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Marvel vs Capcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds |OT2| Sold exclusively at Dollar Tree

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Neki

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Professor Beef said:
That was months ago, though. While I'm gonna miss enzo and I hope it's not a perma, the mods have been cracking down on the sexy men/women/pornstars threads (even saying before the threads were closed that there are plenty to look at on the internet).
oh god, what happened to your avatar, oh god.
 

Dahbomb

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Mike Ross has definitely upgraded his Thor technology. He even used the j.H into Mighty Strike to full combo technique. Even has some cross ups using Sentinel drones plus some reset stuff.
 

Dahbomb

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LLND was the surprise of WNF. I mean when he beat Nerses in extreme clutch mode with Chris, I knew this guy was going places. I bet Nerses was shocked when he had 2 characters up and they instantly died from one Magnum shot, NO X Factor. Still was surprised to see him in the Final against Viscant and giving him the fight but losing to LVL3 XF Wesker. I

Viscant almost got eliminated by Choy very early in the WNF where he had lost Phoenix/Wesker and X Factor. Had to rely on Iron Man to clutch it out against Doom and he just barely made it.

Viscant also announcing that he is challenging any 3 man team in Los Angeles at 3v3 epic money match against him, Genghis and ChrisK. I wonder which 3 players would accept this challenge match seeing that's at least 2 best Marvel players in San Diego (Chris is sort of an unknown factor but Viscant says he is legit).
 

Alucrid

Banned
Why do I have the unstoppable urge to speak like wolverine whenever his dialogue comes up? I've also started to use "bub" a lot more. Oh god someone help me.
 

Dahbomb

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Grecco said:
Justin, Marn and Mike Ross should team up for that.
Replace Mike Ross with Floe and that's basically what Viscant said he was "expecting" from LA's best. And he is fairly confident in that match up.
 

Grecco

Member
Dahbomb said:
Replace Mike Ross with Floe and that's basically what Viscant said he was "expecting" from LA's best. And he is fairly confident in that match up.


Hopefully they stream that, would be fun to watch
 
Dahbomb said:
Mike Ross has definitely upgraded his Thor technology. He even used the j.H into Mighty Strike to full combo technique.

It blows my mind that it took this long. Every day 1 Thor in the world does flying jH and Mighty Strikes, but almost nobody does them together. I even posted about it here and on SRK the first week of the game, and nobody really payed much attention. One guy on the Thor forum said my combos were "weird".

EVERY THOR SHOULD DO IT. THERE IS NO REASON NOT TO.


...sorry, pet peeve.
 

JeTmAn81

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God's Beard said:
It blows my mind that it took this long. Every day 1 Thor in the world does flying jH and Mighty Strikes, but almost nobody does them together. I even posted about it here and on SRK the first week of the game, and nobody really payed much attention. One guy on the Thor forum said my combos were "weird".

EVERY THOR SHOULD DO IT. THERE IS NO REASON NOT TO.


...sorry, pet peeve.
Isn't that combo even in Thor's missions for the game? I remember having to do some jumping normal into Mighty Strike and practicing the timing several times.
 

Oldschoolgamer

The physical form of blasphemy
God's Beard said:
Not on a grounded opponent, I don't think?



That looks really hard for only 600k :/

Seems like it does the most up front damage than any of his combos, and you can do the hyper grav loop at the end of it.

I want to see Alioune's magnetic blast combo, then for him to link into this or the hyper grav loop.
 
Oldschoolgamer said:
I want to see Alioune's magnetic blast combo, then for him to link into this or the hyper grav loop.

I don't think you can, really. It uses up all the hitstun, maybe if you ended a couple hits early and used assists? I mean, Alioune already has variations on his blast combo that does 760k meterless with assists. That'd be cool if Mags could break the 800k meterless barrier and get rid of a lot of Akuma, Ammy and Zero free.
 

Dahbomb

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JeTmAn81 said:
Isn't that combo even in Thor's missions for the game? I remember having to do some jumping normal into Mighty Strike and practicing the timing several times.
It is but no one really takes Mission mode stuff seriously. That is actually pretty useful for Thor.

But seriously Mike Ross had some nice Thor set ups in there using Might Strike into reset situation, he was getting a lot of top players (including Viscant) with it. He is also using Hulk's command throw more now which is nice to see.

