Kerotan
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Nah Grapeseed Games for lyf!As long as Grove Street is handling the remasters I'm down for this
Rumor: GTA IV and Max Payne 3 Remasters Likely in Development
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Kerotan
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Although on a PS6 version I'm gonna want 4k 120fps.
DAHGAMING
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bitbydeath
Member
Rockstar would be all hands on GTAVI and not planning to release any other GTA's around it's release.
They have a dedicate software house which work for such stuff
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Shaki12345
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I have a feeling that a GTA4 remaster could steal some of GTA6 thunder.
Not sure R* wants that.
Not sure R* wants that.
Celcius
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I'm debating on if I should go ahead and buy a digital ps3 copy of GTA4 complete edition now because it will probably get delisted closer to launch and they might just outsource the remake to grove street games or whatever their name is
or do y'all think they'll put the proper effort into a remaster of this one?
or do y'all think they'll put the proper effort into a remaster of this one?
diffusionx
Gold Member
Max Payne 3 is one of the best action games ever and should be available on a new platform.
Grand Theft Auto 4, I really enjoyed it when it came out but have a feeling it has not aged well.
Grand Theft Auto 4, I really enjoyed it when it came out but have a feeling it has not aged well.
Gonzito
Gold Member
I like your first take, but I dont like your second take
The Infectious Paradox
Gold Member
GTA 4 is my favorite GTA... But those God damn oil painting trees give my nightmares.
Also, all Max Paynes are goated.
Also, all Max Paynes are goated.
CrimsonTide
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HEYYYYY NICO, LETS GO BOWLING!
Grildon Tundy
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I loved Max Paynes 1 and 2 when they came out, and was kind of disappointed with 3, mainly in the story and change of setting.
Except now, 13 years later, I've played MP3 through maybe 10 times and think it's the best of them all. The story is great, and the gameplay even better.
I've tried replaying MP1 & 2 on occasion but haven't completed either one in over a decade.
Except now, 13 years later, I've played MP3 through maybe 10 times and think it's the best of them all. The story is great, and the gameplay even better.
I've tried replaying MP1 & 2 on occasion but haven't completed either one in over a decade.
Puscifer
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Not to mention you can finish vice cities story in it's entirety before 4 even gets interesting
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
?? It is in 2 new platforms.
Grildon Tundy
Member
Only learned today that "Tears" (the song from the quoted trailer for anyone else reading this) was written explicitly for Max Payne 3. Now, reading the lyrics and remembering the in-game context...I teared up. That's heavy shit.
xrnzaaas
Member
I'll gladly replay Max Payne 3 when it gets remastered. I played the BC version from the 360, but it's just so ugly compared to the PC version.
GTA 4 on the other hand plays very well through backwards compatibility, all they need to do is bring it to PlayStation (and possibly Switch 2).
GTA 4 on the other hand plays very well through backwards compatibility, all they need to do is bring it to PlayStation (and possibly Switch 2).
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HRK69
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You can technically play it, sure but GTA IV on PC is a mess
Broken lighting, clunky performance, and terrible stuttering… it's far from the experience it should be
MMaRsu
Member
No its not? Install Fusionfix and every problem is solved. A single drag and drop.
You can technically play it, sure but GTA IV on PC is a mess
Broken lighting, clunky performance, and terrible stuttering… it's far from the experience it should be
HRK69
Member
Yes it is broken
If a game needs a community made fix just to run properly, that kind of proves the point lol
Saying a game isn't broken just because there's a community fix is like saying a car isn't totaled because some guy down the street can duct tape it back together
Just because the community can patch the holes doesn't mean the product isn't falling apart. If a game needs unofficial workarounds to run as intended, it is broken. No amount of modding changes that fact.
ThaGuy
Member
Max Payne 3 multiplayer was so fun that I didn't even care for the story mode lol. I remember reading an interview on how it was difficult to do slow motion in multiplayer. So they chose to only slow down your screen when you were facing towards a person that was activating slow motion. Please bring this gem back 
MMaRsu
Member
Allright but if its fixed why would Rockstar put in the effort lmao
Also who cares who fixes it if its fixed its fixed
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HRK69
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Because it's not really fixed, at least not in a way that works for everyone
Rockstar putting in the effort would mean giving players a version that works out of the box, with modern standards and proper support (hopefully). That matters, especially for people who just want to play the game without digging through forums or installing third-party fixes. A remaster isn't just about making it run, it's about making it shine again.
Not everyone is savvy enough to install mods or follow a tutorial
Mods can break with updates, aren't always accessible to everyone, and rely on volunteers. That's not a long term or guaranteed solution
Audiophile
Member
I've been wanting to replay GTAIV for years, I only got half way through in 2008 and for some reason never got back to it. Looking back on some snippets online I do love the writing. So a remaster would be welcome.
As for Max Payne 3, I never played it but hear a lot of hype, so that could be one for me too.
I wonder if this is a case of porting, bumping up resolution, framerate and accuracy/precision of fx/filtering just like RDR(1); or if it's going to be more of a visual remake using the up to date engine. I'm assuming the former, in which case, I'd hope for a somewhat cheaper price. If it's the latter I'd pay full price.
Ultimately -- with properties of this calibre from studios/publishers of this size -- I think both should be on the cards, a straight port with scaling of basic features to satisfy the posterity/preservation/access angle @ $30, then a full remake with a major visual upgrade and a partial functional one at @ $60 for those who want a refreshed experience brought up to modern standards.
As for Max Payne 3, I never played it but hear a lot of hype, so that could be one for me too.
