This is great to hear! Between Legends 1 and this, going to have a lot of game-time on my Vita for sure XD!
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Mega Man Legends 2 OT - Return of the Blue Bomber
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This is great to hear! Between Legends 1 and this, going to have a lot of game-time on my Vita for sure XD!
If you need any help with recommendations, getting games, memory cards and the like, PM me and I will answer any questions buddy
!Fine Ham Abounds
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Better not post that gif in a thread with Tizoc
Don't say I didn't warn you
So weird how this one has completely modern feeling controls after having to jury rig MML1's setup
Don't say I didn't warn you
So weird how this one has completely modern feeling controls after having to jury rig MML1's setup
Vlaphor
Member
I'm actually really glad this came out now, since I've previously beat Megaman Legends on my Vita two games ago (MML, then Brandish, and now I'm playing Ultra Despair Girls), so I'll have something to look forward to when I beat UDG. Granted, I do still have the Corpse Party game to play on Vita, but I'll need to beat the first two games before I start this one (I also have the first two on Vita).
When people say that there's nothing to play on the Vita, I wonder if they've really done any research into the system...because my 3DS has been collecting dust for awhile and the only game on the horizon that I'm really interested in is SMT4 Final.
When people say that there's nothing to play on the Vita, I wonder if they've really done any research into the system...because my 3DS has been collecting dust for awhile and the only game on the horizon that I'm really interested in is SMT4 Final.
KojiKnight
Member
Is it really that weird? Mega Man Legends 1 predates OoT, and OoT pretty much set the standard for 3D action games, where as MML2 came out after OoT and definitely borrowed some of the nicer elements of OoT without changing it's control too much.
MegaManTrigger
Banned
The S Class License is frustrating as hell, specifically because it shows you the limitations of the lock-on system, and because picking up enemies with the lifter is unreliable. It also goes to show you how annoying status effects are.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
Poor word choice maybe, I just meant it's an odd experience personally to be playing a PS1 game that doesn't feel archaic control-wise after many I've returned to.
potatohead
Member
Both really good games, if you can easily get both I definitely recommend playing both.
Might be.
A lot of games have some difficulty with the analog sticks for DS4 on PS3. It's not calibrated correctly probably since it's still emulating DS3 input without... yea calibration.
In MGS PW in MGS HD for PS3 in certain directions the analog stick makes the character stop too.
If you want to play with DS4 flawlessly you can emulate these games.
KojiKnight
Member
It just takes some practice. Even after not doing it for years, I managed to get it in about 20 minutes. I did take a couple tries to get 'back in the groove" but the controls are responsive enough.
You do have to rely less on locking on simply because you don't have as great of a field of view, but the game has auto targeting anyways on top of locking on so it's mostly moot.
MegaManTrigger
Banned
Haven't found that problem on the Vita, though I've heard people saying that they found the same issues you're having on PS3, I believe a friend of mine said he had that problem using a DS3.
potatohead
Member
Awesome video.
KojiKnight
Member
Kind of surpriuse that demo hasn't been translated and released publically over the years (or maybe it has and I've just always missed it?)
MegaManTrigger
Banned
Finally got the S Class License, took about 30 mins but well worth the time since I picked up some small nuances that I never picked up on back in the day (hold triangle to guarantee lifter works, take the safe choice when you have a lot of time, etc).
As far as I know, it wasn't.
KojiKnight
Member
Hmm, I was thinking that was explained somewhere, I always held the lift button as far as I can remember.
Would be difficult with the PS1 demo since none of the voiced scenes have in-game subs in which one can replace lines. PSP version of Rockman DASH 2 includes the episode 1 content and that port does have subtitling for voiced scenes. And widescreen. But... if you're going to do that you might as well go all out and translate the rest and no one's going to bother with a port of an already-in-english PS1 game with PSP controls.
At least it looks pretty.
MegaManTrigger
Banned
Probably my fault, but I do enjoy learning things within the game on my own.
KojiKnight
Member
It wouldn't be too hard to add subtitles, or I should say, not much harder than translating a PS1 game in general.
If I remember correctly, when they did the fan translation for Tales of Phantasia on SNES, they subtitled the song.
otp
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
I'm ok with this
Aren't we all.
MegaManTrigger
Banned
I mean, I love Roll, but it'd basically be another SAO situation so no.
"It's okay, you know, she's not really his sister so it's fine!". Blech.
Don't get me started with SAO man XD! I like the anime, but the whole deal with his sister.......what the hell man
. I also see Tron and Rock/Mega Man being a good match though; both are skilled at combat, have respect for one another and she doesn't rip Mega Man off with upgrades/selling his gear behind his back.
Clement brought up a great point with his Legends 2 playthrough when we get to the first Tron fight XD!
MegaManTrigger
Banned
Playing the game in Class S license is the challenge I've been waiting for.
MegaManTrigger
Banned
The infamous Nino Ruins. As a kid, I once thought the Water Temple in Ocarina of Time was miserable until I booted Legends 2 and played through the Nino Ruins. The ruins is the definition of tedious. The PSP port version of Nino Ruins was a lot better.
Worst part of the game, easily.
So I'm enjoying it, 12 hours in, working on the fourth key.
