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Media Create Sales 2/26 - 3/4

PantherLotus said:
I believe the Gundabump will be over this week, but I do think PS3 sales will gradually increase as Sony builds momentum. We need big news, and bigger than LBP, and bigger than home. We really kinda need some huge titles this holiday, or it really will be over before it started.

Sony, you have until April 08.


*And I'm pissy about HoM tanking. I'm hoping it's not an indication of its quality.

You're giving them a lot longer than I am. I'm giving them ten months to sort this out, and I feel that's already generous.
 

jj984jj

He's a pretty swell guy in my books anyway.
PantherLotus said:
I am taking credit for the term Gundabump, too.
I think you underestimated it in the first place, as a Gundam and a Musou title it should have done better. But for whatever reason you didn't even believe it'd push 40k units. I think it's pretty silly that people are already starting to treat the PS3 as the next GCN.
 
jj984jj said:
I think you underestimated it in the first place, as a Gundam and a Musou title it should have done better. But for whatever reason you didn't even believe it'd push 40k units. I think it's pretty silly that people are already starting to treat the PS3 as the next GCN.

You're right, it's not doing nearly as well as the Gamecube was.

/Anihawk
 

vanguardian1

poor, homeless and tasteless
I think it's pretty silly that people are already starting to treat the PS3 as the next GCN.

It's easy to consider when the PS3 is still selling behind the gamecube's sales pace during the same week periods. I think it was posted 3-4 weeks ago....

PantherLotus : Next time a gundam game hits ps3 and boosts sales slightly, just jump into the thread and say "IT'S A GUNDABUMP!" :lol
 

LOCK

Member
Coom on Nintendo ship more Wii's!!!

Also Yoshi Island will sell a million. Just how high it will go is a very good question.
 

Masklinn

Accept one saviour, get the second free.
jj984jj said:
I think you underestimated it in the first place, as a Gundam and a Musou title it should have done better. But for whatever reason you didn't even believe it'd push 40k units. I think it's pretty silly that people are already starting to treat the PS3 as the next GCN.
Dude, the PS3 is the new GCN (or have you missed the fact that it sells less than the GCN did at that point in life?)
 

ethelred

Member
Magicpaint said:
Wow, HoM completely tanked.

I guess after SD4, the Japanese have just had enough with anything Mana. Doesn't bode well for the future of the series. :(

Yeah, it's looking pretty much like a dead franchise. Mr. Ishii can find his food in the bargain bins, soon -- oh well! That's what you get when you refuse to make the game that your entire fanbase wants you to make.
 

ashiato

Member
Heroes of Mana shipped 100k but sold 10k. He says it's like Tales of the Tempest because all the spare copies will be in the bargain bin soon.

Or, a more pertinent example, like Children of Mana and SD4. Series is dead.

The bigger picture is the DS software market is reaching saturation - the supply of DS's isn't good enough to support all of the games coming out. Look for people to start holding off on buying games except for a few banner titles a year, batoning down the hatches until DQ9.
 

farnham

Banned
Segata Sanshiro said:
You're right, it's not doing nearly as well as the Gamecube was.

/Anihawk


i agree.. at this point nintendo had Luigis mansion, Pikmin, Animal crossing and SSMB

all games sold over 500k

considering that no game sold 500k on PS3 until today we can say that PS3 is doing much worse then GC
 

Masklinn

Accept one saviour, get the second free.
ashiato said:
The bigger picture is the DS software market is reaching saturation - the supply of DS's isn't good enough to support all of the games coming out. Look for people to start holding off on buying games except for a few banner titles a year, batoning down the hatches until DQ9.
Er what? Did you miss Super Robot Wars W this week, and the continuous and ungodly sales of NSMB Zombie Edition, More Brain Age, DQM:J, Prof Layton, and the seemingly good performances of YIDS from the same post as the HoM news?

It's not that "the supply of the DS isn't good enoug" for anything, it's just that the current Manas are shitty as hell and it ends up showing.
 

ashiato

Member
Also Yoshi Island will sell a million. Just how high it will go is a very good question.

I disagree. I think it'll drop off earlier than that. It'll be one of the "healthly profitable" Nintendo DS games, rather than 1m+ seller.
 
Wii 57,972
PS3 44,000



closingtehgap.gif
 

jwj442

Member
People seriously think LittleBigPlanet is going to turn PS3 sales around? Don't get me wrong, the game looks sweet, but it has little mainstream appeal. I don't expect it to do much better than Viva Pinata.
 
Sucks about HoM. It looked like a decent game, unlike CoM or SD4. I guess it was just the wrong genre.

I think YIDS will crack a million. I don't think Artoon screwed it up so much that it would drive people away from it like Tales of the Tempest.
 

ashiato

Member
Er what? Did you miss Super Robot Wars W this week, and the continuous and ungodly sales of NSMB Zombie Edition, More Brain Age, DQM:J, Prof Layton, and the seemingly good performances of YIDS from the same post as the HoM news?

