Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE
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She can find some other way then. WAR EFFORT HO!
I see what you did there.
Hasphat'sAnts
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I'm thinking back to all the great moments in ME3. Mordin's cure. Thane's prayer. Liara's info box.
If they can nail that shit why couldn't they get the ending to be just half as good?
If they can nail that shit why couldn't they get the ending to be just half as good?
Holy shit why did I not make the connection to Joker's family.
That's awesome.
God dammit bioware why are you great at the small/medium things and worthless at the big ones?
Phat Michael
Banned
Did you miss the part where i said it wasnt perfect?
I thought it was a polished game - that doesnt mean its perfect.
Jesus im not sure why i come to these threads anymore - isnt this supposed to be about discussions about ME3, not complaints non stop about the final 5 minutes and stupid memes?
The last stage in London was such an awesome level, i dont see how people can rag on it. From the discussions in here its like people hated the game, i really thought it was excellent and a lot of fun as well.
SerArthurDayne
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I authorized without knowing that. I didn't feel guilty then or now. Though I certainly can't blame the self preservation instinct. It has always seemed that war and death must be much more frightening to an Asari.
And yes, you lose points for authorizing. Not sure if you get anything for not authorizing.
And yes, you lose points for authorizing. Not sure if you get anything for not authorizing.
Phat Michael
Banned
No idea what those acronyms mean but it seems the people on that forum are as like minded as the people on this one. So much hate for such a damn good game.
Blue Ninja
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Damn this game can be pretty dark. Lots of suicides and friend killing.
Beat that Witcher 2!
People have a problem with what happens after Shepard collapses, not the things that happen before.
Jake Tower
Banned
I lost it and turned off DAO when I encountered the first NPC DLC Salesman.
What you suggest would make THE SHEPARD IS LEGEND GO BUY DLC LOL look tame.
It's true that there isn't nearly enough talk about the stuff the game actually did pretty well. Lots of fun character moments.
Haha
Haha
In my opinion? because they wanted vagueness and controversy and speculation and they probably did think the questions that come to mind in the end are really 'high' and 'philosophical' and shit.
In short, the events you mention are a payoff to the best moments they have been building to, they remain true to the characters you know and the fiction. The ending is just a writer thinking he is smarter than he really is without any consideration of what brought the story to this point.
Not American I presume? FTC=Federal Trade Commission, and BBB=Better Business Bureau. Just by the names you should be able to tell how ridiculous going to THEM over ME3 is.
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FTC= federal trade commission
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Jake Tower
Banned
I do. ME3 game-wise is mediocre at best. The only thing that could have salvaged it was a satisfying endgame.
Wut? The Dragon Age 2 ending makes the ME3 ending look amazing.
If Mass Effect 3 ended like DA2 it would be Liara and Admiral Hackett turning into jumbo reapers, that fuck on top of the earth until it cracks in half.
I'm actually not kidding, it would have to be that ridiculous to match how bad the ending of Dragon age 2 was....and that was a game where I actually REALLY liked it outside of the reused areas until the end.
Fine, most people then.
SerArthurDayne
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I have forgotten the DA2 ending. What happened? All I remember is that you also had no choice and had to fight both groups regardless of how you played the game, for no reason. It made me LOL.
LumpOfCole
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Too many variations in skill levels of writers
HarryHengst
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Look at you being wrong!
Jake Tower
Banned
I won't.
Even if you calmed him down/romanced him Anders blows the church up with space rays or something then both the mage and templar leaders turn into giant monsters because LOL WHY NOT even if you took one side or the other.
After the ending I immediately drove to gamestop to get the game away from me.
I genuinely enjoyed Varric/elf warrior guy and a few other things from the game but the ending seemed like they had 4 days to ship and just had to do something asap and disregard the events of the entire game and just get it out the door with half assed boss fights that shouldn't have happened.
Both games would have been better/more honest if 15 minutes before the end they put LOL DLC LATER YALL HOPE YOU HAD FUN messages with nothing else.
Hasphat'sAnts
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Yeah.
Orsino gives into despair and turns into a demon. Then Meredith comes in and you fight her as well
Varric and Bethany were the only redeeming things about DA2.
And Bethany wasn't even that interesting to begin with.
EmCeeGramr
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That interrogator lady was all "oh so Hawke really did nothing in those 10 years, shit just sorta happened to them" and the dwarf was all "uh-huh" and then she talked to a character who may or may not have died or never have been recruited in DA1 but who cares about continuity and they talk vaguely about THINGS ARE HAPPENING BUY DRAGON AGE™ 3
Mutanthands
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This entire situation is a classic example of work-place burnout. You've got the Mass Effect team working on ME2 and post release DLC, while at the same time ramping up on full production of ME3 without a break to get it out within 2 years. It was too much.
When you get burned out on something, you just don't give a fuck anymore. You start to resent it. The outcomes from the first 2 games were damn complicated, and by the end they just said "fuck it, space magic."
On top of that, they tore the whole universe down at the end, which could be interpreted as a passive-aggressive way at working out the burnout-tinged resentment.
This is where more supervision at the top at EA would have helped to catch what happened before this became an issue. "Why are you destroying everything in such a vague way? Is that what you really want to do with franchise that has a chance of really taking off next generation?"
When you get burned out on something, you just don't give a fuck anymore. You start to resent it. The outcomes from the first 2 games were damn complicated, and by the end they just said "fuck it, space magic."
On top of that, they tore the whole universe down at the end, which could be interpreted as a passive-aggressive way at working out the burnout-tinged resentment.
