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Media Create Sales: 7/23 - 7/29
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justjohn said:
Just morning and evening. I am a salesage addict
Edit: Seriously I'm tracking to see if there's a correlation between length of time a 360 game charts on Amazon and its ability to chart on MC software charts. Basically so far, the trend has been that any 360 game that maintained a top 20 status on Amazon for longer than a month pre-release date, with at least a week in the top 10 right before release, has gotten a top 10 MC spot. So basically all of those 360 games, are top 10 MC candidates if they follow the same pattern. Now I'm following Oblivion to see if maintaining a top 20 post-release for a period of time, means a second week spot in MC.
test_account
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Anyone got the Famitsu numbers yet? They should be ready about now.
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
Famitsu numbers...
DSL - 140,000
Wii - 63,000
PSP - 30,000
PS3 - 22,000
PS2 - 15,000
360 - 3,300
1. [Wii] Mario Party 8 - 150,000 (~430,000）
2. [PS2] J League WE - 140,000
3. [PS3] Minna no Golf 5 - 43,000（~220,000）
4. [NDS] Its a Wonderful World - 41,000（~120,000）
5. [Wii] Wii Sports - 27,000 (~1,840,000）
8. [NDS] Face Training - 23,000
17. [Wii] Forever Blue - 18,000
DSL - 140,000
Wii - 63,000
PSP - 30,000
PS3 - 22,000
PS2 - 15,000
360 - 3,300
1. [Wii] Mario Party 8 - 150,000 (~430,000）
2. [PS2] J League WE - 140,000
3. [PS3] Minna no Golf 5 - 43,000（~220,000）
4. [NDS] Its a Wonderful World - 41,000（~120,000）
5. [Wii] Wii Sports - 27,000 (~1,840,000）
8. [NDS] Face Training - 23,000
17. [Wii] Forever Blue - 18,000
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Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Thanks
Mario Party 8 and Minna no Golf 5 doing good for the 2nd week (well.. the previous numbers were only for 4 days or so, so some of these are also from the 1st week, but still
).Mario Party has some nice legs. Pretty good second week for IAWW too. Forever Blue did alright. (18k is pretty high for #17.)
PS3 dropped from 38k (by Famitsu numbers) to 22k. I wonder if MC will be higher than Famitsu this week since they were 10k lower last time or if they'll be lower again.
PS3 dropped from 38k (by Famitsu numbers) to 22k. I wonder if MC will be higher than Famitsu this week since they were 10k lower last time or if they'll be lower again.
Pureauthor
Member
At this point, I'm not entirely sure what to make of it. That it's still trucking along at a relatively high spot (and 41K second week sales) seems good, but there's a lack of new releases, plus we had the whole 'price collapse' thing...
The others seem standard, for what we know.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
justjohn said:
Way off from what? It's not like Media Create numbers are perfect and Famitsu numbers should be treated as some sort of estimate. cvxfreak did a comparison a few years back where he found that Dengeki/Famitsu/Media Create each had highest and lowest sales numbers for a number of games.
Famitsu is also arguably better because we get the half-year and full-year charts and more complete data all around, and it existed before MC so we have earlier data including full data for the PS2 and earlier systems.
360 could reach 1,000,000 units sold by the end of next year if Lost Odyssey and a price drop can up its 'typical week' (not 'average week') sales from 3,300 to 4,600 in 2008.
The 'typical week' sales in 2006 was about 1,400, and here in 2007 it's 3,300. This seemed to be a lasting effect from Blue Dragon. If LO and a price drop can take that up to about 4,600, I believe 360 would hit 1 million by the end of next year.
If LO and a price drop don't lift 360 sales again to about 4,600 per 'typical week', then it'll probably hit the 1 million unit sales milestone later.
The 'typical week' sales in 2006 was about 1,400, and here in 2007 it's 3,300. This seemed to be a lasting effect from Blue Dragon. If LO and a price drop can take that up to about 4,600, I believe 360 would hit 1 million by the end of next year.
If LO and a price drop don't lift 360 sales again to about 4,600 per 'typical week', then it'll probably hit the 1 million unit sales milestone later.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Pureauthor said:
It just means that it's more of a "Heroes of Mana" than a "Seiken Densetsu 4" in terms of sales.
