Cipher Cat
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You know why cats are superior than dogs?
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Metal Gear Community Thread |OT2| © 2015 Konami Digital Entertainment
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You know why cats are superior than dogs?
Sheriff_Battlesnake
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Maybe Gene was just reaaaaaally good at convincing people he wasn't deformed.
"Dude, what's somethings wrong with your face..."
"NUH UH!'
"I mean, like. No hair, no face, no nothin'"
"No I'M HANDSOME REALLY REALLY HANDSOME"
"Oh, wow. I never noticed. You're gorgeous.
That's like saying extremist groups aren't evil when they perform atrocities in the name of their god or cause they believe in because they were misguided. I don't think it's pure, unadulterated evil... but it's certainly evil to kill dozens, or hundreds, or more.
Rogue Agent
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The quote is "Snake, that guy is a monster. You can't beat him with just your fists. Use your head! Isn't there something you can use as a weapon?"
I would say that, in the context of MG2 at the time it was just "videogame boss advice". He is calling him a monster not to hint at some kind of history that wasn't established until Peace Walker but in terms of telling Snake (the player) they are up against an unstoppable force and will have to get creative to defeat him.
Of course, that doesn't exclude the possibility that Kojima picked Miller later on as Big Boss's partner in PW specifically because he remembered him as the character that gave Solid Snake the advice that lead to Big Boss's defeat in Zanzibar if you used the codec. But it's just as easily a line that could be shrugged off because of the time and context of the game.
Cipher Cat
Banned
Dogs are slaves to the humans kept on a leash. You get orders and follow them by wiggling your furry tail. And woofing about it.
Cats come and go, and don't give a shit about orders nor do we kept on leashs.
Also, cats are sacred. I just saw a wikipedia article
This stood out for me:
"Praised for controlling vermin and its ability to kill snakes such as cobras, the domesticated cat became a symbol of grace and poise."
Well he could've been lying, or maybe Zero did it to him and filled his mind with false memories so he wouldn't betray him again. Maybe thats why he hates Zero so much, for doing that to him.
Edit: Like suppressing memories and replacing them. That is a real method which is induced by extreme torture, such extreme torture could result in having a "Skullface" also TPP heavily focuses on torture.
Cipher Cat
Banned
Don't read this if you are religious because, I don't want a flame discussion about my opinion in here:
You know, I actually think religions are evil.
Religion and money are the main reasons for war. Don't get me wrong. People should believe in what they want, I don't care. But religion shouldn't exist. But then again, I don't think the people who kill others are evil in the name of something. Because it isn't evil, it's just utter bullshit. And they don't use their brains. There's no such thing as good and evil.
Communities, people who gather together for one reason, find a way to hate something, which they never wanted in the first place, but things always get out of hands.
Religion and money are the main reasons for war. Don't get me wrong. People should believe in what they want, I don't care. But religion shouldn't exist. But then again, I don't think the people who kill others are evil in the name of something. Because it isn't evil, it's just utter bullshit. And they don't use their brains. There's no such thing as good and evil.
Communities, people who gather together for one reason, find a way to hate something, which they never wanted in the first place, but things always get out of hands.
Sheriff_Battlesnake
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In theory it's less that the religion is what is evil, but often the men who use it to manipulate others to their will. Which, in turn, kind of sounds like Man is what is evil. And if you are an atheist and anti religion then that's assuming man created religion... which still kind of sounds like Man is evil.
But also I included Causes and not just Gods. Like nuclear deterrents, does the potential product of peace make the threat of massive obliteration any less evil? I mean, the intentions were good. Like Anakin's killing the younglings.
If we take the quote literally they even said "release window" and not date lol.
Love Deterrence
Member
Konami will announce a MGSV release date during
the Silent Hills post-credits sequence in which Norman Reedus kills Andrew Lincoln
I think it'll be a date, though! I mean. I donno, just don't think it'd be right to make us wait, hype it up and then not even give us a date.
Cipher Cat
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Sheriff_Battlesnake
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Quick! Release the windows!
GreyOcelot
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Based on the list in the thread, konami will not be at PAX East 
Based on the list in the thread, konami will not be at PAX East
Fucking A. All hope lost.
Love Deterrence
Member
Based on the list in the thread, konami will not be at PAX East
Yeah. :-/ Honestly, I don't know when we should expect one, so all I can suggest is that we just quit expecting one. Whether it be a video he records on his cell phone from his backyard saying "June 22!" or a GDC stage presentation - whatever. But trying to guess when and where is just exhausting and has led us nowhere thus far. ;_;
Yup. May 5th they'll announce that the game is coming: Never. (I say this because they specifically said that we'd get new info before May, and they want to be fashionably late. Maybe that's just MGO, though. :lol)
Skullface
Member
I'm not religious, but I have a big problem with what you said. Religion isn't inherently evil. When's the last time you've heard of Buddists or Hare Krishnas killing people in the name of their religion? Christianity has had plenty of evil, but has been relatively tame over the past 200 or so years. Larger institutions like Catholocism have their fair share of corruption, but that's nothing compared to the crazy assholes down south that decide to swindle people into supporting their vision of God so that they can have a free luxurious ride through life ( As Zappa said, "He's got 20 million dollars in his heavenly bank account, you ain't got nothing people" ). Then we have Islam, which will one day in history be just as docile as most religions are today.
