Media Create Sales 1/21 - 1/27

Kastrioti said:
Even if FFXIII does give PS3 a boost, the lead the Wii has built up to this point is far to big for any single game to have a major impact.

Brawl has put the PS3 in a permanent second in Japan.
LOL

more Wii Fit, Wii Play and Wii sports
 
apujanata said:
no significant DMCbump for PS3 and X360 ? DMC series not system seller confirmed ?

The bump is somewhat disappointing considering DMC4's record-breaking sales, but seriously, what can we expect from a series that only sold like 250k LTD in its last installment?


Wii # is increased 33% from previous week (M-create's ones, not Famitsu's one).

Why do you use the MC figure to compare when this is a Fami figure?

Using all Fami figures, Wii boost is just 26%, while PS3 is 24%. Both are disappointing. Maybe MC figures will be more interesting.
 
WOW @ Brawl! :D

Amazing numbers, great to see it selling so well. And a good opening for DMC4 and Disgaea 3. Plenty of variety in the top 10, everyone should be happy..., but that's obviously not going to happen :lol

I think the hw sales are as expected. SSBB and DMC4 are well known games so awareness is going to be out there and hardware will have been bought in anticipation. And PS3 has seen several higher than seemed reasonable weeks, with the sw releases, this year, obviously people were buying in readiness for upcoming titles. The same thing happened with Wii and SMG. The majority of big hw weeks this year are going to come from new titles, like Wii Fit imo.

Looking to future releases, Sony needs something for the Golden Week holiday, maybe MGS4? In-between there's Lost Planet which might do okay-ish, and Yakuza 3, which should do well, but the system definitely needs more big games.

Nintendo has MK Wii, which isn't going to push a huge amount of hw, like SSBB, but being around Golden Week and adding to Wii's line-up of Wii Sports, Wii Fit and SSBB, we should see good sales for a while, and it should be another really big title for the system.
 
iidesuyo said:
Rather disappointing bumps for both... Smash Bros Melee sold "only" about 370k units back then but pushed Game Cube towards 130k

Super Smash Bros Melee came out within a couple months of the Gamecube's launch in Japan, and was the first AAA title for the system (beforehand you had pikmin and Luigi's mansion). Brawl came out over a year into the Wii's lifetime, with the system seeing several big releases previously.

It makes sense that SSBM would move more systems than Brawl. Melee was the game that got a lot of Nintendo fans to jump on board the Gamecube. Wii has already had Twilight Princess, Mario Galaxy, Warioware, Mario Party 8, as well as new IPs like Wii sports, Wii Fit and Wii Play to entice people to the system.
 
iidesuyo said:
Rather disappointing bumps for both... Smash Bros Melee sold "only" about 370k units back then but pushed Game Cube towards 130k

GameCube was still fairly new though.


edit - beaten with a much better explanation. :(
 
800k. Not bad, not bad at all ;)

And 95% sell-through is just awesome, the game deserves it's succes. And, maybe more importantly, a little hardware boost indicates that a whole fucking lot of hardcore gamers already had the system. I wonder what 3rd party's will use now as their excuse for failing. Ah who am I kidding, it'll just be only first party titles sell!
 
800k at 95% sell-through. Holy shit.
tanod said:
I just realized I made a mistake. I meant to say:
25% first day
25% rest of week
50% rest of life time

That sound better?
Right. DMC4 seems a bit more frontloaded though with 140k first day and 70k more after four days.
AnimeTheme said:
The bump is somewhat disappointing considering DMC4's record-breaking sales, but seriously, what can we expect from a series that only sold like 25k LTD in its last installment?
The last real installment sold 281k (183k first week), not 25k. The Special Edition re-release sold 73k LTD.
 
ziran said:
Looking to future releases, Sony needs something for the Golden Week holiday, maybe MGS4? In-between there's Lost Planet which might do okay-ish, and Yakuza 3, which should do well, but the system definitely needs more big games.

You missed "Valkyrie of the Battlefield" in April. Although this is a new IP, I still expect this one to do at least 100k LTD.
 
95% sell through rate is insane.

That just shows how many hardcore followers of the game are there in JP.
Watch as the game slaughters any game released during the same week worldwide. :D
 
Arde5643 said:
95% sell through rate is insane.

That just shows how many hardcore followers of the game are there in JP.
Watch as the game slaughters any game released during the same week worldwide. :D
Brawl won't ever be released in PAL territories.
 
gogogow said:
When you have a small userbase, it's easier to get 300.000 sales for a game than 1M.
Funny then that VF5, AC4 and other ~300k selling brands couldn't manage it. ;)

Any way you slice it, DMC4 is still the exception and not the rule. Sort of like DQ Swords, RE4 or REUC...
 
