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Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales - Digital Foundry Tech Review - Welcome To The Next Generation
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DonJorginho
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It's okay mate! Some people on here would probably be stupid enough to think that!Sorry, man, sometimes it's difficult to catch that without a '/s'.
This game looks amazing, PS5 definitely has one of the best launch lineups of all time, if not the best.
quickwhips
Member
Why does everything in that gif look better than the shitty costume design. Wtf
Insomniac Dev
On console compared to what ? he talk like there are a dozen of console games
that have RT
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THEAP99
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MasterCornholio
Member
Compared to Watchdogs I'm guessing. The Medium was also supposed to have Ray Tracing but it was delayed to next year. Then there's Devil May Cry Special Edition which does have Ray Tracing on the PS5 at launch.
Other than that I don't know of any other console games they have it at launch.
I mean theres Ratchet and Clank but that's not a launch title.
Polygonal_Sprite
Gold Member
Do me a fucking favour. You went on and on and on for months that PS5 wasn't powerful enough for even native 4k games aswell as RT because your precious 2080ti couldn't do it. You were wrong. Admit it, apologise and move on.
MasterCornholio
Member
Does the 2080Ti have dedicated Ray Tracing hardware?
Just trying to figure out if that's the reason why the PS5 is doing ray tracing this early.
Vick
Member
Damn man, these last couple of days must have been rough for him. This is exactly how i picture the thing, with Cerny being the man holding the paper:
Wandering Leopard
Member
I disagree. Also, developers should be talking up the games they've released (this isn't anything new).
MasterCornholio
Member
Sony fanboys acting like RT reflections are the most impressive use of the tech
It looks great but has nothing on games that use things like RT GI, or even AO, and many games use multiple techniques!
I mean Digital Foundry did say that it was pretty good.
Does that bother you?
BlueXImpulse
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Bo_Hazem
Banned
Yo ass better stop making fun of BG3 it’s the most fun I’ve had with any game in a long time. I did however laugh at the post
Well, it can be so much fun, but I don't play those games even if given for free. But you and
MasterCornholio
didn't get the context. 
Baldur's Gate 3: A Next-Gen Graphical Showcase
All: I wanted to give it a few days of playing this game and studying all the graphics work that Larian Studios put into the Divinity 4.0 before finding it worthy of creating a thread about the game. While it's still in Early Access and there are bugs/optimizations that need to be worked out...
Imaging calling that next gen graphical showcase while shitting on Spiderman MM.
Yup, biggest visual improvements will be the shift to RT GI and shadowing .Sony fanboys acting like RT reflections are the most impressive use of the tech
It looks great but has nothing on games that use things like RT GI, or even AO, and many games use multiple techniques!
MasterCornholio
Member
Well, it can be so much fun, but I don't play those games even if given for free. But you and
Baldur's Gate 3: A Next-Gen Graphical Showcase
All: I wanted to give it a few days of playing this game and studying all the graphics work that Larian Studios put into the Divinity 4.0 before finding it worthy of creating a thread about the game. While it's still in Early Access and there are bugs/optimizations that need to be worked out...www.neogaf.com
Imaging calling that next gen graphical showcase while shitting on Spiderman MM.
I have him on ignore.
Banned for what? Being right? Raytracing has been consistently downplayed and dismissed on this site. Now as soon as people start to see the benefit we jump right to 'Raytracing is awesome but only in Sony games'. The hypocrisy is pretty stark.
Now you want him banned for daring to notice and comment on it? Sheesh.
Panajev2001a
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MasterCornholio
Member
Don't you mean that ray tracing was constantly being dismissed and downplayed on the PS5? I remember one of the first rumors was that the PS5 wouldn't be capable of it.
Bo_Hazem
that's exactly the kind of thing I'm making a reference to.
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Bo_Hazem
Banned
It was getting heavily downplayed by PC gamers, not PS nor Xbox console gamers. He should take his crusade elsewhere, console gamers only talking about RT recently. I remember how PC gamers became rabid in 2018, so making it Sony fans problem now is just going full retard and hypocrite.
Was it that weird ? Sony was rather vague about it ? MS open about the tech powering Series . We life in a open world .. better is disclosing information, sooner .Don't you mean that ray tracing was constantly being dismissed and downplayed on the PS5? I remember one of the first rumors was that the PS5 wouldn't be capable of it.
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MasterCornholio
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Not really they talked about how it worked in the road to PS5 and they said it's the same way that AMD is doing it with RDNA2. We have the white paper for RDNA2 now so it's easy to learn about the intersection engines.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Sony is showing it in launch games. Ok now get your facts straight:
Before they do, Cerny wants to clarify something. When we last discussed the forthcoming console, he spoke about its ability to support ray-tracing, a technique that can enable complex lighting and sound effects in 3D environments. Given the many questions he’s received since, he fears he may have been ambiguous about how the PS5 would accomplish this—and confirms that it’s not a software-level fix, which some had feared. “There is ray-tracing acceleration in the GPU hardware,” he says, “which I believe is the statement that people were looking for.” (A belief born out by my own Twitter mentions, which for a couple of weeks in April made a graphics-rendering technique seem like the only thing the internet had ever cared about.)