It's not that "the supply of the DS isn't good enoug" for anything, it's just that the current Manas are shitty as hell and it ends up showing.

Sorry if I didn't make it clear but I wasn't infering a direct link between Manas crap sales and the DS game market as a whole. Because of CoM and DS4 people are just sick of the series.

I wasn't saying that big titles like your examples won't sell, in fact the opposite. The AAA-titles will still be the biggest selling software titles in Japan, as people finally get DS's they'll snap up the great back catalogue titles like New Mario. However, check out any games shop in Japan - no DS hardware but literally more than 150 or more DS titles. The vast majority of these are 2nd or 3rd tier titles (e.g. HoM even if it had not had the negativity surrounding it) - and it's those kind of games that are reaching saturation point.
 
ashiato said:
Sorry if I didn't make it clear but I wasn't infering a direct link between Manas crap sales and the DS game market as a whole. Because of CoM and DS4 people are just sick of the series.

I wasn't saying that big titles like your examples won't sell, in fact the opposite. The AAA-titles will still be the biggest selling software titles in Japan, as people finally get DS's they'll snap up the great back catalogue titles like New Mario. However, check out any games shop in Japan - no DS hardware but literally more than 150 or more DS titles. The vast majority of these are 2nd or 3rd tier titles (e.g. HoM even if it had not had the negativity surrounding it) - and it's those kind of games that are reaching saturation point.

Layton and Super Robot Wars W laugh in your face.

Do you hear me? IN YOUR FACE.

*twitch*

Heeheehee
 

Defuser

Member
Pureauthor said:
I don't understand Initial D.

The manga, the anime (I assume there's an anime), the movie, nothing.
D for Drifting.
Anime and Manga is understandable but the movie...I don't like Jay Chou
 
A question: what will the typical reaction be for Sony's major non-game Afrika in Japan? I mean, because it is a realistic type game, and I am not sure if "Africa romanticism" is as common or even known over there as it is in Europe and America. I can't really see it as a stellar success. And that's even considering the fact that a casual nongamer won't buy a $400 PS3 for a single game. GAF, prove me wrong. :)
 

Haunted

Member
Pureauthor said:
I don't understand Initial D.

The manga, the anime (I assume there's an anime), the movie, nothing.
The art style is so bad, I can't bring myself to watch/read/play any of it.
 
splattergnome said:
A question: what will the typical reaction be for Sony's major non-game Afrika in Japan? I mean, because it is a realistic type game, and I am not sure if "Africa romanticism" is as common or even known over there as it is in Europe and America. I can't really see it as a stellar success. And that's even considering the fact that a casual nongamer won't buy a $400 PS3 for a single game. GAF, prove me wrong. :)

Since we still know very little about the game, it's impossible to tell. From the few things we do know, it doesn't seem like it's geared towards success in the Japanese market, but we're guessing an elephant from touching its tail here.
 

Sirolf

Member
:lol @all the Sony doomsayers......Handelds are OWNED by Nintendo but the rest are still in question.
I will never understand the Nintendo fanboys :(
 
Sirolf said:
:lol @all the Sony doomsayers......Handelds are OWNED by Nintendo but the rest are still in question.
I will never understand the Nintendo fanboys :(

To suggest that the current market trajectory in Japan is pointing to Nintendo leading over Sony is hardly 'Sony doomsaying' at this point. It's still very, very early, but traditionally the system wars are settled within about 8 months of all systems being on the market, and Sony's first three have been...underwhelming, to say the least.
 

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
Sirolf said:
:lol @all the Sony doomsayers......Handelds are OWNED by Nintendo but the rest are still in question.
I will never understand the Nintendo fanboys :(

Well, PS3 software sales in Japan are anemic (rebutting this by saying "GUNDAM DID WELL WEEK 1" is not a rebuttal at all) and from a hardware point of view Nintendo now has a 1m unit lead.

I don't think anyone is saying "Nintendo has already won", I think it's that they're saying "Nintendo is utterly dominating right now" which is pretty much true from a a next-gen perspective in Japan.
 
Sirolf said:
:lol @all the Sony doomsayers......Handelds are OWNED by Nintendo but the rest are still in question.
I will never understand the Nintendo fanboys :(

So give me your prediction of the rest of 2007 in Japan.
 

Hammer24

Banned
jwj442 said:
People seriously think LittleBigPlanet is going to turn PS3 sales around? Don't get me wrong, the game looks sweet, but it has little mainstream appeal. I don't expect it to do much better than Viva Pinata.

That thought crossed my mind as well. Don´t get me wrong, the trailer was phantastic and absolutely adorable. My first thought was: Hey, the missus might like this!
But the I realised, that I thought the very same thing about VP - and this sadly didn´t do too well saleswise.
 

