Imagine telling the investors that it's ok that it declined significantly from the previous entry in the franchise because you missed your launch window by four months.
VGC: Assassin’s Creed Shadows is the series’ 2nd highest day 1 revenue (best ever PlayStation store day 1 result for Ubisoft; PC 27% activation)
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PixelatedBeast
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We've also never seen so much effort put into hating a game before it released since TLOU2. It goes both ways.
Blitzkrieg!
Member
"Only the company can set the sales expectations!"
Dude, this is insane. This is the business world. The expectation is that the products you ship are providing a return on investment that is in line with industry. If you can't perform on the same level as your peers, you aren't meeting expectations and failing at your mission.
Donald mac Ronald
Member
Manabyte can die a happyman.
GudOlRub
Member
No way, Veilguard had it much worse, I've never seen a game getting as much shit as that one, the only difference is that Veilguard was so fucking ridiculous that even the normies couldn't help but make fun of it.
PauloRoberto
Member
It depends... Ubisoft clearly wanted (and ill dare say, NEEDED) this kind of publicity stunt.
Woopah
Member
Yeah that's what I thought.
The interesting thing of course, is that I can't find Chris saying anything about the Monster Hunter Wilds platform split in UK/Europe anywhere. So either:
1. You saw him do that somewhere that I can't find (in which case please send me the link!)
or
2. Chris never did that, but you just assumed he did becuase that fits the narrative in your head
When Silent Hill 2 sold best on PS5, Chris shouted it from the rooftops. But with games this year that probably sold best on PC like Civ 7 and Kingdom Come Deliverance he's been awfully quiet. Why do you think that is? Reckon he's waiting for the games to sell best on PS so that its more favourable to his agenda?
Its a similar situation with you D Demigod. Remmber how you thought Mat wouldn't give details on Hellblade 2 because he's not allowed to share bad new about Xbox? And then he actually did talk about Hellblade 2 and has shared bad news about Xbox multiple times since.
Or how you claimed Mat wouldn't talk about Black Friday because the Xbox numbers were abysmal. But then actually he did talk about Black Friday.
The narrative in your head doesn't match with what Mat does in reality.
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Blitzkrieg!
Member
"Good morning folks. Quick business update, we're going to have to drastically shift our Q4 sales projections. One of our developers pointed out that this project has no non-binary representation and we're going to need a few months to add in a new romance plot. We're confident the kids are going to love it."
Topher
Identifies as young
Nice quote. No idea who said it because it damn sure wasn't me. As far as investors are concerned....
Ah...there it is. More culture war bullshit. Nothing to do with business "expectations" or anything else.
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bender
What time is it?
GudOlRub
Member
All this talk about stocks from both sides just looks utterly ridiculous to me. Went down 7% a few days ago, chuds were laughing because "investors were bailing", it's 7% up today and now "it's because of Shadows' strong release", it's just standard market fluctuation, literally nothing about it tells us it's because of Shadow's release in particular.Nice quote. No idea who said it because it damn sure wasn't me. As far as investors are concerned....
Ah...there it is. More culture war bullshit. Nothing to do with business "expectations" or anything else.
Now if it keeps climbing steadily for a few days and prices in at a higher value than it is now then we can have an actual conversation about this.
Blitzkrieg!
Member
This provides a bit more context:
My expectation is that involving your company and products in the culture war is bad for business. We'll find out soon enough.
Blitzkrieg!
Member
EverQuest players were addicted to that game like crackfiends, so I doubt that 20% would hold elsewhere.
pudel
Member
According their latest financial report they are targeting 1.9 billion for the year. Third quarter they stood at 1 bln. So assuming they made around 300mil with other stuff like the quarters before, they need Shadows to make around 600million till end of the month. Thats a lots of copies.
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RafterXL
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Because we have sales numbers for these games. We also know that KCD2 is an overwhelming PC centric game and when you plug the CCU at the time into the x5 formula it lines up with Warhorses initial sales statement. We also know MHW sold 8 million copies, majority on PC, same thing, do the math it's generally accurate.
