Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE

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EmCeeGramr said:
it can take them to that one London part of Modern Warfare 3 where another random little kid dies to make the player feel sad, and you can tell it's London because there's a phone box, a soccer ball, a double decker bus, two pubs, three Union Jacks, and Big Ben in the frame at the same time
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Awesome can I get screen shot of that?
 
Shake Appeal said:
That's assuming they weren't working on it from before the time the game went gold. And it also assumes that that is in fact what they're working on, and not some multiplayer maps.
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Yeah...and they're all still "collecting feedback" so I doubt what Walters tweeted had much to do with an ending fix.
 
Shake Appeal said:
That's assuming they weren't working on it from before the time the game went gold. And it also assumes that that is in fact what they're working on, and not some multiplayer maps.
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Everything that has come out from Bioware had indicated that the ending in the game is the ending they always intended, and that they had no plans for any DLC taking place post-game.

This entire furor surprised them, so if they do make a change they're only designing it now.
 
EmCeeGramr said:
it can take them to that one London part of Modern Warfare 3 where another random little kid dies to make the player feel sad, and you can tell it's London because there's a phone box, a soccer ball, a double decker bus, two pubs, three Union Jacks, and Big Ben in the frame at the same time
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Funny thing is that i cared more about that MW3 kid than the vent kid. In MW3 they at least gave it a little personality, context and showed him interacting with his family. Even the Endings of the two games are kinda similar before it all falls apart for ME3.
 
Fuck I feel bad. I was in a mod created thread about bioware mp hours logged so far. I let it slip about earth getting scorched, worst ending but still. Suprised I didn't get banned. Was last night just wasn't thinking gahhh
 
Patryn said:
Two months minimum.

You have to write it, cast the VA who they don't have contracts with, get all the VAs into the studio to record lines while you code it, QA it, then send it for cert.

If it's going to have any length, that'll take a while.
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They probably do voice acting remotely. Like Patrick Stewart in American Dad and many other things.
 
I can't imagine how they would do pre-ending DLC as everything would have to be during the reaper invasion and the final hours of earth. That or they pull some weird flashback stuff.

edit: wow I make many typos...
 
one yuman babby refuse help = haunts nightmares
entire batarian system = meh
kaiden = annoying
yeoman chambers = dumb haircut
 
EmCeeGramr said:
it can take them to that one London part of Modern Warfare 3 where another random little kid dies to make the player feel sad, and you can tell it's London because there's a phone box, a soccer ball, a double decker bus, two pubs, three Union Jacks, and Big Ben in the frame at the same time
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needs more cues that it's london

how about the squad leader is named london and it says FOLLOW LONDON on screen the whole time
 
Shepard said:
I hope the DLC is like the last episode of Evangelion: not much of action, but a lot of explaining the real meaning behind the catalyst actions.
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we got the ending of evangelion, two of the endings is to accept instrumentality, while one reject it.

We basically got the congratulation ending, so now it's the for the end of evangelion ending.
 
UnluckyKate said:
His last point about the ending throwing the Reapers out of the antoganist seat is perfect.

I wanted a confrontation (conversation) with Harbinger.

He's even mentioned as going for the beam.

And then... NOTHING
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That's because the reapers are just the catalyst tools. It was a much "classier" solution than just "hey, Imma reaper, i'm gonna destroy you hurrr durrr".
 
I don't want any pre-ending DLC... All it will do is get me more war assets and most likely more people to strand in the Sol system. That's assuming the destruction of the Mass Relays don't destroy the solar system they're in like the one in the Arrival DLC. In that case I'd be dragging more people to the Sol system to die a horrible death.

Maybe I'll play again and get as few assets as possible. Then I will have saved more people.
 
Man, anyone else noticed that Anderson first tells you he is from London in one of the calls from the comm room. Then, when you meet him down there I think (or at least later on in the game) he tells you again in what is supposed to be sort of an emotional moment but Shepard just blankly stares at him, then turns around and moves on with whatever was happening? I need to find some video of this because it was incredibly awkward.
 
Shepard said:
That's because the reapers are just the catalyst tools. It was a much "classier" solution than just "hey, Imma reaper, i'm gonna destroy you hurrr durrr".
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why do we need a "classier" solution in mass effect

the last game ended with you riding your super-fastestest space ship in the galaxy away from The Exploding Enemy Base of mean bug people who had a really big terminator robot in it
 
inky said:
Man, anyone else noticed that Anderson first tells you he is from London in one of the calls from the comm room. Then, when you meet him down there I think (or at least later on in the game) he tells you again in what is supposed to be sort of an emotional moment but Shepard just blankly stares at him, then turns around and moves on with whatever was happening? I need to find some video of this because it was incredibly awkward.
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I thought it was some sort of joke because he clearly doesn't have an English accent.
 
EmCeeGramr said:
why do we need a "classier" solution in mass effect

the last game ended with you riding your super-fastestest space ship in the galaxy away from The Exploding Enemy Base of mean bug people who had a really big terminator robot in it
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We don't need it. But I find it a better closure than just doing the same thing you did in the previous game: you actually cut the root of the problem.
 
