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Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance |OT| A Blade Forged In Platinum [LAW OF THE WILD]
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Robot Pants
Member
They also need to patch in a taunt button for this game
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
You want to touch me?
Hot Coldman
Banned
Eh, Raiden's kinda lame at everything that isn't slicing dudes apart and running really fast
Taunting probably wouldn't go well
MiamiWesker
Member
I fought the last boss last night. Almost punched my TV set. Slashing QTEs WTF!?!?!?!?!
The game is excellent though, very hard is well... very hard. What a jump in challenge. If you get mobbed is there any way to get out of it. i get stuck parring a million times and never being able to attack.
The game is excellent though, very hard is well... very hard. What a jump in challenge. If you get mobbed is there any way to get out of it. i get stuck parring a million times and never being able to attack.
Now I have a mental image of Raiden posing at the end of his polearm breakdance move and a camera click. And then another of him swiveling his hips and posing.
Sneaking Ops are his specialty
while saying it in his jack ripper gravely voice
Lostconfused
Member
Well then, I guess you better arrest me.
Proceeds to build in areas you'd think you'd be able to stealth but can't.
KOJIMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
call_kotaku
Member
If Raiden just has the shrug he does ("well you better arrest me then") in the opening to the Denver sequence as a taunt, it'd be good enough.
I want to cut someone to pieces and just go ¯\_(ツ
_/¯ nanomachines, son
I want to cut someone to pieces and just go ¯\_(ツ
_/¯ nanomachines, sonRickenslacker
Banned
Well that was a good week. Got that Platinum Trophy and am feelin' pretty satisfied. Kudos to y'all who got it earlier, especially L.O.R.D. good god.
I got a good 40 or so hours of enjoyment outta that, can't wait to dip into some DLC later. But for now I guess I can go back to playing other things.
I got a good 40 or so hours of enjoyment outta that, can't wait to dip into some DLC later. But for now I guess I can go back to playing other things.
Lumpy Onion
Member
For some odd reason I thought the final boss
would be Snake. Or at least a clone or new Metal Gear something using his brain a-la the Boss in PW. I dunno why, but I would have loved if they went in that direction. Senator was great, but the thought of fighting a crazed berserker Snake would have been so crazy and awesome.
That Dude John
Member
Berseker Snake for DLC?
Spring-Loaded
Member
The codec conversations are genuinely fascinating/feature actually interesting discussion. Metal Gear games always have a stunning amount of quality optional dialogue.
These. With them, I could recreate this scene from MGS4
I could even play the music over it
These. With them, I could recreate this scene from MGS4
I could even play the music over it
FlashbladeGAF
Member
you have to adjust the left stick (blade mode = camera) as well as adjust the right stick (blade mode= slash direction) on the second slash, then hit a face button to swing(triangle or x; I used triangle)
The game tries to trick you because the first slash you only need to adjust the right stick so by the time you get to the second slash your busy trying to line up the slash again without realizing you need to adjust the camera as well
I wish!
There is one VR mission(at least) in the soon to be released DLC VR Missions for PS3 that has Raiden fight barehanded Final Fight/Streets of Rage style
MGR Director: Kenji Saito said:
MattyH
Member
boss rush would be awesome for practice for no hit achievements
Parry everything. And then parry some more.
If you think that is hard then you are in for a rough ride. It is one of the most scripted fights in the game. Just parry everything. The only thing that you have to watch out for is the laser and bullets.
Once you have your upgrades back things gel better in Revengence.
The only minor disappointment about the game I have is that upon completing Chapter 4 I believed I was just a tiny little bit past the first half of the game, since there obviously are 3 more chapters to go, and they probably can be even a bit longer than 1-4. Nope, chapters 5-7 combined are barely as long as any other single chapter, and that includes getting your ass whooped by the last boss for quite some time.
But the only issue I have with that is that I've read some minor spoilers, learning that there's 7 chapters and having inaccurate assumptions (Hey, it took me 4.5 hours to go through 4 chapters, if there are 3 more chapters then I have at least 3 more hours of awesome ahead of me!). Pacing-wise, the length of the chapters
is great.
