hammertomb
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People constantly saying that shit again and again Is pissing me off too.
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Metal Gear Community Thread |OT2| © 2015 Konami Digital Entertainment
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tryagainlater
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Maybe people will forget about it in the next thread that doesn't have it as a title,
Jimmyfenix
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Me too.
Stratosphere
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Screaming Meat
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here happened What. are people insane You?
Skullface
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You guys must get pissed every time you scan the OT title :^]
On topic here, how do you guys foresee race playing a role in PP? We know that Skull Face has some racial, and hell, plain old identity issues.
Skullface
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Maybe, but I'm the prettiest.
hammertomb
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What are you implying? I can take you in a fight.
Skullface
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Honestly, i think it's going to be handled poorly, and in a very ham fisted fashion.
Try to remember some of the basics of CQC.
i'm not trying to be difficult or rude but, what what basis do you have to think it will be handled alright. ?
Skullface
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Because I have no reason to think it won't. I'm not saying it's going to be handled in some stellar fashion, but I'm not expecting to cringe out at how they handle the matter. Why are you certain it's going to be handled so poorly? More importantly, would it bother you if it was?
Marty-esque
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I'm interested to find out what role it will play. I really don't have a clue yet how it will. Has Kojima mentioned anything about it other than the fact that it will be a theme? I don't recall what you mentioned about Skullface but that's probably because I only listened to the tape once when the game came out.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
In Outer-GAF...
Men become Demons
Can kermit bloom on the battlefield?
Skullface
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Race and Revenge are supposed to be the major themes. If you google "race revenge metal gear" I'm sure you'll get a few articles where Kojima is quoted discussing it.
Skull Face talks about how he lost his country and language. The way he was speaking it sounded as if he was speaking more about how he lost his cultural identity than anything related exclusively to race, but the two are very much related.
I'm not certain that it will be handled poorly, but as much as i like Kojima none of his previous work hasn't filled with a lot of confidence that this topic will be handle with the delicate touch that it deserves.
That an odd question, why would it not bother me. ?
The games industry is an absolute joke when it comes to dealing with the portrayal of race. proving just how immature the medium still is.
Skullface
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The thing of it is, the gaming industry shouldn't be looked to as any kind of moral authority on anything. Sure, it's ok to criticize the gaming industry, express disappointment, etc... But I find all of it to be rather silly. I've never been bothered by the way the gaming industry has handled any kind of portrayal. It's up to the developers to decide how they want to express their visions, and regardless of how well they handle it, I respect that. If I find something to be terribly off putting, I won't buy it. Plain and simple. I'm genuinely confused as to why people really care. Who cares how mature the medium is? I don't get it. The only thing I care about industry-wise is the way real life people are treated as employees.
There's tons of porn on the market that I find to be despicable, disgusting, and entirely wrong. But you know what? I choose not to look at it. There's plenty of music I find to be disgusting, but I choose not to listen to it. There's plenty of TV that I feel is terrible, but I don't care because I'm not forced to watch. Same for movies.
Marty-esque
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it's funny, I was going to make a post exactly like this yesterday but I wasn't sure I could word it without hitting a nerve. I'm glad I didn't because you articulated better than I feel I could.
Skullface
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I'm flattered that you think I was articulate enough. I feel like I'm not getting my point across though, like I'm missing something crucial in my argument. I think instead of asking "why do you care", the real question should be "why should I care". I'm just so confused, because when I see that there's some major criticism of some kind of fiction, I roll my eyes because here_we_go_again.png. Why is any work of fiction obligated to fulfil some arbitrary expectation of "handling this real life issue with the respect and gravity it deserves"? If you're disappointed, that's one thing. But if you are truly bothered to your core, I hardly think that any work of fiction in question is the real problem.
Edit: I think what bothers me the most is that these criticisms often suggest that the artist has done something wrong and suggestions as to how they could have done things differently. It's just as bothersome to me as Monday morning QBing.
Dio Brando
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Skullface
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That looks pretty cool. For some reason it looks like Boss has a Glasgow grin scar.
Marty-esque
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I agree. I understand that people will feel that it's a too simplistic view, but I want to be open to how those people feel about it.
Dio Brando
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now that you said that, it does
this was an earlier version of the process. here's the latest iteration:
Skullface
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Yeah, I think we're pretty much on the same page. I think the most common complaint I see about MGSV is that the fucked up things we encounter exist for the sole purpose of making it "grimdark 2 dark 4 u" (I've never seen this position explicitly held on GAF btw). This rustles my jimmies so hard because it's as if the people that argue this point act as if they know Kojima's creative process and intentions.
now that you said that, it does
That's really cool shit. I don't know why but it's really pleasing to the eye.
Edit: In my sleep deprived state I think I also saw what looks like a Wario 'stache lol
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
now that you said that, it does
PrinceOfWhatever
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17. If I haven't yet I'll add you later today.
PrinceOfWhatever
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