Error

Jealous of the Glory that is Johnny Depp
****ing awesome mana is dead as it should

stop bothering with that franchise SE gimme SaGa!
 

Eteric Rice

Member
I doubt HOME or LBP is going to turn the PS3 around.

What WOULD is some good games, good PR, and a price drop. With every week, Nintendo's lead grows, so they need to get on it.
 

lancubap

Member
Jonnyram said:
You didn't though... you messed it up big time.

Yoshi Story 100k
Karous DC 2000
Power Smash 3, 20% as much as VF5 did on its first day (i.e. ~10k?)
Heroes of Mana shipped 100k but sold 10k. He says it's like Tales of the Tempest because all the spare copies will be in the bargain bin soon.

Nope. Oishinbo and Test of Adult Power were both massive flops.

Good for Yoshi and Bad for Heroes of mana. But Nintendo DS's games sells a lot in the long term, so we'll see.
 

lancubap

Member
Eteric Rice said:
I doubt HOME or LBP is going to turn the PS3 around.

What WOULD is some good games, good PR, and a price drop. With every week, Nintendo's lead grows, so they need to get on it.

Well, in my opinion, Home and Little Big Planet could have a big effect on PS3's sales. The problem is that they will not on the market until end 2007 for Home and 2008 for the game.

2007 is EMPTY: that's Sony's problem !!!
 

Eteric Rice

Member
lancubap said:
Well, in my opinion, Home and Little Big Planet could have a big effect on PS3's sales. The problem is that they will not on the market until end 2007 for Home and 2008 for the game.

2007 is EMPTY: that's Sony's problem !!!

True, but I doubt Nintendo is going to stand still while they're developing home. I expect both Microsoft and Nintendo will have their own answers to it in the future.
 
Hammer24 said:
That thought crossed my mind as well. Don´t get me wrong, the trailer was phantastic and absolutely adorable. My first thought was: Hey, the missus might like this!
But the I realised, that I thought the very same thing about VP - and this sadly didn´t do too well saleswise.

That's because it was marketed to five year olds. LBP is graphically designed almost exactly like Threadless for a reason, to appeal to tons and tons of other people.

The problem is that it's dropping well past that 8 month hotspot, and by the time it does, there may be no way for Sony to crawl out of the hole that a year of Wii sales and a month of Halo sales has dug it. Teases of HOME and LBP, both truly spectacular advances, are not going to sell hardware between now and November. And even when HOME drops, it's going to almost inevitably catch at least some flak, because it will be in its earliest days, and the stuff that most people are drooling about, like HOME Expos replacing E3 and shit, are a long ways off. And by the time all that stuff is really cleanly and awesomely implemented, who knows how far ahead its competitors may have gotten?

Because, realistically, I don't know much software coming to the console between now and E3, and how many AAA announcements made there will be ready for deployment by the holidays?

Who knows, really. But at this point it's not even the software that's an issue. It's the cost of entry. The 20gig is Keyser Soze, and $600 is a lot to ask.
 

Sirolf

Member
AdmiralViscen said:
So give me your prediction of the rest of 2007 in Japan.

I don't care about predictions..Seriously.
I love all three manufacturers and i can't imagine the future without one of them.
I just despise rabid fanboys who jump at every opportunity to criticize the other manufacturers,that's all.
 

farnham

Banned
Eteric Rice said:
True, but I doubt Nintendo is going to stand still while they're developing home. I expect both Microsoft and Nintendo will have their own answers to it in the future.


well nintendo already has their answer...

Everybody votes channel..

Mii beauty contest

minimalist things like that

and XBL is already a greatly working system.. probably theyll announce a pricedrop or something
 
Sirolf said:
I don't care about predictions..Seriously.
I love all three manufacturers and i can't imagine the future without one of them.
I just despide rabid fanboys who jump at every opportunity to criticize the others manufacturers,that's all.

So do I, but that's not what we're doing here. I went over this last week, but the bulk of us in these threads just enjoy analysing sales data and making predictions as a hobby. You think all of us wouldn't be in here saying "Nintendo's pretty ****ed unless they pull a rabbit out of their hat in the next five months" if the situation was reversed?
 
First Children said:
A big drop for Monter Hunter 2nd, is it sold out or something?

Might be, maybe one of our guys from the Nihon can comment on it. It's also pretty likely that like most sequels, its sales were very front-loaded. Significant drops from first week to second week are hardly unusual though.
 

Saitou

Banned
First Children said:
A big drop for Monster Hunter 2nd, is it sold out or something?
Has it been so long ago when this was the norm that people have forgotten?

DS has really changed the market...
 

lancubap

Member
Eteric Rice said:
True, but I doubt Nintendo is going to stand still while they're developing home. I expect both Microsoft and Nintendo will have their own answers to it in the future.

Microsoft has more to do, because their service is not free. Nintendo has still to show their OnLine's plans.
 
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