I wonder if this is a case of porting, bumping up resolution, framerate and accuracy/precision of fx/filtering just like RDR(1); or if it's going to be more of a visual remake using the up to date engine. I'm assuming the former, in which case, I'd hope for a somewhat cheaper price. If it's the latter I'd pay full price.
Ultimately -- with properties of this calibre from studios/publishers of this size -- I think both should be on the cards, a straight port with scaling of basic features to satisfy the posterity/preservation/access angle @ $30, then a full remake with a major visual upgrade and a partial functional one at @ $60 for those who want a refreshed experience brought up to modern standards.
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GTA4 it's more a linear narrative driven game and not necessarily it's a bad thing; personally I wasn't a great fan of the San Andreas rpg mechanics and I liked GTA 4 for what was. I don't think all GTA need to be like San Andreas. Also dlcs were quite cool and it was funny replay it from 2 different perspectives with some new mini games/gameplay mechanics (sort of).
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IntentionalPun
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God GTA IV was the most disappointing game ever for me.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
If you know to read you can install the mods, the game is not updated anymore and its mods are always accessible to everyone.Not everyone is savvy enough to install mods or follow a tutorial
Mods can break with updates, aren't always accessible to everyone, and rely on volunteers. That's not a long term or guaranteed solution
HRK69
Member
So yes, mods exist, but that doesn't replace the value of proper, developer supported updates
Are you guys really worried you'll forget how to install mods or lose your little modding hobby? Because honestly, making players jump through hoops just to enjoy the game properly isn't fair or reasonable
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
It's infinitely better than praying for the devs doing a remaster that on top of that will very probably make us pay for the game again.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
All that "shitty" Rockstar gameplay and yet they still made the best third person shooter of all time
It's the closest thing to me to being the Die Hard of videogames
It's the closest thing to me to being the Die Hard of videogames
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Seems a bit exaggerated.
Shaki12345
Banned
I hope most people here understand that R* (especially R*) is not going to release 3 remasters within a year. Max Payne 3 is maybe the only one who couldn't steal a bit of GTA6 thunder.
Both GTA4 and RDR2 would be massive releases that will sell millions again with a next gen upgrade. No way in hell they will release more than 1 remaster between now and GTA6.
GTA Trilogy Remaster had lots and lots of exposure for months after release and not because it was shit but because people want to play it and talk about it.
They will do 1 remaster this year.
Both GTA4 and RDR2 would be massive releases that will sell millions again with a next gen upgrade. No way in hell they will release more than 1 remaster between now and GTA6.
GTA Trilogy Remaster had lots and lots of exposure for months after release and not because it was shit but because people want to play it and talk about it.
They will do 1 remaster this year.
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awwr999999
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MP1 and MP2 on PS2 are great looking, extremely well written linear one run games with zero replayability. The linearity paired with the total lack of replayability really makes them off-brand for Rockstar.
The kind of games that you play once and sell back to GameStop immediately after beating.
IbizaPocholo
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Trilobit
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I always thought it was cool of Carlin to acknowledge that he is incredibly stupid.
awwr999999
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Rockstar should have shut down after shipping "The Warriors" back when it still had the world's best catalog of dark, edgy, on-brand PS2 games.
They would have forever been King of the PS2 with GTA 3, GTA Vice City, GTA San Andreas, Manhunt, State of Emergency, The Warriors and only one bad off-brand cowboy game.
Since then they've lost their edge, lost their signature PS2 aesthetic, embraced DLC and put out a string of off-brand garbage titles that they acquired from other studios.
Off-brand as in a T-rated kid's game where nobody dies, a slow-paced old time detective game, a boring E-rated ping pong game, and two slow-paced morality-based cowboy games.
They even passed off two SIMs games as GTA4 and GTA5 and made a game called Manhunt 2 that has nothing to do with the original Manhunt.
They would have forever been King of the PS2 with GTA 3, GTA Vice City, GTA San Andreas, Manhunt, State of Emergency, The Warriors and only one bad off-brand cowboy game.
Since then they've lost their edge, lost their signature PS2 aesthetic, embraced DLC and put out a string of off-brand garbage titles that they acquired from other studios.
Off-brand as in a T-rated kid's game where nobody dies, a slow-paced old time detective game, a boring E-rated ping pong game, and two slow-paced morality-based cowboy games.
They even passed off two SIMs games as GTA4 and GTA5 and made a game called Manhunt 2 that has nothing to do with the original Manhunt.
spons
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The best way to play GTA IV without dicking around is on Xbox through backwards compatibility. So "console plebs" have the best option available right now.
crazyriddler
Member
Yeah, except the PC version sucks. It's full of bugs that aren't present on console. It has missing graphic effects and broken shadows, and you need to install a bunch of community patches just to make it playable.
MMaRsu
Member
You literally only need one patch and the version is better than any console version...
nkarafo
Member
I would be excited for a GTA4 remaster, if it wasn't for a the few mods that managed to make the game nearly perfect for me on PC.
I feel the remaster will be superior to the original, ofc, but it won't be as good as the end result of the mods and personal tweaks i made on the current build i'm using.
I feel the remaster will be superior to the original, ofc, but it won't be as good as the end result of the mods and personal tweaks i made on the current build i'm using.
CliffBronger
Member
If there gonna remaster them then i hope they give Bully the remaster treatment as well it would be nice to play that at 60fps
digoutyoursoul
Member
Don't repeat the Grove Street Games shite, do it properly or not at all.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
No, they have not, as we can dick around and even without dicking around the PC version is not limited with low resolutions, 20~30fps and potato controls.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Of course they can make new games. See you in 2040.