Culex said:
I'm beginning to wonder whether there will be ANY titles for the PS3 will that will bump hardware, other than MGS4 / FFXIII.

Maybe it's just me, but I think the PS3 and 360 share a similar attribute in a super aware fanbase that picks up systems at a constant rate. Meaning, people who were/are looking forward to big titles on the PS3 and 360 in Japan purchase them before the fact.
 
jarrod said:
Funny then that VF5, AC4 and other ~300k selling brands couldn't manage it. ;)
Don't you agree with my statement? I only said it should be "easier" to sell 300k software on a 1+M userbase than to get 1M software sales on a 1+M userbase, NOT that it would be a rule.

If 1M selling brands only manage to sell 300k, why would 300k selling brands sell 300k on the PS3? ;)
That's why I said the DMC4 sales were nice, considering DMC3 sold 300+k on the PS2

If a game doesn't sell, it doesn't, maybe the gamers are sick of the franchise?
Happens all the time in Japan.
Who knows.

Musou, WE has been in decline on the PS2 too.

(VF5? Fighting game sales has been in decline since Tekken 3 on the PSone and VF2 on the Saturn. They've sold millions versus the meager 200k+ sales of nowadays.)

jarrod said:
Any way you slice it, DMC4 is still the exception and not the rule. Sort of like DQ Swords, RE4 or REUC...
?
Whoever said it wasn't?
 
jarrod said:
Any way you slice it, DMC4 is still the exception and not the rule
That much goes without saying - it's the first franchize that looks like it can outsell it's PS2 predecessor. And on a much smaller userbase to boot.

As for hw bumps, hasn't recent times conclusively shown that in Japan permament hw bumps only come from swanky redesigns with new pricepoint or mind numbing non-games that never stop selling? :P
No other sw seems to do the trick, regardless of platforms.
 
*Guaraná said:
why the PS3 HW bump were so low? :(
I was expecting at least ~60.... come on DMCX4 is one of the biggest PS3 titles of the year...
Why would DMC4 be one of the biggest titles of the year?
It's a 300k selling franchise in Japan.

MGS4, FFXIII, Ryu Ga Gotoku, GT5 are the biggest PS3 titles this year.

300k selling franchise sells 210k first week on PS3, with no huge HW bump.
Conclusion: (Most) DMC fans already got their PS3.
 
Fafalada said:
As for hw bumps, hasn't recent times conclusively shown that in Japan permament hw bumps only come from swanky redesigns with new pricepoint or mind numbing non-games that never stop selling? :P
No other sw seems to do the trick, regardless of platforms.

The standard was much lower than a permanent one but rather a temporary one week bump.
 
Brawl eclypsed DMC4 excellent sales, if it was released as the original date, today all the people were talking about DMC4 results...

smart move, Nintendo...
 
can someone please provide first week sales of the other devil may cry games (1,2,3) ?

A comparison is long overdue.
 
gogogow said:
Why would DMC4 be one of the biggest titles of the year?
It's a 300k selling franchise in Japan.

MGS4, FFXIII, Ryu Ga Gotoku, GT5 are the biggest PS3 titles this year.

300k selling franchise sells 210k first week on PS3, with no huge HW bump.
Conclusion: (Most) DMC fans already got their PS3.

makes sense... but still... DMC is a big franchise, at least 60k for HW were the minimal... the HW sales this week is almost the same of last week with no good game released....
 
Neomoto said:
800k. Not bad, not bad at all ;)

And 95% sell-through is just awesome, the game deserves it's succes. And, maybe more importantly, a little hardware boost indicates that a whole fucking lot of hardcore gamers already had the system. I wonder what 3rd party's will use now as their excuse for failing. Ah who am I kidding, it'll just be only first party titles sell!
SSBB is a non-gamer's game. No need for overreaction.
 
*Guaraná said:
makes sense... but still... DMC is a big franchise, at least 60k for HW were the minimal... the HW sales this week is almost the same of last week with no good game released....
DMC4 also had a bundle actually... sales being constant is pretty surprising.
 
Moor-Angol said:
Brawl eclypsed DMC4 excellent sales, if it was released as the original date, today all the people were talking about DMC4 results...

smart move, Nintendo...
Iwata: Do you see now Capcom! That's what happens when you port Gamecube exclusives .
*shakes fist*

Great results though, I never thought SSBB would be this popular in Japan. Makes me wonder how many of those 800k ended up in the US and Europe.
 