Exclusive: A Deeper Look at the PlayStation 5
Now that the name is official, we've got more details about Sony's next-gen console—from the haptics-packed controller to UI improvements.
Time: 8-October-2019, 8:00AM.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
This shot in particular demonstrates how Insomniac are technical wizards. Look at the 100+ pedestrians and cars in this shot, in 4K with RT on top...it'll take a while before this is topped.
Ratchet looks stunning but hasnt got the density of NPCs like this.
Md Ray
Member
Compared to Watch Dogs: Legion, obviously.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
It was shocking that it was NATIVE 4K! Didn't think PS5 would manage that. Crazy results with insane RT draw distance as well! Imagine how it'll be few years from now when SWWS take full advantage of the Geometry Engine and all the perks inside that magic box?
Md Ray
Member
Crazy!
Can someone go to Twitter and ask James Stevenson for "Source".
Damn, Dark is going for the kill today.
MasterCornholio
Member
Sony is showing it in launch games. Ok now get your facts straight:
Before they do, Cerny wants to clarify something. When we last discussed the forthcoming console, he spoke about its ability to support ray-tracing, a technique that can enable complex lighting and sound effects in 3D environments. Given the many questions he’s received since, he fears he may have been ambiguous about how the PS5 would accomplish this—and confirms that it’s not a software-level fix, which some had feared. “There is ray-tracing acceleration in the GPU hardware,” he says, “which I believe is the statement that people were looking for.” (A belief born out by my own Twitter mentions, which for a couple of weeks in April made a graphics-rendering technique seem like the only thing the internet had ever cared about.)
Exclusive: A Deeper Look at the PlayStation 5
Now that the name is official, we've got more details about Sony's next-gen console—from the haptics-packed controller to UI improvements.www.wired.com
Time: 8-October-2019, 8:00AM.
Then later in the Road to PS5 he explained how it works.
And AMD already released the white paper for RDNA2 so more information can be found there.
Md Ray
Member
They did? Can I have the link, please?
Coulomb_Barrier
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The ray tracing looks so good people dont believe it is real lol!
MasterCornholio
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Bo_Hazem
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BlueXImpulse
Banned
Which actually will allow Insomniac to either have even more amazing RT in Ratchet as there is less to put in the BVH or put the budget into rendering even more CGI graphics (as Ratchet is already Pixar level this would be amazing to see).
MasterCornholio
Member
They did? Can I have the link, please?
They didn't yet? I thought it came out shortly after they had their RDNA2 event.
My mistake then. But I did see people posting pictures if the CU structure that showed the RT hardware in it.
Was that from the event and not the white paper?
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BlueXImpulse
Banned
B-but I was told by the people on GAF that WD:L had better ray tracing than Miles Morales!
geordiemp
Member
He deleted the post, but got a screenie:
Its MisterXmedia lol (That blue idiot) and he was corrected by John and Alex.
Not even close.
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regawdless
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On PC at Ultra, it does have better raytracing reflections. How should Spider-Man be better?
While in WD, even particle effects are being reflected, Spider-Man has more trade-offs because it needs to hit a certain framerate with less compute power compared to a 3080 for example. On consoles it's different of course, WD L is not well optimized.
Which is obvious and doesn't mean that Spidey isn't impressive.
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Md Ray
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I assume you're talking about this?
This was just an overview of sort from AMD's RDNA 2 page.
When I google "RDNA 2 white paper" I only get results showing RDNA 1 white paper. So not yet.
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Bo_Hazem
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Is that Xbox Series X or PS5 WDL? Man, those reflections look like shit. It's low res with limited draw distance on PC as well but not as bad.
EDIT: It's Xbox Series X:
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geordiemp
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MasterCornholio
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geordiemp
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For comparison.
If Ray tracing is only a few metres, why did Ubisoft bother on console ?
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MasterCornholio
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I assume you're talking about this?
This was just an overview of sort from AMD's RDNA 2 page.
When I google "RDNA 2 white paper" I only get results showing RDNA 1 white paper. So not yet.
That's the one. I'm assuming the PS5 does the same thing since Cerny said the CUs are RDNA2 ones and they are using the same RT hardware as the PC cards.
Shame we don't have the white paper yet.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
It was dynamic 1440p on XSX as well, right? So much jaggies and rough graphics.
For comparison.
That PS5 footage is an old build, the latest release is much, much better.
MasterCornholio
Member
Because it's better than not having it.
I do agree that it looks really odd in Watchdogs.
Even the old footage is still nice though.
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Shmunter
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I can’t even spot the cubemap vs RT. just give us 100% cubemap 60fps option for the love of god.