I liked what JChen said after the final was over that a lot of MVC3 (with some exception of course) has been "monkey see monkey do". It's like you can pin point times in the MVC3 meta game when people started picking particular characters when you can generally see in WNF (and many other tournaments across the country like Break Weekly) that it's those people who have put their time and effort in the characters/team of their choice who have been successful. Viscant, PGorath, LLND, Mike Ross, MarlinePie, Josh Wong, FlashMetroid etc. all using some characters that aren't popular yet being more successful with them. Viscant really applauded LLND on his efforts and rightfully so.

What was also funny was that Seth was around WNF and he was asking people's top 5. He doesn't seem to think Magneto is top 5 (that was a shocker to me, there is no way that Mags isn't top 5 personally), thinks that there is some hidden technology to Doom that no one has used yet and Iron Man/Thor are being slept on especially Iron Man (sort of agree).

Also anyone see that new CEO trailer? Holy shit fucking STACKED roster for MVC3:

Justin Wong
Floe
Mike Ross/Gootecks
Tokido
FlashMetroid
IFC Yipes,
Twisted Jago
Remix
Santhrax
SmoothViper
Mugetsu
Chris GODLIKE
NerdJosh
PRBalrog
Rico (for those that don't know, he plays Doom on POINT for TOD combos)


Streamed by Team Spooky

Commented by the VOICE OF MARVEL Yipes and JChen

That Magneto combo is sick and it seems like you can add a couple of reps of the Hyper Grav loops at the end of it. It's godlike because right now it builts a bit over 2 meters for the combo and with the few Hyper grav loops it will build 3 meters. That's just GODLIKE.
 

LakeEarth

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I can't wait to see Tokido take on some US fools. From the vids we've seen, I'm sure he'll get far.

The only person who looks missing from that list is Marn.
 

Grecco

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Dahbomb said:
It is but no one really takes Mission mode stuff seriously. That is actually pretty useful for Thor.

But seriously Mike Ross had some nice Thor set ups in there using Might Strike into reset situation, he was getting a lot of top players (including Viscant) with it. He is also using Hulk's command throw more now which is nice to see.

I liked what JChen said after the final was over that a lot of MVC3 (with some exception of course) has been "monkey see monkey do". It's like you can pin point times in the MVC3 meta game when people started picking particular characters when you can generally see in WNF (and many other tournaments across the country like Break Weekly) that it's those people who have put their time and effort in the characters/team of their choice who have been successful. Viscant, PGorath, LLND, Mike Ross, MarlinePie, Josh Wong, FlashMetroid etc. all using some characters that aren't popular yet being more successful with them. Viscant really applauded LLND on his efforts and rightfully so.

What was also funny was that Seth was around WNF and he was asking people's top 5. He doesn't seem to think Magneto is top 5 (that was a shocker to me, there is no way that Mags isn't top 5 personally), thinks that there is some hidden technology to Doom that no one has used yet and Iron Man/Thor are being slept on especially Iron Man (sort of agree).

Also anyone see that new CEO trailer? Holy shit fucking STACKED roster for MVC3:

Justin Wong
Floe
Mike Ross/Gootecks
Tokido
FlashMetroid
IFC Yipes,
Twisted Jago
Remix
Santhrax
SmoothViper
Mugetsu
Chris GODLIKE
NerdJosh
PRBalrog
Rico (for those that don't know, he plays Doom on POINT for TOD combos)


Streamed by Team Spooky

Commented by the VOICE OF MARVEL Yipes and JChen

That Magneto combo is sick and it seems like you can add a couple of reps of the Hyper Grav loops at the end of it. It's godlike because right now it builts a bit over 2 meters for the combo and with the few Hyper grav loops it will build 3 meters. That's just GODLIKE.


Yeah Cant believe CEO and ReveLAtions are happening the same weekened since a good chunk of the players will be at CEO. Spread those tourneys out!
 

LakeEarth

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black_vegeta said:
Alright, I want to see Mike Ross dropped the Randy Savage (with Thor) elbow a million times from here on out.

RIP "Macho Man" Randy Savage. :(
Respect.

Although LLND shut that shit down with Ammy's counter.
 

Dahbomb

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LakeEarth said:
I can't wait to see Tokido take on some US fools. From the vids we've seen, I'm sure he'll get far.

The only person who looks missing from that list is Marn.
Vincent, Genghis, Clockwork, Tatsu, Combofiend, Andy OCR, MarlinPie, MastaCJ, Rahsaan, Honzo Gonzo, Filipino Champ, Josh Wong, Big Marcus.

Tokido has a lot of competition there though.
 

