getting excited about at the moment without even knowing who is attached to write/direct. Not to temper expectations, but...
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Think like this. If this works, it is such a huge victory for Netflix that you can expect that girl to stay in prison for the next 15 years of awesome lesbian adventures.
 
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Or even if you're not a fan of comic books but a fan of TV, hopefully you can still admire the ambition to greenlight four series and a miniseries at once, all sharing the same tied universe.
 
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hamchan said:
Or even if you're not a fan of comic books but a fan of TV, hopefully you can still admire the ambition to greenlight four series and a miniseries at once, all sharing the same tied universe.
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Yeah. This is important news for the TV medium as a whole. It's basically Disney picking a side on the Cable vs Internet thing.
 
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Slayven said:
Yeah but they re tied to teh CW
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Not entirely. Gotham is going to be on Fox and I believe Constantine was being shopped to CBS like the other Wonder Woman show before Amazon. The others are though. And honestly, being on CW hasn't hurt Arrow. Nikita is another show that shows how the CW can work just fine for projects like these.
 
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Sblargh said:
Yeah. This is important news for the TV medium as a whole. It's basically Disney picking a side on the Cable vs Internet thing.
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I thought that at first too, but it could very well be that they just don't see Netflix as competition to their big, network stuff. They probably pitched this around and Netflix gave them the best deal.
 
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ReiGun said:
Not entirely. Gotham is going to be on Fox and I believe Constantine was being shopped to CBS like the other Wonder Woman show before Amazon. The others are though. And honestly, being on CW hasn't hurt Arrow. Nikita is another show that shows how the CW can work just fine for projects like these.
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GMN said:
So am I the only one who thinks Shirld is ok or is the Internet just being the Internet?
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Have you seen Strike Back? THAT is the quality on a shoestring budget SHIELD "should" be. It isn't.

This is a great fricken day to be a geek.


Now...gotta think of casting for each show. Ha ha ha....Ben Afflack is busy with DC so we don't have to worry about him trying out for DD.

While we're at it, PLEASE make sure anyone picked to be DD is actually athletic enough to play the character. DD is kinda like a dancer that can fight. He doesn't wear body armor.
 
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Mudcrab

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Okay so inspiration wise, we all agree they should take mostly from Bendis's Daredevil and Alias while also using mostly Brubaker and Fraction's Iron Fist, right?
 
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Ithil

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RobotNinjaHornets said:
Has anything like this ever happened before? As in a super-connected film and TV universe spanning multiple characters?

The closest thing I can think of is Star Trek, and even then I don't really think that's the same
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Never to this scale, no. Star Trek is the closest, but that is a straight "TV show --> Movies of TV show ---> Sequel TV Show --->Movies of sequal TV shows" line. Still was unheard of, but this movie/network TV/Netflix TV hybrid adaptation of a huge property (Marvel universe that is) has never been done before.

I don't see any way that these Netflix shows aren't part of the MCU, so basically it's going to be one huge live action universe by the time they start working on Avengers 3.
 
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Funky Papa said:
Aw. Don't be such a sourpuss, ivy.
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It's unfortunate. It's more the proliferation of comic book properties instead of more original content. That's what I was hoping Netflix would do. Sure, an adaption here or there is fine, but on this level? That doesn't sit well.
 
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ivysaur12 said:
It's unfortunate. It's more the proliferation of comic book properties instead of more original content. That's what I was hoping Netflix would do. Sure, an adaption here or there is fine, but on this level? That doesn't sit well.
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What if it all turns out to be really fantastic, well crafted television?
 
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Ithil

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ivysaur12 said:
It's unfortunate. It's more the proliferation of comic book properties instead of more original content. That's what I was hoping Netflix would do. Sure, an adaption here or there is fine, but on this level? That doesn't sit well.
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Most of these shows have never been adapted like this before, and they are a diverse selection. I don't see the problem.
I'd look forward to seeing a connected and shared TV universe.
 
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Funky Papa

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ivysaur12 said:
It's unfortunate. It's more the proliferation of comic book properties instead of more original content. That's what I was hoping Netflix would do. Sure, an adaption here or there is fine, but on this level? That doesn't sit well.
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Honestly, I feel like this superhero push could help the creation of new original content by pushing the boundaries even further. After all, there are only so many a and b listers in DC and Marvel's roosters.
 
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ivysaur12

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Duane Cunningham said:
What if it all turns out to be really fantastic, well crafted television?
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Considering that no one is even attached to write, I'll reserve judgment. Again, this seems like the same genesis as SHIELD: a series created in a board room than an actual, organic pitch and creative endeavor from a writer and director.