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Looks like Wii hardware sales are starting to slow down in Japan.
Nothing major coming out in the next couple of months for the Wii so I'd assume it will continue to decline.
On the plus side they will be able to switch more units to the US and build up a bit more stock for the holidays.
Parl said:
In before "you're insane", "ban him", "idiot", "moron" comments.
I agree 100%. The 360 looks to be on an upswing and with as many games as it has getting top spots for pre-order I see small incremental bumps of a couple of thousand until LO hits thanks to Oblivion, Halo 3, Katamari, and Ace 6. LO, IF GOOD, will carry it to over 600k by the end of January 08)
DeaconKnowledge
Member
Taker666 said:
You're new at this I see.
Cosmonaut X
Member
Reasonable start for Face Training considering sales patterns for that type of game, and not bad for Forever Blue, though Im hopeful it will at least break 50,000 eventually. Anyone got figures for Everblue 1+2 by way of comparison? Fantastic second week for Mario Party, and a decent second week for MnG, though I expect it to just make it over the initial shipment (300,000 wasnt it?) eventually. I think youll see a similar pattern for all of the sequels to big PS2 titles that appear on the PS3 as with the GameCube, big franchises are going to struggle to sell what they did on the previous systems.
Not bad second week sales for IAWW either 120,000 in a fortnight for a new series isnt too shabby.
Not bad second week sales for IAWW either 120,000 in a fortnight for a new series isnt too shabby.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
I doubt many will jump on Parl with what Taker just said. I actually think there's a possibility the 360 could hit 1 million in around that time frame, but it's going to depend on a lot. If the 360 does hit a million, then uh, well, it's not exactly something to cheer about, but it's at least sending MS home with a "Participation" badge, which is better than last gen.jimbo said:
Segata Sanshiro said:
Yeah take a look a couple of pages back when I made the same statement.....actually take a look at all the MC create threads this year, when I made the same statements.....I get bashed on a weekly basis here for saying that.
No problem though....I am working on my crow collection, because it needs to be huge to feed so many mouths come the 1 million mark.
sp0rsk said:
It really won't need one to do 4600 per week.
jimbo said:
Well, I predict about 375,000 for 2007. Which makes it what? It can do 50k in Jan, so it 600k by the end of Jan is what I'm also looking at. It just depends on the impact these titles make along with a probable price drop. Of course, it'd seriously help if LO and Ace Combat are actually good.
sp0rsk said:
I know there's no announced price drop, but I'm figuring they'll probably end up having one. It might not need it though.
Segata Sanshiro said:
That's true. But the point is that it seemed like most people thought it was ridiculous to claim 360 is gonna have a million by the end of its life. I think it can achieve that by the end of next year, which is nothing to shout about. I mean, me and others who think it has a good chance of reaching a million are saying "it has a good chance of selling just less than a quarter the GameCube did".
Parl said:
BD sold ~150k between Nov, Dec and Jan last year. So if LO does at least that, it = 550k not counting August, September and October which is about 13 weeks give or take.
So 13 x 3300 = 43000. Add it together and you've got 593,000 estimated LTD by January of 08.
Of course all this depends on if LO is good or not in order to replicate the BD effect. I also expect it to average over 3300 in Sept and Oct though.
Wost case scenario = 500k LTD by the end of the year.
Middle of the road = 600k LTD end of January of 08.
Best case scenario(Meaning LO BIGGER than BD + PRICE DROP) = 650-700k LTD end of January 08
Jokeropia said:
Not really. We expected it to continue selling in the second week. This isn't a shock. That's why retailers slashed the price down, so people would buy it.
The game is still, though, just selling out its first retail order on a major discount and is (almost certainly) never going to get a second retail order.
Cosmonaut X said:
But it is pretty shabby if we, again, look at the numbers for the actual new series that Square Enix has created in the past instead of just imagining what a new series should be limited to.
Wyndstryker
Member
Taker666 said:
you're going to be quoted quite a bit for posting this lol.
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capslock said:
Actually its been a decline the last 4 weeks (if you count this week).
