"God's Beard!"
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That's why it's better to do H xx Mighty Strike M. You can see if they're blocking, then do a tick/kara throw.jdub03 said:
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Prototype-03
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rivals said:
The real proper way is to change buttons as necessary but I guess this is okay too.
"God's Beard!"
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I'm pretty sure that's what Marn means by move your hands around.Prototype-03 said:
"God's Beard!"
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Ok so I'm building my revised BnB on paper because my old one was a little short of a kill combo, and I think I've got a good idea on what I want. I don't know if this all works, I might have to lose a couple hits for hitstun or the amount of time devil trigger lasts, but this seems like it should work on all characters from mid screen:
Jill/Dante:
2LMH4H(Feral Crouch Cancel), Somersault Kick(Jump Cancel), Flip Kick, Low Sweep(Feral Crouch Cancel), Somersault Kick(Jump Cancel), jHS, H4H xx Cartwheel Kick, Raven Spike DHC Devil Trigger, Cold Shower xx Stinger(Bold Cancel), Volcano(Jump Cancel), jM(Double Jump), jH xx Air Play, jH xx Killer Bee, A1(Arrow Kick), S, jH xx Air Raid
If anyone has any insight let me know. This should have a lot of flexibility and can pretty much start from anything.
Jill/Dante:
2LMH4H(Feral Crouch Cancel), Somersault Kick(Jump Cancel), Flip Kick, Low Sweep(Feral Crouch Cancel), Somersault Kick(Jump Cancel), jHS, H4H xx Cartwheel Kick, Raven Spike DHC Devil Trigger, Cold Shower xx Stinger(Bold Cancel), Volcano(Jump Cancel), jM(Double Jump), jH xx Air Play, jH xx Killer Bee, A1(Arrow Kick), S, jH xx Air Raid
If anyone has any insight let me know. This should have a lot of flexibility and can pretty much start from anything.
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Dahbomb said:
You think it would be better to use the air raid earlier in the combo and extend from it then? Because as it is, the hitstun is gone when I use it.
Karsticles
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In the two instances this has happened to me, I sent a PSN message apologizing.
You'll get used to it.
But that takes work! I'd rather just go without a button!
I don't even play Zero.
"God's Beard!"
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Hooooly fuck, Dahbomb.
S, M(double jump) H xx Air Raid, H xx Air Raid, H xx Killer Bee does sooo much Damage :-o
thanks man! I wonder if I can get more canceling the last H into flight...
S, M(double jump) H xx Air Raid, H xx Air Raid, H xx Killer Bee does sooo much Damage :-o
thanks man! I wonder if I can get more canceling the last H into flight...
Yes, replace Air Play with Air Raid earlier in the combo. You won't be able to Killer Bee directly after it but you will go into standing mode and launcher from there.God's Beard said:
I can't comment on your set up because I haven't tried it after a Jill hyper follow up. I just know that Devil Trigger, M, H, Stinger, Bold Cancel, Volcano, Jump cancel, j.M, Air Raid, j.H, S into air combo + OTG follow up of choice works.
Yeah there are many variations you can do this in, there are no real set combos with Dante. My friend claims that he can do like 6 Air Raids in one combo. :/ I will have to call him out on him some day.
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Dahbomb said:
Apparently I can
I said that I don't know after an OTG follow up from the Jill combo because Killer Bee counts as a ground bounce but it DOES work if you just do the combo standalone.
You can just as easily do: Devil Trigger, M, H, Stinger, Bold Cancel, Volcano, Jump cancel, j.M, Air Raid, j.H, S , j.M, Killer Bee, S into air combo of choice.
And if you totally want to style on fools, you can do something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0U-yz4twbA&feature=related
You can just as easily do: Devil Trigger, M, H, Stinger, Bold Cancel, Volcano, Jump cancel, j.M, Air Raid, j.H, S , j.M, Killer Bee, S into air combo of choice.
And if you totally want to style on fools, you can do something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0U-yz4twbA&feature=related
Wolverine/Storm/Akuma
She Hulk/Amaterasu/Tron Bonne
Spider Man/Deadpool/Iron Man
Thor/Chris/Hsien Ko
He's totally serious face with the first one though. I know on WNF he lost to Clockw0rk using the She Hulk team and was forced to use his first one, barely winning out his two matches. First one uses the DHC glitch that's why it's more powerful.
She Hulk/Amaterasu/Tron Bonne
Spider Man/Deadpool/Iron Man
Thor/Chris/Hsien Ko
He's totally serious face with the first one though. I know on WNF he lost to Clockw0rk using the She Hulk team and was forced to use his first one, barely winning out his two matches. First one uses the DHC glitch that's why it's more powerful.
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Dahbomb said:
Well, you can ground bounce after an OTG as long as you didn't use a ground bounce earlier in the combo. Usually I would with Jill, but I could replace it with Jam Session to get the hyper off. Doesn't really matter because generally I use the arrow kick assist during the Killer Bee to get a wall bounce. It's probably easier to learn the jam session timing, though.
Right. Which reminds me that you can also do Volcano -> Beehive back into Volcano->Beehive -> Hyper of choice as a finisher if you didn't use Killer Bee in the combo earlier.
Beehive's last hit causes ground bounce and is also an overhead. What's really weird is the Sky Dance bounce properties.
Beehive's last hit causes ground bounce and is also an overhead. What's really weird is the Sky Dance bounce properties.
Ogrekiller
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He also hasDahbomb said:
Zero/Felicia/Doom
Spiderman/Wesker/Magneto
Trish/Storm/Chun-Li
Guy's got more teams than Dante's got moves. And Dante's got hella lotta moves.
