peanutbutterlatte
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Why does Iron Fist need a high budget again? And honestly a TV series seems to solve the problems so many film adaptations have with cramming a huge plot into a couple of hours.
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Marvel going street level w/ Netflix (Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist)
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Why does Iron Fist need a high budget again? And honestly a TV series seems to solve the problems so many film adaptations have with cramming a huge plot into a couple of hours.
Tim the Wiz
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Yup. With fantasy and sci-fi in general, people base their understanding of genre on the superficial generic stuff which typically crosses over into the mainstream conscience. Just delve a little deeper and there's plenty of quality material ripe to be properly adapted into live action. The same can be said for comic books or graphic novels which, as you note, don't make up a genre category but rather a medium. (The rewards gained by the risk of the first Iron Man movie back this up.) Now, whether or not Hollywood can succeed in translating this into quality end-product regularly is a different conversation. But Marvel has earned a lot of credit recently (aside from the mediocre SHIELD) and the kind of long-form, serialized viewing experience Netflix supports is potentially the perfect platform.
SpiderJerusalem
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I'd bet punisher pops on Daredevil for an episode or something
Hot Coldman
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so you get to see him fight a giant fucking dragon and rip its heart out
NotTheGuyYouKill
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They should do a Hawkeye show starring Jensen Ackles based on Fraction's current series.
But here's the thing: if all the shows listed pan out and are of good to great quality, will it matter if they are all connected? I'd argue it doesn't. That is seven shows across three networks, with three of them based on A-List DC properties. That's a damn good position to be in, especially as DC is gearing up to (hopefully) generate new interest in their characters with the Justice League movie.
The interconnected universe stuff is fun and I enjoy it as much as the next person, but it is not the end all be all and if Agents of SHIELD is any indication, it's not even a guarantee of quality. I give Marvel props for having and executing a damn fine plan, but I DC is working themselves into a good place. They're just going about it in a different manner.
yeah, that's the only major drawback in this news for me. If they're doing Iron Fist as a tv series, then the movie they were writing based on the Immortal comic is dead.
DonasaurusRex
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Now that I think about it, if these are a hit, the porn parodys have great names especially Iron Fist.
Because you can make one a success at the international box office unlike the other three which have a less spectacular story to tell. Also China.
Dwayne is black, but I know what you're saying.
My educated, but baseless guess is that they'll end the whole thing by Avengers 3 and then reboot it all with a brand new phase 1 (now designed from scratch to be one continuity).
Bobby Roberts
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Yup.
Both comics readers and now movie viewers have been eased into the concept of starting everything over after a decade. Nobody's going to complain. In fact, they'll likely welcome it.
edit: If I didn't want Terry Crews to play Ben Grimm in Fantastic Four so much, I'd suggest Terry Crews for Luke Cage.
Well, they're also kind of character-driven series. There will be fights, sure, but an Daredevil episode can easily spend a lot of time being "only" a show about a lawyer. And his kind of action don't require giant robots, explosions, or anything that demands good CGI, large sets, etc.;
Hot Coldman
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ratcliffja
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He's half black, half Samoan I believe.
DonasaurusRex
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That would make too much sense, hopefully they bring in other characters to the tv universe though the show is solid and they could expand it , I see they have black canary on there now, and plan to develop speedy/red arrow. Maybe Huntress or The Question will show up next.
peanutbutterlatte
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A superhero story where the entire world isn't at stake? Yay, sign me up.
It already is one continuity?
Unless you're talking about including X-Men and Spider-Man, which FOX and Sony are never going to give up.
Huntress already showed up in season one.
The characters are certainly strong enough to sustain a few episodes without action as well, well if the scripts are good enough.
It....already is? They started this plan back in 2006, and began it with Iron Man. Everything since then has been developed as one continuity.
Anticitizen One
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Netflix should do the same deal for that Star Wars TV series that already is fully scripted and had pre production work done.
I may be wrong, but I don't think it started this way. Iirc (but I may be recalling it wrong), it was the success of the Iron Man 1 movie that made them try to make this a continuity. My guess is that when they reboot everything, they'll start right of the bat with a multi-character movie and really push the notion that all of these happen in the same universe, beyond cameos and references.
But this is just me trying to guess stuff.
Edit: Well, apparenyl I was wrong and they did start the idea of the continuity with Iron Man 1. Sorry.
Father_Brain
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No, you're completely off. They announced, in broad strokes, their plans for Phase 1 of the MCU (Thor, Captain America, Iron Man, Hulk, and Ant-Man solo films, leading to Avengers in 2011/2012) all the way back in 2006.
