H
hariseldon
Unconfirmed Member
What a fucking poser.
You spelled cunt wrong.
What a fucking poser.
Sign a letter telling states to allow mass protests and riots, then:
As U.S. coronavirus cases surpass 4 million, more than 150 medical experts and others sign letter urging country to shut down
As the US hit a sobering 4 million cases of Covid-19 and the rising daily rate of confirmed cases and hospitalizations suggest the virus is far from under control, medical experts are urging politi…ktla.com
Fauci’s part of a throuple?
NYC didn’t blow up again because they already have widespread immunity.Here's a study refuting your claim: https://www.nber.org/papers/w27408.pdf
Where is the massive increase in numbers in New York City for example, guess they had no protests?
And I'm not talking about your measures from some few months ago, I'm talking about the recent response of local governors that saw numbers crawling up.
And what's your reasoning for Brazils failure, also BLM protests?
A lot of people have said that natural immunity to covid 19 doesn’t exist or doesn’t last long. They were wrong.
How Long Will Immunity To The Coronavirus Last?
Recent studies have raised fears that immunity to the coronavirus might be fleeting, thus making potential vaccines ineffective. The reality of the science is more complex — and more reassuring.www.npr.org
”A research group based at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mt. Sinai in New York looked at nearly 20,000 people with mild to moderate illness. The group tells a more reassuring story in an unpublished research report.
It finds that 90% of those people had antibody responses that lasted at least three months. And these antibodies neutralized the virus, at least in the lab.
"It's reasonable to assume that there will be protection for a time frame of one to three years.," says Florian Krammer, one of the scientists on that study. "But of course, we are scientists. We have to prove that, right? That's why everyone's cautious about it. But I think that's a pretty fair assumption."“
"at least three months" is not all that reassuring?
NYC didn’t blow up again because they already have widespread immunity.
any proof of that claim?
i mean scientists themselves are not even sure if post-desease immunity is a thing for covid-19
So something strange is going in in CA. We've talked to people who went to get tested and it was like a two hour wait. They filled out paperwork and decided to leave and not do the test. Then a couple of days later they got a call saying their test was positive. BUT THEY NEVER WENT THROUGH WITH THE TEST. They just filled out the paperwork and left, but were recorded as a positive case.
the main question here would be who "we" are and who these "people" are.So something strange is going in in CA. We've talked to people who went to get tested and it was like a two hour wait. They filled out paperwork and decided to leave and not do the test. Then a couple of days later they got a call saying their test was positive. BUT THEY NEVER WENT THROUGH WITH THE TEST. They just filled out the paperwork and left, but were recorded as a positive case.
Its funny how the rest of the world doesnt have a problem with wearing masks, most countries are getting back to normal, yet the US seems to have a problem with this, protests, people saying masks are against their freedom acts, yet have 75k new cases per day, risk of closing everything again and even more deaths dont seem to change their mentality.
Mericans truly are one of a kind.
the main question here would be who "we" are and who these "people" are.
then they should go to the police and denounce the whole thing, sounds like a crime.We being me and my wife. People being people we've talked to.
Hahaha wow.My coworkers wear masks but someone i used to work with quit the day they told her to wear a mask. (Shes a bartender.)
So something strange is going in in CA. We've talked to people who went to get tested and it was like a two hour wait. They filled out paperwork and decided to leave and not do the test. Then a couple of days later they got a call saying their test was positive. BUT THEY NEVER WENT THROUGH WITH THE TEST. They just filled out the paperwork and left, but were recorded as a positive case.
I had forgotten to check in about Bolsonaro. Guess he never got severe symptoms?
any proof of that claim?
i mean scientists themselves are not even sure if post-desease immunity is a thing for covid-19
A lot of people have said that natural immunity to covid 19 doesn’t exist or doesn’t last long. They were wrong.
How Long Will Immunity To The Coronavirus Last?