Prototype-03
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Ferrio said:Yep that's the one.
I wanna learn some of dante's flashy stuff, but it's brutal with any sorta of lag
I am THIS close to dropping viper... 1, because she's hard to use... 2, because of lag.
sixteen-bit
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Bionic arm is the reason my friends no longer play this game with me.
I really loathe playing online because the latency is so atrocious, so now I think I'm just going to sell my copy :/
I really loathe playing online because the latency is so atrocious, so now I think I'm just going to sell my copy :/
Prototype-03 said:
It's frustrating cause I was trying one of his combos, you have to bold cancel into volcano and follow up with j.H. I was trying and and trying, and the j.H would rarely hit. I have my default training on 4 bars, turned it to 5.... hit the j.H almost every time.
Forgot about the 1st and 3rd ones but I personally haven't seen his 2nd team put to work. I think he has a MODOK/Captain America team in the lab as well.Ogrekiller said:
You gotta do it really fast, the second input I mean. Only way you can consistently get it out. An easier way to do it is forward, QCF+M then QCF+M. The forward from the previous input gets buffered into the next one.
I wanna learn the Dante flashy stuff too but it's A) Way too time consuming, want to learn other characters some what decent too B) Execution heavy and not worth the damage they give. Most of Dante's combos are excellent for stylin' on people but most of the time you can get way more damage out of simple Air Raid links.
One thing's for sure, Dante will always be a crowd pleaser. Yeah and I don't play online at all, lag pisses me off way too much especially in a game like this. Not that I could even play with my internet set up and area...
Prototype-03
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Ferrio said:
It's not just that either, I can't do supers properly. You have no idea how many times I did a super and got a dash instead.
sixteen-bit
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I cannot stand online. I'm going to make an effort to attend more locals.Grifter said:
BotoxAgent
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Grifter said:
yeah, fuck online. Probably the biggest reason I kinda stopped for a while.
But found a few local friends recently whom to play with it and the experience is so much better. I can do them Magneto flight combos now, whereas i dropped them a lot during online play...it was really hard to know whether my execution was ass or because of the lag. Well, my execution and overall MvC3 play still needs work of course, but online was definitely prohibitive in helping practice and improve.
i went back and forth a lot when sf4 came out, and that game's worse due to the links and tight hit-confirms, but adjusting to online just got me killed offline until i readjusted. was a vicious cycle. mvc3 allows me to play off muscle memory more so it's better in that sense.
capcom's just too proud for ggpo.
capcom's just too proud for ggpo.
Karsticles
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I wish I could say you're just bad, L2P, etc. Sigh. Especially when you dash with a character that can't cancel their dashes into crouching blocks...
Their PSN and XBL titles use it.
I, too, am part of the "no friends to play with" club...it's not a very fun club.
Ferrio said:
Probably better than switching actually, but I will say that I've never had more fun with a fighter. Helps that I'm no longer in NYC arcades just avoiding getting stabbed for beating people (true story). SF4 became a grind in person eventually but this game has so much randomness and BS that sitting around, passing a smoke, talking shit, and coming up with grudge/money matches has been a great experience so far. That may not sustain as people drop out/get discouraged, whereas online will always be there.
DryEyeRelief
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Dahbomb said:
Zero/Felicia/Dr Doom
Prototype-03
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Karsticles said:
I wish I could say that too, but this is the only game where I struggle to do that. Keep in mind that in BB and in SF4, you have to do qcfx2 and I'm fine with those. Hell, I'm fine with regular qcf in those games... but not in MvC3. Then again, it could be my joystick... It was doing some funky things yesterday night so I just switched it out for another one. We'll see how that goes.
Prototype-03
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Capcom needs to contact GGPO like Skullgirls.
http://shoryuken.com/content/skullgirls-using-ggpo-netplay-4129/
http://shoryuken.com/content/skullgirls-using-ggpo-netplay-4129/
mr. puppy said:
Certain cinematic supers will reset the damage/hit stun deterioration if you DHC from it into a super that does no damage. This allow you to continue the combo for big damage.
The example there would be Storms Gaia's Wrath(?) into Wolverine's Berserker charge.
I'm hoping Capcom fixes it.
Karsticles
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My stick is only 4 months old, so no excuses here. Let me know how it goes.
Capcom made some big deal claiming that GGPO wouldn't work with 3D games. Probably laziness in R&D costs on their part, since netcode shouldn't be doing more than transferring coordinates. I would rather Marvel 3 be 2D anyway...
DHCing out of a cinematic hyper resets damage and hitstun scaling. If you DHC into a buff hyper, like Berserker Charge, you get to pick up off of the DHC like it's a fresh combo, leading to easy character kills.
sixteen-bit
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Capcom actually did contact Ponder and licensed GGPO.Prototype-03 said:
...only to implement it in Final Fight XBLA/PSN
Karsticles
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FYI, apparently we got new events today. Someone claims one of them is an "all MODOK" arcade mode.
Prototype-03 said:
I don't know I want to agree and I understand that they are using prediction which is way better than Capcom's current solution in Super and MvC but I'm fairly certain they used it for the Final Fight remake and that was fucking awful. Anecdotal, I know, but trying to play through that with a friend was infuriating. That said, playing 3s etc on GGPO has worked a lot better for me than FF did, so it's possible Capcom botched the integration.
sixteen-bit
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Niitsuma is trolling us harder than Ono ever will.Karsticles said:
sixteen-bit
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I figure they're stealth distributed with the title updates, so messing with the clock won't result in anything.Grecco said:
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