And it's still diverting resources from the potential for more original stories.

I don't really care about the MCU, I've always found comics to be a bit hokey, and I'm dubious on their transition into quality TV.
 
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ivysaur12 said:
It's unfortunate. It's more the proliferation of comic book properties instead of more original content. That's what I was hoping Netflix would do. Sure, an adaption here or there is fine, but on this level? That doesn't sit well.
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The way I see it is, Netflix doesn't have the same scheduling limitations of something like HBO. Just because they do one thing doesn't exclude them from doing others. If this turns out to be hugely successful for Netflix, than a chunk of the profits could easily be funneled into funding smaller, original projects. Netflix seems like the type of company willing to take those chances.
 
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Funky Papa

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ivysaur12 said:
Considering that no one is even attached to write, I'll reserve judgment. Again, this seems like the same genesis as SHIELD: a series created in a board room than an actual, organic pitch and creative endeavor from a writer and director.

And it's still diverting resources from the potential for more original stories.

I don't really care about the MCU, I've always found comics to be a bit hokey, and I'm dubious on their transition into quality TV.
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Come by Arrow-GAF. We'll give you the pep talk.
 
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Personally, I just don't think live action comic book shows can ever work. The stories are not nuanced enough to appeal to critics and directors are constrained in what they can do because of budgets and not infringing on 'canon'.

I'd much rather these all be animated.
 
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Ithil

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ToxicAdam said:
Personally, I just don't think live action comic book shows can ever work. The stories are not nuanced enough to appeal to critics and directors are constrained in what they can do because of budgets and not infringing on 'canon'.

I'd much rather these all be animated.
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See:
Arrow.
 
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anaron

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These properties are amongst Marvel's finest and feature diverse and fresh leads through Luke and Jessica. In addition to what Netflix's environment can offer for quality and creative freedom, I'm pretty damn jazzed about all of this.
 
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Mariolee

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athevolunteer said:
We don't really know yet, but there is going to be a Flash spin-off too.
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If WB gets its shit together and somehow ties in Arrow, the Flash series, and the new Gotham P.D. show together in with the new DC films, it'll already have a pretty well established continuity to work off of. I don't know the logistics of doing something cross-network like that (Arrow and Flash being on CW and Gotham P.D. being on Fox) but they'd be crazy not to try something like that when Marvel has all this shit going on with SHIELD and now these four new shows.

The main thing that makes me doubt this will happen is the fact that the CW is already trying to fast track Amazon, a Wonder Woman show, while it seems like DC is trying to put Wonder Woman seemingly in Man of Steel 2 with Jaimie Alexander, who probably wouldn't be too game for going from film to TV so it seems to imply these might be different universes which would be disappointing to say the least. But first and foremost, make quality entertainment, and hopefully make connections after.
 
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ToxicAdam said:
Personally, I just don't think live action comic book shows can ever work. The stories are not nuanced enough to appeal to critics and directors are constrained in what they can do because of budgets and not infringing on 'canon'.

I'd much rather these all be animated.
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Jessica Jones *is* made for TV. Her original MAX outing reads like a TV script. It's incredible.
 
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shield

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Anyone know if this takes place within the Marvel Cinematic Universe, or it's own self contained universe? I'm assuming it's within the MCU but the press release doesn't make it 100% clear.
 
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ivysaur12 said:
As someone who's not a comic book guy, I'd prefer Netflix to keep making producing shows like OITNB or even House of Cards versus this. I just can't really get excited about more series based on comic book characters I don't have any particular allegiance to that are part of a universe I don't really care to explore.

I'm happy for you if you're a comic book fan, but I don't really know if it's worth getting excited about at the moment without even knowing who is attached to write/direct. Not to temper expectations, but...
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Good to see that "comic books" still constitute "subject matter" instead of "medium" to people.

All four of these books/characs have featured stories on par with any season of acclaimed contemporary drama.
 
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Azuran

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Yes, this is just what I been asking for. Thank you based Marvel for making my dreams come true.

Iron Fist and Daredevil :D
 
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Funky Papa

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shield said:
Anyone know if this takes place within the Marvel Cinematic Universe, or it's own self contained universe? I'm assuming it's within the MCU but the press release doesn't make it 100% clear.
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Disney is all about the MCU. There's no other way around with them. The apocryphal shit is for the philistines at Fox and Sony.
 
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