Recent studies have raised fears that immunity to the coronavirus might be fleeting, thus making potential vaccines ineffective. The reality of the science is more complex — and more reassuring.www.npr.org
”A research group based at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mt. Sinai in New York looked at nearly 20,000 people with mild to moderate illness. The group tells a more reassuring story in an unpublished research report.
It finds that 90% of those people had antibody responses that lasted at least three months. And these antibodies neutralized the virus, at least in the lab.
"It's reasonable to assume that there will be protection for a time frame of one to three years.," says Florian Krammer, one of the scientists on that study. "But of course, we are scientists. We have to prove that, right? That's why everyone's cautious about it. But I think that's a pretty fair assumption."“
My coworkers wear masks but someone i used to work with quit the day they told her to wear a mask. (Shes a bartender.)
Time will tell. We need to keep our fingers crossed.
It is worrisome though that we‘re hearing about people from all around the world who have clearly gotten Covi19 twice already. We can’t just wish that away.
Also, you really shouldn’t say ‘they were wrong’. There’s not enough science there to make such a bold declaration.
But we can’t talk about that. Otherwise how will we sell the public on the idea that this is the worst things have ever been?If in March/April/May they could of done as many test as they have been doing in June and July they would of found a lot more cases in the east coast. ITs like 500-800K tests a day now, back then they were doing what 50K or something, if that ?
Time will tell. We need to keep our fingers crossed.
It is worrisome though that we‘re hearing about people from all around the world who have clearly gotten Covi19 twice already. We can’t just wish that away.
Also, you really shouldn’t say ‘they were wrong’. There’s not enough science there to make such a bold declaration.
Yes, and that happens with every communicable disease. If a person has a poor immune system, they are less likely to develop immunity towards a pathogen.
Maybe, you know, there are multiple strains of COVID? But no, this is a totally unique virus that does everything different from everything we know, and the only solution is to stay home forever and avoid human contact.
A study of 20,000 people is very little science. Fascinating.But we’re talking about coronaviruses, and of the known coronaviruses people are infected multiple times regardless of their health.
The problem I had with your post was that you said people were wrong in saying there won’t be immunity. That might be true - and hopefully it will be - but you just can’t be that absolute yet.
You’re making a big, bold claim, with very little science behind it.
Trump now supports masks. Masks found to spread covid.So after all these protest tonight what is everyone going to blame the incease of cases on this time ?
It’s just PR, see it’s flu
He couldn't have been hit that hard, saw footage of him out and about today.
Yup, better keep this in your mind.If there is no such thing as post disease immunity, then working on a vaccine is basically a complete waste of time, as is any of the social distancing / mask wearing, etc. We might as well just carry on back to pre-COVID19 normal if that is the case, because that means the virus is here to stay and people will contract it regularly just like the common cold. At that point, all that's left is everyone's personal responsibility to take care of themselves and keep themselves out of a risk group.
No .. why would I?So do you guys wear masks outside, when no one is around?
Just asking because it is obligatory to wear a mask even outdoors in most of the regions in Spain even if you can keep the 1.5 m distance. This is a bit overkill and borderline insane in my opinion. Beaches are excluded but you need to wear one when you go to and when you come from the beach.No .. why would I?
If it’s a rule from the government, I would comply . But we here in the Netherlands don’t have one yet.Just asking because it is obligatory to wear a mask even outdoors in most of the regions in Spain even if you can keep the 1.5 m distance. This is a bit overkill and borderline insane in my opinion. Beaches are excluded but you need to wear one when you go to and when you come from the beach.
Im in Florida.
Several of my coworkers and former coworkers dont even believe covid19 is a thing.
My coworkers wear masks but someone i used to work with quit the day they told her to wear a mask. (Shes a bartender.)
So after all these protest tonight what is everyone going to blame the increase of cases on this time ?
a banger
ALT link
Your country has lost its mind man ..
That’s why I’ve been supplementing D3 everyday. Also, it ain’t real D, if it ain’t got the 3.Insufficient vitamin D increases risk of severe COVID-19, says new study
Vitamin D has long been understood to impact immune response.m.jpost.com