7/9 - 7/15: 109,854
7/16 - 7/22: 86,786
7/23 - 7/29: 77,169
7/30 - 8/5 : 63,000 (Famitsu numbers)
That said, i think its too early to say if this is a trend or not. Next week's Wii hardware numbers might be 100k for all i know.
jimbo said:
LO's effect on sales doesn't need to be as great as BD's. 360 was selling 1,400 in a typical week last year, and this year it's at about 3,300. Even if LO increases 360 sales by a lower percentage to what BD did, 360 can still easily sell more units Nov/Dec/Jan than it did with BD last year.
As soon as we see what it does by the end of Jan 08, we are much better able to see what it can do by the end of next year. I'm firmly with huge potential for 1 million.
BishopLamont
Banned
Expected numbers for everything except Face training. That's the lowest debut for any training game. But like any training game, I expect it to have insane legs. Oh and we'll see ethelred's IAWW theory after the initial shipment sells out. To restock or not to restock? That is the question.
Pureauthor
Member
BishopLamont said:
They already had a price drop - presumably to clear stock from shelves.
Why would they want more IAWW cartridges, then?
BishopLamont
Banned
Pureauthor said:
Like I said, after the intial stock clears out, what if word of mouth of word is good and there is demand. Will they not restock? 150k is the first shipment right? It's at 120k now, next week will mean all it's stock is cleared.
Sure, but then I doubt an outsourced side project like IAWW really demanded the same sort of investment as even similar scale platform debuts like Xenogears, Valkyrie Profile or Vagrant Story way back... that sort of comparison is pretty easily skewed in favor of the latter games. Hell, I doubt the investment's even on par with higher end 16bit debuts like Chrono Trigger or Star Ocean. Granted, the figures are still pretty dissapointing all things considered... Nomura/Jupiter likely would've been way better off just doing COM2.ethelred said:
Nothing major really coming out for any of the consoles actually...Taker666 said:
PlayStation 3
08.23.07 Yamasa Digi World SP: Pachi-Slot Sengoku Musou (Yamasa)
08.30.07 Blade Storm: Hyakunen Sensou (Koei)
09.13.07 Megazone 23: Aoi Garland (Compile Heart)
09.27.07 Agarest Senki (Compile Heart)
09.27.07 The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (Spike)
10.11.07 Godfather: The Don's Edition (Electronic Arts)
10.11.07 Rise From Lair (SCEI)
10.25.07 Imabi Kisou (SEGA)
10.25.07 The Eye of Judgment: Bioloth Rebellion - Set.1 (SCEI)
11.01.07 G1 Jockey 4 (Koei)
Xbox 360
08.30.07 Hitman: Blood Money (Spike)
09.06.07 Fatal Inertia (Koei)
09.13.07 Musou Orochi (Koei)
09.20.07 Madden NFL 08: English Edition (Electronic Arts)
09.27.07 Halo 3 (Microsoft Game Studios)
10.11.07 Operation Darkness (Success)
10.11.07 Project Gotham Racing 4 (Microsoft Game Studios)
10.18.07 Beautiful Katamari (Namco)
10.18.07 ZOIDS Alternative (Takara Tomy)
11.01.07 Ace Combat 6: Kaihou e no Senka (Namco)
Wii
08.23.07 Sharuui * Takoron (Compile Heart)
09.13.07 SSX Blur (Electronic Arts)
09.20.07 Mario Strikers Charged (Nintendo)
09.20.07 Sengoku Musou Katana (Koei)
09.27.07 Bass Fishing Wii: Rokumaru Densetsu (Arc System Works)
09.27.07 Boku to Sim no Machi (Electronic Arts)
09.27.07 Kekkaishi: Kokubourou no Kage (Bandai)
09.27.07 Opoona (Koei)
10.04.07 Dragon Ball Z: Sparking Meteor (Bandai)
10.04.07 Jikkyou Powerful Major League 2 Wii (Konami)
10.25.07 Dane Dance Revolution! Hottest Party (Koanmi)
10.25.07 Ghost Squad (SEGA)
10.25.07 Takarjima Z: Barbaros no Hihou (Capcom)
...all three seem fairly middle of the road in terms of creator/franchise game prestiege until later in the year (ie: Mario Galaxy, Lost Odyssey,Smash Brawl, WE11, DMC4, Chocobo Wii, etc).