That was my biggest issue, the franchise was over with 2, storywise.So I played Max Payne 3 when it came out and recently went back and done a marathon playing MP1,2 and 3.
Rockstar really did fuck up Max. He acts nothing like what he did in MP1 and 2. In Rockstars version he, like the OP pointed out, for some reason is some dumb crazy gringo, suicidal and an alcoholic. It makes no sense why Max would be like this other than to force him to go to Brazil for a "New Start".
Just look at the last scene of Max Payne 2.
He finally came to terms with his loss of his wife but at the start of MP3 Max is a wreck and can't get over that his wife is dead.
http://youtu.be/inRniIN_dio?t=55s
Really? How does that make any sense? They just ignore what happened in MP2?
I do have to say though I think the gameplay in MP3 is really good. It's what I'd expect a Max Payne game to play like in 2012 so I give Rockstar credit for that. It's just a shame that they clearly put emphasis on the cinematic side of the game and made the dumb decisions of not letting us skip cutscenes.
I thought that the game was just okay. I don't think it's rediculous at all to say that the gunplay is better in Alan wake than max payne 3. I sure enjoyed playing through Alan Wake more than Max Payne 3. Not suprising though since remedy is really good at doing gunplay while that's never been rockstars strong suit.
I'm surprised that rockstar still seems to get so much recognition even though they haven't made a great game all generation. I guess that's not all that suprising after making some of the greatet games in the previous generation. O well.
The kickass gunplay of MP3 overshadows where they went with Max.That was my biggest issue, the franchise was over with 2, storywise.
But gameplay wise i think 3 is fantastic.
The fact that you think alcoholics can't have deep or complex feeling sorta startled me, one of the most wrong things I've ever heard on NeoGaf.
That was my biggest issue, the franchise was over with 2, storywise.
But gameplay wise i think 3 is fantastic.
"How do i disable autoaim?"
I played it both ways, btw, first time in free aim, and second one with softlock, had fun both times for different reasons, but i suggest anyone should play with free aim.
Max was fucking awfully written character in MP3, sorta weird that you don't see that.
He is shitty hypocritical character that doesnt gel with his own game and thus any pathos or sympathy is thrown out the window. He is Niko Bellic 2.0.
Didn't like Red Dead?
I hated Alan Wake, and i was certainly not impressed by its gunplay, funny.I thought that the game was just okay. I don't think it's rediculous at all to say that the gunplay is better in Alan wake than max payne 3. I sure enjoyed playing through Alan Wake more than Max Payne 3. Not suprising though since remedy is really good at doing gunplay while that's never been rockstars strong suit.
I'm surprised that rockstar still seems to get so much recognition even though they haven't made a great game all generation. I guess that's not all that suprising after making some of the greatet games in the previous generation. O well.
Yeah let's not forget that Max Payne 3 had a kick ass soundtrack (my favorite of the year, and one of my favorites from this gen).The kickass gunplay of MP3 overshadows where they went with Max.
As a whole though, it wasn't bad. It was good to see how things ended with him. Probably the last we've seen of Max, so this was the perfect song for him to go out to.
Probably 'cause they also realize that that's just, like, your opinion, man.I did. But the gameplay and missions weren't all that great. Honestly I'm just sick of third person cover shooters. It's just a boring genre and only good for multiplayer and not single player campaigns. Gears 1 is the reason why we have all these damn third person cover shooters and developers are just to brain dead to realize it was the multiplayer component that made gears as huge as it was and not it's campaign.
What was his motivation in MP3?
To be fair, you could turn that off.
The motivations for his anger, which is what you quoted, are how little control he feels he has over his circumstances. He begins to want to live again over the course of the game and finds himself arguing with friends and allies purely out of insecurity- he hates finding out he's been stupid enough to fall for the manipulations he's fallen for.
The story, about halfway through, becomes a matter of Max's self respect becoming a motivator alongside his desire to do his job and protect innocent people. That's how I saw it, anyway.
This might come as a surprise to some on GAF, but most people that played GTAIV (yes, GTAIV) would call it a great game. RDR is highly acclaimed and definitely has it's following, and so does MP3 to a smaller extent.I thought that the game was just okay. I don't think it's rediculous at all to say that the gunplay is better in Alan wake than max payne 3. I sure enjoyed playing through Alan Wake more than Max Payne 3. Not suprising though since remedy is really good at doing gunplay while that's never been rockstars strong suit.
I'm surprised that rockstar still seems to get so much recognition even though they haven't made a great game all generation. I guess that's not all that suprising after making some of the greatet games in the previous generation. O well.
The placement of "Tears" in the airport is one of this gen's best moments.Yeah let's not forget that Max Payne 3 had a kick ass soundtrack (my favorite of the year, and one of my favorites from this gen).
The placement of "Tears" in the airport is one of this gen's best moments.
The placement of "Tears" in the airport is one of this gen's best moments.
Did it though? Most alcoholics can't shoot RPGs out of the air while hanging from a helicopter.i did enjoy max payne 3.....was a very different style of presentation that really bought across the life of an alcoholic.
Did it though? Most alcoholics can't shoot RPGs out of the air while hanging from a helicopter.
I guess it meant nothing to you because you were never feeling the game.That moment did nothing for me. It was pretty underwhelming even. I mean the airport scene is like another "Damn, another guys to shoot to get to my objective", and they decide to play this to make it awesome, why? It was just another "shoot enemies so you can get one step closer to your goal", it wasn't like you were achieving something big story or gameplay wise. Without the music that moment wouldn't have been remembered at all. "Tears" is a great track, don't get me wrong, it was just horribly misused.
Yeah, well, I played it with a mouse, so I can't really say this was an issue for me.
So now you guys are saying that Rockstar should've made no progression from 2003 in regards to gameplay.
Bad? Absolutely not.
Flawed? Problematic? Sure.
No, my issue with Pax Mayne 3 is 1: it's offensive to my sensibilities in regards to the cutscenes (not skippable/FILTER USED EVERY FUCKING TEN SECONDS BECAUSE HEY GUYZ DID YOU KNOW MAX IS A PILL-BOOZE-HOLIC!?) 2: story is ass 3: Max as a character is ass.
2-3 and more important since Remedy/Sam Lake's writing is what made the previous two outings good. Max was likeable because he had nothing to lose after his wife and kids died. Rockstar basically went "fuck that, we're making him depressed just because!" after the fact he basically killed the people that pulled the strings that lead to his wife and baby daughters death.