It's kind of ridiculous how crude its gameplay systems are in comparison to something like Ocarina of Time, but it sort of all ties together neatly in and with its prevailing quaintness. There are some strange JRPG grinding aspects and one-off, obscure side-questing, seemingly included for Brady's sake. I think the latter aspects make me prefer the first better, but it's still quality action-adventure gaming from a PSone title, which is remarkable. Really sucks you into the world on offer and encourages you to explore every nook and cranny. It uses 3D space and verticality pretty well.
I think I soft-locked myself out of Holy Mega Man Volnutt because I kicked a pig way too many times, thanks to the lack of footnotes from GFaqs' cheats section. Now everyone hates me, charges me more money, and I'm wearing a burn tool.
It's kind of ridiculous how crude its gameplay systems are in comparison to something like Ocarina of Time, but it sort of all ties together neatly in and with its prevailing quaintness. There are some strange JRPG grinding aspects and one-off, obscure side-questing, seemingly included for Brady's sake. I think the latter aspects make me prefer the first better, but it's still quality action-adventure gaming from a PSone title, which is remarkable. Really sucks you into the world on offer and encourages you to explore every nook and cranny. It uses 3D space and verticality pretty well.
I think I soft-locked myself out of Holy Mega Man Volnutt because I kicked a pig way too many times, thanks to the lack of footnotes from GFaqs' cheats section. Now everyone hates me, charges me more money, and I'm wearing a burn tool.
KojiKnight
Member
I forgot just how miserable it was till I replayed it recently. I hit the wall hard there... just couldn't make myself complete it. It kind of dented my nostalgia for the game (where as Legends 1 and Tron Bonne were all that I remembered and more).
Think next time I play it, I'll just play it on EPSXE and find or make a cheat to get past that temple.
That bad, huh. I remember basically nothing about a "Nino Ruins" (haven't played the game since PS1 was relevant) so I might as well be going in blind. Actually, I haven't made all that much progress since I picked up the game. Now that it's working on VITA I can find a way to devote some time to it... eventually.
PeakPointMatrix
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It's imperative you get the Hydro Jets for the underwater ruins. This way you can simply skate around and get gameplay that is practically close to dry-land movement. It makes the Nino Ruins waaay more bearable.
You can create the Hydro Jets by buying the Aqua Chip at the Junk Store after giving Blucher the first Key. Of course you'll need to have created the Jet Skates first with the Roller Board (purchase at the Junk Store) and the Old Hover Jets (found in the abandoned tutorial mine in Yosyonke).
You can create the Hydro Jets by buying the Aqua Chip at the Junk Store after giving Blucher the first Key. Of course you'll need to have created the Jet Skates first with the Roller Board (purchase at the Junk Store) and the Old Hover Jets (found in the abandoned tutorial mine in Yosyonke).
Fine Ham Abounds
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Yeah I've enjoyed playing 1 and 2 again immensely, I finished neither and remember barely anything, so it might as well all be fresh for me.
There's a very basic fundamental charm about both, somewhat Zelda-like in the sense that they attempt to be very simple and gamey and at the same time full of little whispers of reality that manage to fit together well and make something that feels like a believable little world.
There's a very basic fundamental charm about both, somewhat Zelda-like in the sense that they attempt to be very simple and gamey and at the same time full of little whispers of reality that manage to fit together well and make something that feels like a believable little world.
KojiKnight
Member
This helps a lot, but it's not simply the movement that's the problem, but the design of the rooms and puzzles themselves, though the boss feels amazing to fight... it truly give a sense of huge scale, both in the room and the creature itself.
It's not impossible or anything, but it is pretty miserable and brings the pace to a crawl after everything in MML1 and most of MML2 before and after.
MegaManTrigger
Banned
The Jets help, but I usually just rely on jumping since you jump a much wider area of range in water than in land.
EDIT: After playing through Nino Ruins, it wasn't as bad as I thought, even after finishing the game a year ago. In some ways, the dungeon overstays its welcome with the amount of floors (if you bring the Drill Arm, you're extending that by a few rooms). Surprisingly, it wasn't the movement that pissed me off since I knew what I was going into. It was seeing Volnutt's body movement after getting hit that annoyed me. You're completely helpless for about 4-5 seconds depending on where you get hit.
MegaManTrigger
Banned
Nino Ruins plays exactly like it did on the original hardware, I've explored every nook and cranny and haven't found any performance clips. In fact, I haven't found any issues with Legends 2 as a whole (just about to head to Saul Kada now).
Having just beat this part this morning, this post echoes my thoughts word by word. At least that's done now.
Also, it's still funny how OP the Drill Arm is. The fact that you can upgrade power and energy to the max the moment you get it makes every boss a cakewalk. Just walk up to them, hold Triangle for half a second, boom.
MegaManTrigger
Banned
The Drill Arm is hilarious, Klaymoor goes down in less than two seconds. I always get a kick out of using the Drill Arm and seeing Klaymoor be like "you're real good" in the cutscenes. The same with using the Homing Missiles against Tron in Saul Kada.
Speaking of Saul Kada, the Reaverbot Boss is my favourite in the game. That setting and boss really sells how epic and large in scale the fight is.
>walk up to Klaymoor
>hold triangle for a second
>"That was fun kid, you're really good, I haven't had a battle like that in ages"
lol
Acquiescence
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I ship 'em.