[Nintex] said:
Iwata: Do you see now Capcom! That's what happens when you port Gamecube exclusives .
*shakes fist*

Great results though, I never thought SSBB would be this popular in Japan. Makes me wonder how many of those 800k ended up in the US and Europe.

I dont think import services are tallied are they? Regardless its likely a small number
 
gogogow said:
Why would DMC4 be one of the biggest titles of the year?
It's a 300k selling franchise in Japan.

MGS4, FFXIII, Ryu Ga Gotoku, GT5 are the biggest PS3 titles this year.

300k selling franchise sells 210k first week on PS3, with no huge HW bump.
Conclusion: (Most) DMC fans already got their PS3.

does that really belong in that line up? I mean the game has a following, sure. But were the last couple that huge?
 
jarrod said:
DMC4 also had a bundle actually... sales being constant is pretty surprising.
On the contrary, it makes perfect sense.
It strengthens my statement that most DMC fans already have a PS3.

DMC fans who already have a PS3 buys the game.
DMC fans who don't have a PS3 buys the PS3-DMC4 bundle and not the stand alone PS3 console.

xaosslug said:
does that really belong in that line up? I mean the game has a following, sure. But were the last couple that huge?
Sales-wise, not as big as the other games I mentioned, but considering it was released quite late during the PS2 era, it sold very well, over 550k-600 per title, very consistent sales.
 
xaosslug said:
does that really belong in that line up? I mean the game has a following, sure. But were the last couple that huge?
RGG1-2 both outsold MGS2-3 fwiw. RGG3 is going to be the biggest 3rd party PS3 game this year in Japan imo.


gogogow said:
On the contrary, it makes perfect sense.
It strengthens my statement that most DMC fans already have a PS3.

DMC fans who already have a PS3 buys the game.
DMC fans who don't have a PS3 buys the PS3-DMC4 bundle and not the stand alone PS3 console.
I guess, but boxed bundles tend to drive at least some bump regardless. DMC4's big success just makes it all the more surprising imo.
 
jarrod said:
MGS4 will be a minor bump, if that.

All eyes on Nomura/Kitase...
When was it ever any different? I have said numerous times in these threads that Nomura/Kitase are the key for the PS3 in Japan. DMC4 done well yet people now bash because it's not the massive system seller that the franchise has never been in ANY region...

Seriously, some of you are so fixed on the hatorade that you need to get a clue.
 
Lightning said:
When was it ever any different? I have said numerous times in these threads that Nomura/Kitase are the key for the PS3 in Japan. DMC4 done well yep people now bash because it's not the massive system seller that the franchise has never been in ANY region...

Seriously, some of you are so fixed on the hatorade that you need to get a clue.
Keep it to yourself, I never implied DMC was a huge system seller.

If anything, it's the people continually parroting MGS4 as something big in Japan that need to "get a clue".
 
jarrod said:
DMC4 also had a bundle actually... sales being constant is pretty surprising.

The bundles could have sold without total sales increasing much (they did go up some). If someone is buying a PS3, why not get the version with a game? I bought my PS2 for Final Fantasy X in 2001, but picked up the GT3 bundle pack because it was a better value. I would have bought a PS2 that week regardless though. Bundled GT3 didn't cause me to buy the system. Maybe the same thing happened with the majority of the DMC4 bundles.
 
Minsc said:
So what games coming out the rest of the year have a good shot at beating Brawl's first week?

Dragon Quest IX for sure. Final Fantasy XIII if it sees release late in the year. 4 million PS3s could definitely support a 1M+ first week for FFXIII
 
jarrod said:
RGG3 is going to be the biggest 3rd party PS3 game this year in Japan imo.
I hope it sells well.

SEGA is pushing this game like a madman.
Released 2 demos and TV commercials months before the game is released.
Selling Ryu Ga Gotoku instant noodles.
PS3 bundle.

It's really one of the fewer games with some "real" promotion/marketing.
ryu01.thumbnail.jpg
 
Lightning said:
Wait a minute, did people think that a 300k selling game was going to double PS3 hardware this week? Are you effin insane....
I expected something in the 55k region including bundles (I have no idea how many bundles they actually put on shelves though). No bump at all is just weird, but then these are Famitsu numbers, and when compared to last week's Famitsu numbers, there is actually a 24% increase. I still want to see how that (non-)bump looks from the MC-vs-MC perspective. In any case, it's good to see that DMC4 itself sold so well, both in the context of the franchise and the small userbase.
 
bcn-ron said:
I expected something in the 55k region including bundles (I have no idea how many bundles they actually put on shelves though). No bump at all is just weird, but then these are Famitsu numbers, and when compared to last week's Famitsu numbers, there is actually a 24% increase. I still want to see how that (non-)bump looks from the MC-vs-MC perspective. In any case, it's good to see that DMC4 itself sold so well, both in the context of the franchise and the small userbase.
I always intend to wait for Media Create. Either way, DMC4 software sold well and that alone will be comforting for 3rd parties.
 