But the only issue I have with that is that I've read some minor spoilers, learning that there's 7 chapters and having inaccurate assumptions (Hey, it took me 4.5 hours to go through 4 chapters, if there are 3 more chapters then I have at least 3 more hours of awesome ahead of me!). Pacing-wise, the length of the chapters
and having Sam fight be its own chapter
CambriaRising
Member
That is just factually wrong. The fact that if you miss the blade mode QTE, you lose, is bad design by nature.
The final boss is garbage.
Take that back! Final boss is awesome (even despite how frustrating it was).
ArchedThunder
Banned
Why did the achievements for the DLC VR missions show up in my achievement list when I literally can't get them because I live in America...
Oh no, a final boss that makes you try.
Unless something is wrong with your controller you shouldn't miss, they give you A LOT of time to line up your strike.
Oh no, a final boss that makes you try.
Unless something is wrong with your controller you shouldn't miss, they give you A LOT of time to line up your strike.
MaxwellGT2000
Member
I loved this game, beat it last night, going back for S ranks on Normal once I do that I feel I'm ready for Hard, Very Hard, and Revengence... I love this game as much as I loved Bayonetta.
Best "Metal Gear" game in nearly a decade (remember MGS3 is 9 years old before people try to murder me for the comment).
Best "Metal Gear" game in nearly a decade (remember MGS3 is 9 years old before people try to murder me for the comment).
I agree. That's not how it should work. What it should be is if you hit the Blade Mode boxes, then the game should reward you for your success, and if you miss the blade mode boxes, it should reward you for your failture. That's reasonable.
Dont lose the QTE then.
Seriously, are you talking about right at the very end where you Zandatsu the final boss?
Sam is making me want to tear my hair out. Fuck him. I can't parry anything of his and when I want to open the boxes I can't because he slams me from the air and I get hit. :/ Any specific secondary weapons I should be using? None out of the 3 seem to be helping. Should I go back and grind for the Fox Blade?
Nose Master
Member
Blade mode during the last fight isn't hard whatsoever. It's extremely forgiving with your line, unlike
.
Uh. All you do in that fight is walk towards him attacking and spam block/parry whenever he attacks . Doesn't really matter if you get the parry, just block his shit.
Sundowner
Uh. All you do in that fight is walk towards him attacking and spam block/parry whenever he attacks . Doesn't really matter if you get the parry, just block his shit.
Hold up, distinction time.
Blade Modeing parts of the bosses =/= QTE
QTE = Button prompts appear on-screen for the player to press either rapidly or in succession to complete a scripted sequence quickly.
Blade Modeing objects requires a lot more movement and thought than mere button presses do. I don't think we should be calling those moments QTEs, even if they're a little similar, the game is built around killing foes with blade mode to begin with. If Blade Mode wasn't so integral to the game I'd be okay with calling the boss moments with it QTEs but...... it's integral to the game. :x
Blade Modeing parts of the bosses =/= QTE
QTE = Button prompts appear on-screen for the player to press either rapidly or in succession to complete a scripted sequence quickly.
Blade Modeing objects requires a lot more movement and thought than mere button presses do. I don't think we should be calling those moments QTEs, even if they're a little similar, the game is built around killing foes with blade mode to begin with. If Blade Mode wasn't so integral to the game I'd be okay with calling the boss moments with it QTEs but...... it's integral to the game. :x
The problem isn't just that if you miss you lose, but rather that it doesn't in any way convey this to the player. In previous blade mode QTEs, you could swing repeatedly in the time frame, and usually (but not always) the penalty for failing wasn't pretty much an instant kill. And at least with the Sundowner fight, it was very obvious that missing would do damage to you. In every other case in the game (except cutting off left arms), it's better to aim quickly, and go for multiple swings if you miss on the first hit rather than spend a lot of time aiming.
But on the final boss, the first several times I missed I just assumed I took too long to aim, so I kept trying to do it faster and faster (and getting careless in the process). If they could have somehow shown visually that hitting from the wrong angle was the cause of the failure it wouldn't have been so frustrating of a QTE.