LakeEarth

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Dahbomb said:
Vincent, Genghis, Clockwork, MarlinPie, MastaCJ, Rahsaan, Honzo Gonzo, Filipino Champ, Josh Wong, Big Marcus.

Tokido has a lot of competition there though.
Oh yeah, I'm sure it won't be a cake walk. But I think his "get a hit, x-factor to kill point character" strategy is solid. And when that doesn't work, PHEONIX!
 

Dahbomb

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I like Tokido's strategy of using Phoenix more as bait/back up than main strategy. His actual team isn't crippled this way and he is going to throw off a lot of people until someone figures it out.

I already play some Thor. I am not that good with him but I get some work done with him.

And Seth is 100% right about Thor being able to grab someone from full screen if they are just standing there (you need something like UniBeam to set it up). It's tri-dash in L (really close to the ground) which causes Thor to slide forward, then do the Kara throw (d+H ~ HCB + H). I haven't been able to do this in a live match but it's physically possible. You can do something similar with his grab hyper too, same inputs.

I may use Thor someday with Tron because Tron's Flame isn't really active for that long yet players are so scared of it that they block it longer than they should which give enough time for the command throw (which is essentially the cornerstone of the whole She Hulk/Tron game). Same thing for when they are in the air. Similar strategy if they try to push block Tron Assist, it's a free grapple.
 

Alucrid

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Dahbomb said:
I like Tokido's strategy of using Phoenix more as bait/back up than main strategy. His actual team isn't crippled this way and he is going to throw off a lot of people until someone figures it out.

I already play some Thor. I am not that good with him but I get some work done with him.

But..what did you just do?
 

Dahbomb

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Easier said than done of course. Tokido's Wolverine is so menacing that you are going to be so focused on killing him that you will forget that he ALSO has a Phoenix at anchor spot.

It's the same deal with trying to snap in Phoenix. You KNOW that is the best strategy for beating her but it never works out that way and you end up being at a meter disadvantage if you don't get the kill on her and she turns Dark.
 
The reason I dropped Thor is that his cool grab setups are too easy to break, and his resets aren't really anything other characters can't do. His only really unique tool is his aerial command grab, but setting it up can be difficult with so many dominant air moves and characters with great mobility options. Things like Ammy's air throw and Dante's Hammer are a nightmare.

Thor has to constantly adjust his game dramatically to win. Tridashes, flight, hammer bombs, mighty strike, mighty spark. It takes a lot of patience and yomi to pull it out with him. There are tons of tricks with Thor to get the command grab and hyper grab, but most of them are just that, tricks. He's a good character that has a lot of tools people don't use yet, but I don't know that he has the consistent game plan you need to keep winning.
 

Dahbomb

Member
The high health and high overall damage is what allows him to take those risks for resets/command grab set ups. I definitely agree with you on all those points though, about the only way to set up a reset in the air with Thor is to use Might Strike, guess the air recovery correctly and not get air thrown before going for the command throw reset.

On the note of Revelations/CEO, it seems CEO is more of a MVC3 tournament and Revelations is more of a SF4 tournament. You can tell by the people in attendance although Revelations also has Combofiend in attendance along with other prominent MVC3 players. Revelations has a big prize money for SF4 because it's date was sent way back in January I believe and they didn't anticipate MVC3 actually being bigger than SF4.
 

Oldschoolgamer

The physical form of blasphemy
So, I'm trying out Phoenix for the second slot, between Magnus and Dorm (maybe wesker). I take it her trap assist is best?

Magnu: Hyper Grav
Phoenix: ???
Dorm: Dark Hole / Wesker : Gunshot.

I'm not even sure where to start with her, but she's fun.

Caj814 said:
MvC3 X-men Rising
My new cmv is up. Hope you all enjoy.

Oh shit swag, god damn.

Berserker Slash -> Hyper grav was mad fly.
 

LakeEarth

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With Pheonix, I think you should only call out her assist for combos. One bad call / random beam super and she's gone. So figure out which one is best for the combos you want to use.
 
haunts said:
Some nice anti-Dark Phoenix play there.

So, what are the rules for tiger kneeing moves anyway? Like I've read that to TK Zero's Raikousen, which is normally a dragon punch (623P), should be TK's by inputting 6239P. The question is, how lenient is that? Are you allowed to hit 6 in between the 3 and 9? Do you have to return to neutral before hitting 9 (or another up-direction, I assume those work too)?

Edit: Seems like if I do a regular dragon punch motion, then go straight to the opposite corner (up-back) and then hit the attack button, that works pretty well.
 
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