This is where more supervision at the top at EA would have helped to catch what happened before this became an issue. "Why are you destroying everything in such a vague way? Is that what you really want to do with franchise that has a chance of really taking off next generation?"
Hasphat'sAnts
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That is fucking creepy.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Yeah, I agree, and I'm also sympathetic to that. If the fans had their way they'd make BioWare churn out Mass Effect games non-stop. As developers, and people, they're probably tired of working on the same damn game and universe year after year and, wrapping up the trilogy, likely wanted to leave it be for a while. End the Shepard trilogy and take a break to do other stuff.
They just happened to do it in the laziest, douchiest and worst written way possible.
Jake Tower
Banned
Angelus Errare
Banned
ROFL
Did you miss the part where ME 3 isn't a polished game? Either your definition of polished is fucked up, or you have very low standards for what polished means. Polished doesn't mean the game is perfect, it means that is has very little to no bugs/imperfections.
And I enjoyed the game regardless, its fun, but it's not polished.
hullostranger
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I liked the part on Thessia where we find out the Asari have been hiding a Prothean VI all along. What I didn't get is how it got there. It seemed similar in purpose to the 'Time Capsule' Liara was making in case the current cycle fails.
So was it just a Prothean time capsule or something the Protheans left behind to aid the Asari when they were still primitive as they (Protheans) were being hunted by Harby and the gang?
So was it just a Prothean time capsule or something the Protheans left behind to aid the Asari when they were still primitive as they (Protheans) were being hunted by Harby and the gang?
Ivory Samoan
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I am 100% Indoctrinated - those repeated requests from Gamble et al to keep saves have been heeded.. Let me know when I can get up from the crumbling remains of London town to shoot some Marauder shields off on the citadel.
SerArthurDayne
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I think it was a beacon, and they didn't have the ability to decipher it like the imprinted cipher Shepard gets from the Thorian, so they were basically just trial and erroring to get a tech advantage, and didn't get any of the warning out of it. Although obviously there is a VI, I don't think it was actually activated as a VI until Shepard got there. Could be wrong, though.
Arjen
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DA2 was the weirdest gaming experience ever for me, i could see al the flaws and why it was crap, but somehow i couldn't stop playing it. I even finished i twice.
Ciastek3214
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Witcher did it. Your argument is invalid.
EatChildren
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The Asari, like humans and many other species, were subject to Prothean observation while they were in tribal/neanderthalic states. The 'Goddess' that the Asari always speak of, and is part of their legends, was really just Protheans. Their legends of the 'Goddess', the first Asari, teaching them how to write, build and invent was just Prothean meddling in their culture.
There's a beacon on Thessia for the same reason there's a beacon/ruins on Mars.
BuckRobotron
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lol i found this hilarious glitch on a forum.
how shepard normally looks like:
how shepard looks like after coming out of geth animus:
That is extremely close to my primary Shepard's look before going all melt-face. Always Paragon though.
Oh, and now I see Legion becomes simply "Geth VI" in a "let them all bite the dust" ME2 import.
Edit2: actually, iirc I deliberately left Legion unactivated on the Normandy, as this IS apparently Legion but never met him formally...or apparently a "hologram reconstruction of some kind" says Shep...either way it isn't Legion proper
Mutanthands
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It's a hell of a case of franchise self-sabotage. Casey Hudson had to know how infuriating the ending was going to be. Why let Walters run with it without vetting from the other writers?
Hasphat'sAnts
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I stopped somewhere in the middle of Act 2. I just couldn't take it anymore. It's one of the very few times I've not finished a game because I just hated the experience that much.
Sadly, I'm still going to buy Dragon Age 3 when it comes out even though it probably promises more of the same.
Cpt.Underpants
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SerArthurDayne
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I beat with male Hawke, started a playthrough as a femHawke mage but didn't make it very far.
I thought the characters (aside from Anders) were pretty decent. Story was rough, though.
I thought the characters (aside from Anders) were pretty decent. Story was rough, though.
EatChildren
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Ego leading to misaligned goals. Their entire goal ending the franchise seemed to revolve around generating speculation and mystery. Like, this was the basis for the ending. Hudson was desperate to have the franchise end in a way that would make it very memorable (which I can understand), and Walters wanted to harbour mystery like a lot of hard sci fi endings do.
Rather than sit back and try to write a concise, believable and complete narrative, they let their goals take first preference at the expense of everything else. They didn't write a story, they wrote a disconnected end sequence with its own specific intentions.
Hasphat'sAnts
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I have to say, for as much pandering as there is in Mass Effect in terms of relationships, they can never be as bad as DA2.
Holy shit.
Holy shit.
the only way to play da2 is to have hawke be a warrior imo
they were actually fun to play as
and they aoe mowed shit down super easily, meaning the waves of fuckers werent annoying
cant even imagine it as a rogue or mage tbqh
i kinda liked da2
it was a shittier mass effect with swords
they were actually fun to play as
and they aoe mowed shit down super easily, meaning the waves of fuckers werent annoying
cant even imagine it as a rogue or mage tbqh
i kinda liked da2
it was a shittier mass effect with swords
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Those Mike Gamble quotes... I... I... don't know what to say...
Walters must have completely vetoed everyone about the ending and ignored all feedback. Those quotes are incredibly damning.
Walters must have completely vetoed everyone about the ending and ignored all feedback. Those quotes are incredibly damning.
hullostranger
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I had Garrus keep mentioning how Prothean Athane looked during final parts of Thesia and it got me wondering. Does the Prothean in the DLC add anything else to this?
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