Anyway, like I said, we'll see, but I bet money I'm right about my AC:S Steam sales number, regardless of what they sold elsewhere.
Yeah, I was one of them. It does hold, and has, for years on Steam. Nothing beats actual hard sales numbers but you can get an relatively accurate number doing it this way.
Topher
Identifies as young
This provides a bit more context:
My expectation is that involving your company and products in the culture war is bad for business. We'll find out soon enough.
Five years of Ubisoft stock performance isn't the context of the discussion. The culture war bullshit has nothing to do with business.
Stocks are going to do what they do, I agree.
Blitzkrieg!
Member
Alienating your customers has nothing to do with business?
Topher
Identifies as young
I was talking about your political rant.
GudOlRub
Member
And did that report have the delays into account?
If not, then they can easily justify it to investors, if yes then what the fuck were they thinking?
Valhalla took years to reach 1 billion, no way Shadows is going to make half that in 1 month or 2.
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Blitzkrieg!
Member
Lol rant? You mean the joke I made to calico? You need to lighten up.
Topher
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Topher
Identifies as young
As I said before, I doubt Shadows is going to do well enough to change things for the company overall. I can't imagine Ubisoft believed that to be the case either though.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
I love the idea that as the patch gets better, the content can possibly be overlooked. Up to a point.
"I was enjoying it, but then the pro patch came out. 120fps, raytracing, but my character also shaved her head, got a matching nose piercing with her girlfriend and won't stop talking about people being treated equally no matter what their gender or race is."
"I'm desperate for the Doom patch to just be a locked framerate and nothing else. I won't be able to take it if the Slayer ends up being a robot controlled remotely by a non-white woman in a wheelchair."
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pudel
Member
I would say yes. Q3 was terrible (down 30%) because they couldnt release anything in autumn and the target was kept for 1.9 bln.
Yep, it looks like they needed something in range of MHW sales just to reach the target (not speaking of any profit here).
I'm against woke. There are so many gamers who are now rejecting leftist ideology and woke agenda. We have seen so many flops movies and games that are woke infested, so the batting average is still very high against woke agenda. AC Shadows is very rare case. I think allot of gamers especially ps5 owners are so excited to finally see a substantial upgrade on ps5 pro. Even those who are based, were just so attracted to the visuals on ps5 pro so they neglected the wokeness of the game (ehem Fighting cowboy). For me, I hope that will not be trend that make something shiny and just ignore the wokeness especially twisted gender ideology.I love the idea that as the patch gets better, the content can possibly be overlooked. Up to a point.
"I was enjoying it, but then the pro patch came out. 120fps, raytracing, but my character also shaved her head, got a matching nose piercing with her girlfriend and won't stop talking about people being treated equally no matter what their gender or race is."
"I'm desperate for the Doom patch to just be a locked framerate and nothing else. I won't be able to take it if the Slayer ends up being a robot controlled remotely by a non-white woman in a wheelchair."
It is not good too feed the left especially SBI or Blackrock who abuse there power, influence and entitlement in the past so much to the point they force twisted woke agenda to our throats to the point of stepping on other peoples rights to choose, conscience and common sense.
Anyway, going back, my point is that developers especially 3rd party should always provide a very good Ps5 pro upgrade and patch. Not just half ass ps5 pro upgrade, just like what happened to SH2 remake, Avatar, Alan Wake 2, Star wars, etc.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
semiconscious
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https://www.neogaf.com/threads/drag...worldwide-within-24-hours-of-release.1676229/
vgc/ubisoft: take a page from bandai, drop the 'player' gibberish & learn how to speak english...
vgc/ubisoft: take a page from bandai, drop the 'player' gibberish & learn how to speak english...
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
I don't care mate. I thought it was a funny idea so I posted it.
Strategize
Member
Very unusual situation for the anti-woke clan.