Shepard said:
That's because the reapers are just the catalyst tools. It was a much "classier" solution than just "hey, Imma reaper, i'm gonna destroy you hurrr durrr".
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Also, the conversation with the Illusive Man takes the role of a verbal shootout. I don't think having another heavy revelations filled conversation with Harbinger after that (ala Sovereign on Virmire or that VI on Ilos) but player would have loved a showdown with harbinger after a great debate
 
Shepard said:
That's because the reapers are just the catalyst tools. It was a much "classier" solution than just "hey, Imma reaper, i'm gonna destroy you hurrr durrr".
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Sooo "I made the reapers to destroy you hurrr durrr" is classier than "I'mma reaper, i'm gonna destroy you hurr durrr"?
 
Galactic Fork said:
Sooo "I made the reapers to destroy you hurrr durrr" is classier than "I'mma reaper, i'm gonna destroy you hurr durrr"?
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absolutely. They showed that the main problem wasn't the Reapers, it was an entity that was the entire time watching the organics, in the Citadel itself. He knew a lot more about them than a group of Robot ships from some far away galaxy.
 
inky said:
But why say it twice then? I think once he said "I was born in London", then "I am from London, you know" or something. I need to look it up.
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It's possible to be born in London and not have an English accent. My sister was born in London and lived there until she was 6, and she doesn't have one.
 
Pretty decent and HONEST review of Mass Effect 3 here :-

http://calitreview.com/24673

I particularly liked the :-

review said:
Normally, I’d find it wrong to support consumer demand altering authorial intent just to fit the vociferous opinion. Except in this case, the authors simply aren’t justified by the “statement” made. Aside from being a hackneyed mess of bad ideas running counter to everything this series has stood for, the sheer tonal shift prevents absorption for someone paying attention – the inability to convey intent is the definition of failed art.
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For all the bad mood the ending gives me, I still think it was visually great and it had some great moments, like the short character flashbacks.
 
derFeef said:
Near the end he says "I was born in London, Shepard"
And Shepard says "... really?"
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Right...

Patryn said:
It's possible to be born in London and not have an English accent. My sister was born in London and lived there until she was 6, and she doesn't have one.
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Oh, I know. I was not questioning that (that was some other guy) but the purpose of telling you twice. It's just I don't see what we are supposed to get from that. I think there was something there that clearly went over my head.
 
Shepard said:
absolutely. They showed that the main problem wasn't the Reapers, it was an entity that was the entire time watching the organics, in the Citadel itself. He knew a lot more about them than a group of Robot ships from some far away galaxy.
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Nowhere was it said they were from some far away galaxy. But it's still amounts to the same thing. Giant robot space station controlling a group of robot ships isn't any better than a group of robot ships. It just adds one bigger robot ship that people lived in. And didn't indoctrinate people.
 
derFeef said:
For all the bad mood the ending gives me, I still think it was visually great and it had some great moments, like the short character flashbacks.
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The conversations you got before the ending are great. Garrus and Shepard's there no Shepard without Vakarian bit is awesome and so is Liara's gift even if you did or didn't romance her. I even liked Edi's bit about the first time she actually felt alive. Javik's was a real downer for me though lets go slit my throat to feel better wheee. Well fuck you now you are on a jungle planet no suicide for you.
 
Patryn said:
It's possible to be born in London and not have an English accent. My sister was born in London and lived there until she was 6, and she doesn't have one.
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Well, if he was young enough to have moved away before getting the accent, is it believable that he would have that much of an attachment to the city as he is trying to convey? :p The whole thing just seems forced.
 
Why do all the Mass Effect Relays explode? Didn't Shepard just kill more life than the Reapers by causing the relays all over the galaxy to explode as seen in the ME2 Arrival DLC?
 
derFeef said:
For all the bad mood the ending gives me, I still think it was visually great and it had some great moments, like the short character flashbacks.
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You mean before having to defend the turret, right? If so, I agree. Liara's "gift" was probably the highlight of the ending for me.
 
universalmind said:
Why do all the Mass Effect Relays explode? Didn't Shepard just kill more life than the Reapers by causing the relays all over the galaxy to explode as seen in the ME2 Arrival DLC?
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Probably because they weren't "destroyed", it was more like a deactivation, and there's no entry in the codex for that.
 
Patryn said:
It's possible to be born in London and not have an English accent. My sister was born in London and lived there until she was 6, and she doesn't have one.
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Plus, isn't everyone on Earth now slightly hispanic as well? so accents could also be mixed, regardless of location. The rules of today don't necessarily apply.

Speaking of London, apart from Big Ben and the telephone boxes, it didn't really feel like London at all. I was hoping for a journey through the tunnels of the Underground where you get swarmed by a bunch of husks, or maybe some trench warfare in the middle of Hyde Park.
 
rififi said:
Plus, isn't everyone on Earth now slightly hispanic as well? so accents could also be mixed, regardless of location. The rules of today don't necessarily apply.
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Point taken, but the idea is to have the sentiment conveyed to the audience of... today. They don't really make it clear that the population of earth is drifting away from a varied species to a homogeneous species.
 
Shepard said:
Probably because they weren't "destroyed", it was more like a deactivation, and there's no entry in the codex for that.
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Dude, they exploded. There was fire. Chunks of debris pinwheeling off into space. They're obliterated. And the resulting shockwaves were the size of star systems.
 
Hwasong said:
You mean before having to defend the turret, right? If so, I agree. Liara's "gift" was probably the highlight of the ending for me.
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Everything from London really and also up on the Citadell, it has great moments. The conversation with Garrus was the most moving moment to me, though. Battlebrother to the end.
 
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