DC, on the other hand... it's fairly obvious that Man of Steel was not conceived, written, or shot as the starting point for a broader shared DCCU. They're just desperate to have a Justice League film in theaters by 2017, 2018 at the latest.
Hot Coldman
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Ah, that rings a bell actually. Cool.
DonasaurusRex
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then all we need is question and nightwing ...until it gets uber popular and then DC shoehorns superman and shit into it and ruins it all. Enjoy it while it lasts.
Mo Man XIII
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Thank you so much for the great news! Cage and Iron Fist! Man I hope for a team up.
Deified Data
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How in the fuck are street Marvel series leading up to a Defenders series? Are they just going to run across Dr. Strange, Silver Surfer, Hulk, and Namor along the way?
Basically my dream series.
Bobby Roberts
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Probably not gonna be those Defenders, then.
ZeroGravity
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SHIELD has been awesome so far, so I'm down with anything else Marvel wants to do with TV at this point.
Deified Data
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I mean, Heroes for Hire is the street team. Why not culminate in a Heroes for Hire series? Bizarre choice.
BenjaminBirdie
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It's okay to get excited when the source material of all four characs have had storylines that rival any acclaimed TV drama in ways the Avengers never have.
Unless they are charging people, it would be odd explaining to non-comic book people why they are called "Heroes for Hire" I guess.
Marvel Knights could possibly be a better choice of name, but maybe too cheesy.
Why would we need Question and Nightwing of all characters? I mean, they're cool and all, but the show doesn't really need the. The vigilantes it has are enough to carry it.
WanderingWind
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Oh fuck yes. A Heroes for Hire series makes total sense. And I'm already stalking Waid so he can contribute to the screenwriting for Daredevil. I sent him cookies.
It's more of Marvel Knights under another name rather than the comic's Defenders.
I could see - assuming they're successful - the Iron Fist, Luke Cage, and Jessica Jones shows merging into a Heroes for Hire series as their collective second season.
This is some pretty exciting news. I'm looking forward to the final products. I have to admit though I've never heard of Jessica Jones before. Who is she and why should I be hype about her? I dunno why but it sounds a bit like a pornstar name :/
First I'm hearing about a lot of these. I assume Gotham will be a Batman series but there are so many ways you could take it. Any details? Also, somebody actually got off their ass and is putting together a Wonder Woman show? Neat! I could give two shits about Constantine though and I have no idea what Hourmen would be about.
First I'm hearing about a lot of these. I assume Gotham will be a Batman series but there are so many ways you could take it. Any details? Also, somebody actually got off their ass and is putting together a Wonder Woman show? Neat! I could give two shits about Constantine though and I have no idea what Hourmen would be about.
Choppasmith
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Yes yes yes! Such great news. At least this might satisfy those Marvel fans who keep wanting superheroes.to show up in Agents of Shield. So excited for Iron Fist and Luke Cage (though surprised they're making them separate)
Bobby Roberts
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It's probably some of Bendis' best writing ever. Kinda legitimized the MAX series, too. Personally, I think she's one of the best characters in the Marvel U based solely on that MAX run.
Because it is. All the teams in Marvel comics come in multiple configurations. This is a new configuration. Silver Surfer is at Fox, Hulk is already an Avenger, Namor and Dr. Strange are probably too big for TV series' and would get standalone films. They change things. It's an adaptation. We've been through this.
WanderingWind
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Jessica Jones is a superhero who went by the name Jewel. Minor powers. She was captured for an extended time by the grossest villain in existence, Purple Man, who specializes in controlling minds and capturing women for....well...his sick motives. He never actually did that to Jones in the comics, but made her watch as he raped dozens of women and made her join in some sick stuff. She eventually broke free and quit being a super hero. She then opened a detective agency, which failed because, frankly, she was just a bit broken. She's come through on the other side of the situation now and married Luke Cage and has a child with him.
In short, pretty heavy shit for comics and would make a fairly dark television show.
Gotham is going to be about Gordan as in officer in Gotham City before Batman appears. So kinda like a batman-less Gotham Central.
Amazon has been in development since around the time Arrow premiered. They were casting for the pilot before production was halted because reasons. The show is still on the table, but as usual, WB/DC appear scared shitless to do anything with Wonder Woman.
Hourman, if I'm remembering the press release correctly, is about a detective who can see into the future and has an hour to solve the crimes that he sees. So a pretty big retooling of the comic character.
Coffee Dog
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I am fairly confident that eventually Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, and Iron Fist are eventually going to be rolled into one series.
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