RGG Kenzan bundle will be 10.000 units. I doubt DMC4 was much bigger. Probably just like Bladestorm and Gundam Musou. We do have Gundam Musou PS3 bundle sales (weekly):
7004
1293
723
379 (9399)

Having that said, PS3 doesn't 'need' bumps when its 1 or 2 big titles each year hit. It needs consistent sales week over week. (Of course big bumps would be gladly appreciated by PS3 but its shouldn't be the focus). Its quite more healthy to stay over 30k as much as it can than going to 150k when FFXIII releases and the rest of the year flirting with 10k.

Look at PSP, consistent sales over 50k since PSP Slim, doesn't matter if there are 0 new games that week or a few big names.

I'm not saying PS3 HW sales this week are good, but its certainly better for PS3 to stay over 30k for all January and February, than going to 10k, bump with DMC4 to 100k, then down again to 10k until the next big game arrives.
 
gogogow said:
DMC 352,668

DMC2 309,279

DMC3 194,530

DMC4 210,000

Thanks.

mmhhh... how are we supposed to react to this? I guess the game performed within expectations. slightly better than 3, worse than the rest.

well that was a "meh" outcome :lol :lol
 
sphinx said:
Thanks.

mmhhh... how are we supposed to react to this? I guess the game performed within expectations. slightly better than 3, worse than the rest.

well that was a "meh" outcome :lol :lol

Considering the userbase difference and other performances of PS2 franchises, I think its pretty damn good.
 
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Having that said, PS3 doesn't 'need' bumps when its 1 or 2 big titles each year hit. It needs consistent sales week over week. (Of course big bumps would be gladly appreciated by PS3 but its shouldn't be the focus). Its quite more healthy to stay over 30k as much as it can than going to 150k when FFXIII releases and the rest of the year flirting with 10k.
True... it's the same problem Nintendo had the past two generations, tentpole releases alone can drive sales enough, you really need the catalog filler to sustain momentum.


sphinx said:
Thanks.

mmhhh... how are we supposed to react to this? I guess the game performed within expectations. slightly better than 3, worse than the rest.

well that was a "meh" outcome :lol :lol
It's impressive given the circumstances... I mean, DMC4's basically the first HD game *not* to dramatically fall from it's predecessor's sales, in fact it somehow gained on them. If this continues, then there might actually be some hope for HD games in Japan.

And really, it's 250k 1st week (PS3+360).
 
schuelma said:
Considering the userbase difference and other performances of PS2 franchises, I think its pretty damn good.
Not to mention the PS3 version sold 70k since launch, while the 360 version only sold 10k since launch day. The PS3 versiion might have the legs to push the game over 300k and that will be an achievement.
 
gogogow said:
Why would DMC4 be one of the biggest titles of the year?
It's a 300k selling franchise in Japan.

MGS4, FFXIII, Ryu Ga Gotoku, GT5 are the biggest PS3 titles this year.

300k selling franchise sells 210k first week on PS3, with no huge HW bump.
Conclusion: (Most) DMC fans already got their PS3.
Is this confirmed for a 2008 release? If not I'd highly doubt it'll appear this year - even if it was announced there'd be a good chance it'll get delayed.

Lightning said:
Wait a minute, did people think that a 300k selling game was going to double PS3 hardware this week? Are you effin insane....
DMC4 was one of the "You just wait for..." titles iirc. Dunno where people got the idea it'd be a big system seller but I guess they were desperate. That being said I think DMC4 had a really nice opening week.
 
jarrod said:
DMC4 also had a bundle actually... sales being constant is pretty surprising.
But PS3 hardware sales weren't constant, they went up about 25%. Given that Wii hardware increased about the same percentage in a week its best title sold 800k, I'd say there's nothing to be surprised by. The longer systems are on the market, the smaller the hardware bumps become even from strongly successful software. Only mainstream giants like Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, and Wii [blank] are likely to impel otherwise.
 
Liabe Brave said:
The longer systems are on the market, the smaller the hardware bumps become even from strongly successful software. Only mainstream giants like Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, and Wii [blank] are likely to impel otherwise.

I doubt Wii Chess is going to propel anything, let alone hardware bumps.
 
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