Cipher Cat
Banned
"Men who use it to manipulate others", is pretty much my definiton for religion. Because that is religion. They don't praise their gods. They may just praise money if at all, like over 90 of all people in this world. Other than that, they just gather together to manipulate an be manipulated.
All of this might seem evil. But then again, you don't know the origin of those people who manipulate. You don't know why they do this bullshit. And I still say, there's no such thing as good and evil.
All of this might seem evil. But then again, you don't know the origin of those people who manipulate. You don't know why they do this bullshit. And I still say, there's no such thing as good and evil.
Just a reminder that it has been a month since the "release date should be announced PRETTY SOON" claims were made.
"Only a little bit longer", Kojima said.
A month ago.
For the record it was Ken and Kobayashi that said that but yeah....it's about damn time.
NEXT WEEK AT DESTINATION PLAYSTATION... BET ON IT!!!
BAM! Gene is a master of psychology, he uses quotes from the Boss like "Prove your loyalty!" etc to break Snake in their final battle. And what does Skullface do in GZ? "Chico. Growing up means how your going to live your life."
"Nothing to be ashamed of, pain gets the better of us all."
"Nothing to be ashamed of, pain gets the better of us all."
Skullface
Member
Skullface is best face.
Im onto you, I know your secret...
Cipher Cat
Banned
Should've changed the first sentence. I don't want to have even a flame discussion in here with non-religious people.
It's like the Order love/hate discussion. I'm out of this. Should've never posted this.
Sheriff_Battlesnake
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Fair enough. I have no personal problem with religion, just participating in good ol' conversation. But I agree with there not being a purely good or purely evil.
Cipher Cat
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You still doubted that? ⊙﹏⊙
There are militant Buddhist sects, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Karen_Buddhist_Army
There's no guarantee that radical Islam will disappear either since the process by which Christians became docile is tied to improved quality of life and cultural factors. I'm not an expert, but I think as long as the Middle East is in turmoil we will probably have dangerous groups who use Islam as a recruiting tool.
There's no guarantee that radical Islam will disappear either since the process by which Christians became docile is tied to improved quality of life and cultural factors. I'm not an expert, but I think as long as the Middle East is in turmoil we will probably have dangerous groups who use Islam as a recruiting tool.
BTW what the hell this thread is.
Love Deterrence
Member
is soony paving u as muchachas they pade dog
No news = random discussions lol. Konami playing us like a fiddle.
Cipher Cat
Banned
Look at him, he comes into a MGS community thread and the first thing he's doing, is talking about religion. I can't handle this, craziness!
Got to check my back account when I get home. Early talks were promising.
Love Deterrence
Member
Well, it ain't a Metal Gear thread.
|OT3| Metal Gear talk subject to ban.
Oh, nice! So, it's like that deal I have with N4G.
Hey! I posted my theories in that other MSG thread that went to heaven. Everybody was convinced that David Hayter would still voice Big Boss, but they just have to let go...
Cipher Cat
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OT1 is still active and we already done 3/20 out of this thread. Mods don't give a shit.
You are definitely wrong here now..
I think we should just lock in that title now.
Sheriff_Battlesnake
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Welcome brother! I appreciate you'r humongous testicles plunging in on the heaviest of topics! Make yourself at home.
This thread is several dozen peoples psyches slowly being torn into something that would be delicious on a taco.
Skullface
Member
I don't disagree with anything you've said. At the same time, I think religion has value and shouldn't be relegated to an evil trait of humanity. This is coming from an agnostic.
Love Deterrence
Member
Bahahahaha! XD Man, that is killing me. Guess I should start working on OT3.
Glad you rike! :-D We'll lock it in... Unlike the mods locking that thread. :smugface:
Some dude just linked me this on twitter :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puNgv-oVxQU
:lol :lol :lol :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puNgv-oVxQU
:lol :lol :lol :lol
Cipher Cat
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This is a pure gif gold mine!
Love Deterrence
Member
Is he?! :smugface: intensifies
yoooooooooooooo lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Shit brought back those nightmare fuel memories of Zoo Race.
Cipher Cat
Banned
Scratch that, his entire channel is a gif gold mine!!
Love Deterrence
Member
da queen <3
He didn't explicitly say he wanted it but why else would he post this?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=152659682&postcount=1207
I'd watch my back around him if I were you.
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