CambriaRising
Member
If you miss on box, its done. Doesn't matter what you progress is up until that point, you're done. That is bad design.
How about you take a little bit of damage and not 100%+ for a rock hitting you?
You won't change my mind on this. I love the game, but the final boss is badly designed.
Blade mode is just an abstract form of a QTE. I am specifically talking about when the boss throws big rocks/rumble at you and magically Raiden can only cut diagonally through them in a certain direction.
Dude only cuts through EVERYTHING ELSE with ease up until that point.
Shadow2222
Member
Hmmm, those were the easiest parts of the boss fights for me (even Sundowner).
So now your complaining about taking damage from regular attacks too, I see. (100% damage should not kill you unless you haven't upgraded your health at all)
Perhaps bosses should just start kill themselves.
I'm just messing with you if that wasn't clear, but I do agree that you should just not fail on the Blade mode part. Line them up and slash, it's not hard. And even if you do miss, I still managed to win a match after I messed up on the slashing portions.
You lost because you failed to properly execute one of the core functions of the game.
Really, blade mode is like the big thing with this game. If you fail at it with the final boss of the game in his final form the price for failure should be extreme.
CambriaRising
Member
What? Oh, you are just trolling. Whatever.
Ok just beat the game. Last boss wasn't as hard as other people made it out to be even though I walked in with no healing kits (playing on hard). The whole thing though? Yep, it's a Metal Gear game. The absurdity of it all is too much.
Unlocked five titles, one of them being Samurai (finish game using only HF blade) which is weird because I used a lot of sub-weapons and secondary weapons. Also unlocked two wigs.
Gonna go back and play very hard more now.
Unlocked five titles, one of them being Samurai (finish game using only HF blade) which is weird because I used a lot of sub-weapons and secondary weapons. Also unlocked two wigs.
Gonna go back and play very hard more now.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I know, right? It even takes MULTIPLE STRIKES to down bosses, but his sword can cut through giant robots sometimes in a single blow. Doesn't make any sense! Ludonarrative dissonance!
CambriaRising
Member
I lost because the game decided that a QTE should kill you in one hit when you fail it instead of being practical.
Its great that you like the game, but it has flaws and the final boss is a big one.
Yeah, thats totally what I said.
Some of you love this game too much and really can't take constructive criticism of it well huh?
What nonsense. You could say almost anything in a game is an "abstract form" of a QTE. "If I don't press the jump button in time this Goomba kills me in one hit, THIS IS BULLSHIT"
Professor Beef
Banned
It's the final boss, of course it's supposed to be challenging. It's also making you use techniques that you should have mastered throughout the game's progression.
They explained in a codec call, some materials are too thick to be cut through in one go, so constant attacks are needed for the HF Blade to destabalize the molecules in the target before they can be cut like butter.
At least that's the theory (lol) behind it.
Like I said in my original post. Blade mode is one of the core parts of Revengeance's gameplay. Hell, Sundowner was effectively a tutorial for the stuff you have to do against Armstrong. If you fail one of the core aspects of the game at the one point you really shouldnt be failing them then you deserve a pretty harsh punishment.
Plus if you have healing items you can survive it anyway. I don't mean to sound like a jerk but this isn't a game flaw, this is user error. It's not like they threw some barely used mechanic at you out-of-nowhere for the final boss, they made you use something you've been using the entire game.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
The camera is a flaw. The stick wiggling and it's random nature is a flaw. A QTE punishing you when you fail isn't a flaw. Hell, if you have nanopaste, you'll take the hit. And if you can't handle having even a halfway decent application of one of the core mechanics of the game, you could just RUN under the junk.
Your game playing ability is flawed, and you're blaming the game for your subpar skills.
Your game playing ability is flawed, and you're blaming the game for your subpar skills.
CambriaRising
Member
You couldn't though, but this is. The fight literally stops for you to do this quickly under strict rules that are first introduced right then and there. The punishment is ultimate after that, no matter how well you are doing otherwise.
Hot Coldman
Banned
It's bullshit since you can slice something like a Mastiff in half with just a parry and a single Blade Mode swipe, haha.