Usually when a perceived woke product succeeds they simply brush it under the rug and move on to the next one. However they've put SO much time and effort into this one they have no choice but to stick it out and spin, spin, spin. First it was the game being an outright flop by itself and blowing their load too early on steam CCU, and all of a sudden the new goalpost is it needs to singlehandedly save Ubisoft and make up for their other failures, cure cancer, offer everyone blowjobs, and anything less is a failure lol.
Usually when a perceived woke product succeeds they simply brush it under the rug and move on to the next one. However they've put SO much time and effort into this one they have no choice but to stick it out and spin, spin, spin. First it was the game being an outright flop by itself and blowing their load too early on steam CCU, and all of a sudden the new goalpost is it needs to singlehandedly save Ubisoft and make up for their other failures, cure cancer, offer everyone blowjobs, and anything less is a failure lol.
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Cyberpunkd
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A stay in the execution I say. This will only make Ubisoft double down on the formula, and when the market will reject it it will be brutal. I fail to see what this games does better than all the others since Origins, except “bigger, prettier”.
Cyberpunkd
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
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Looks like Shadows has quite the strong WOM on PSN. Here's Shadow's PS Store rankings as of this minute:
PSN US - #1
PSN DE - #1
PSN FR - #1
PSN UK - #2
PSN ES - #2
PSN JP - #3
PSN US - #1
PSN DE - #1
PSN FR - #1
PSN UK - #2
PSN ES - #2
PSN JP - #3
GooseMan69
Member
Same thing happened with TLOU II. To this day, there are still holdouts swearing up and down that the game flopped, despite it being profitable on day 1 and going on to sell more than 10 million copies lol
There are certain games where they just don’t want to let go of the rope.
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Pandawan
Banned
They are trying so hard to prove how successful Shadows is. I've seen probably 5 different news stories like this in a few days. Every day they bring something new about how successful Shadows is. Every f-ing day.
Ok. Ok. I got it. Your game is soooooooo super succesfull that you just can't stop yourself from trumpeting about it every day
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balls of snow
Gold Member
Next up 1 billion revenue baby. Get those devs churning out those armor sets. Time to prove your worth gen z.
GooseMan69
Member
“No bro look at the steam data. Clearly the game is a flop”
kazuyamishima
Member
Oh wow, there are some games that perform better on consoles and some that perform better on PC after all.
Who would have thought about it.
Who would have thought about it.
Topher
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ValiantInstance
Member
If this is an incredible game, I'd love to see what you think a bad game is.
STARSBarry
Gold Member
I am really really confused, because so far "the Steam numbers" have constantly been put across as "not important" in defence of the game, but now we are being told that they are indeed "significant"
But then how is this a huge success?
See the issue? If the Steam numbers are "significant" then this is less of a success than Vielguard, which funnily enough had this exact "THIS IS HUGE RETURN TO FORM BUY IT NOW 11/10" going around on this forum at launch too from specific individuals. Didn't vielguard also hit number 1 on PSN store at launch?
The stats we see don't line up here with what is being said.
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StueyDuck
Member
At this rate we are going to get the stats for just about everything except actual sales for this game.
Honestly if they had just left it at 2 million "players" and said nothing else i would have thought it was a moderate success like most AC games.
but there is a hell of a lot of Damage Control going on.
"Assassins creed has the most amount of players from low income households in Denmark playing on a Saturday at 4pm"
Honestly if they had just left it at 2 million "players" and said nothing else i would have thought it was a moderate success like most AC games.
but there is a hell of a lot of Damage Control going on.
"Assassins creed has the most amount of players from low income households in Denmark playing on a Saturday at 4pm"
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kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
4 years old PS4 port vs Shadows
GoT was available only on Steam, but a very substantial number of AC:S PC sales are on Ubisoft+. The cheapest way to play the game is with a Ubisoft+ subscription, the cheapest keys are also for Ubisoft+ instead of Steam. I bought a Ubisoft+ key.
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