EMG, kill everything asap. Ripper mode + Polearm helps a bunch here.
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Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance |OT| A Blade Forged In Platinum [LAW OF THE WILD]
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EMG, kill everything asap. Ripper mode + Polearm helps a bunch here.
You can run past the Fenrirs at least. Most of the game is managable past R00.
Yeah I figured as much. It really sucks going through R-00 on higher difficulties with no upgrades.
Whiteshirt
Member
Takes an additional hour to do if you just smash triangle. If you're actually interested in the codecs, you get to hear some interesting stuff about the world, events, and whatnot. If you find this shit boring, then the worst mission is going to be R-01 because they're the lengthiest. This is a Metal Gear game after all, you're pretty much expected to ring the codec 24/7 to listen to people like Paramedic tell you about movies or how tasty that mushroom is.
If you've heard them before and have saved, the game remembers you've listened to them. Its an incredibly easy achievement to get and the codec in this game is well done. You just have to do it methodically. You only have to listen to 400 out of 540 so its actually a pretty easy achievement to get if you cover all bases.
Instead of doing some work this afternoon I ended up S-ranking R-02 in revengeance (I should probably get over and done with the game asap so that I don't get distracted anymore).
It was a lot easier than I thought it'd be (I'm not even using infinite wigs). The 3 fights I thought would be the trickiest were the raptors, the back-up call fight and the 2 GRADs at the end.
The raptors turned out to be extremely easy, ripper mode + armour breaker makes quick work of them (you don't even need the armour breaker anyway, I tried with murasama and it went just as well). It's useful to have the Sai on hand if you don't manage to kill all three of them during ripper mode.
The back-up call fight was really annoying, mainly because it comes straight after a fight against 3 mastifs without a checkpoint inbetween. I just gave up on the no-damage bonus, instead concentrating on getting a combo as high as possible while getting as many zandatsus as possible (I missed one and still got an S so there's still a bit of leeway). The armour breaker + sai combo is incredibly useful in this fight, you can stun the tripods, go in blade mode and slash them until their armor breaks, making it easy to get zandatsus.
Finally, I thought the GRADs would be horrendous to fight, but they turned out to be quite easy. I found a little technique that works wonders (well I'm sure somebody else has thought of it before, but anyway): With murasama and the sai equipped, I'd go in ripper mode as soon as the fight starts, before perfect parrying the big GRAD's attack. This takes it down to ~30%. From there, I would just go into blade mode and hack and slash until it was down to 10% (this usually coincided with me running out of energy). At this point it'd become open to a finisher, which I'd quickly perform. After that, I'd use the sai to immediately stun the second GRAD, and consequently go to town on it by keeping it in a stunlock. There doesn't seem to be a point in zandatsuing it, because it doesn't seem to register on the scoreboard at the end of the fight.
It was a lot easier than I thought it'd be (I'm not even using infinite wigs). The 3 fights I thought would be the trickiest were the raptors, the back-up call fight and the 2 GRADs at the end.
The raptors turned out to be extremely easy, ripper mode + armour breaker makes quick work of them (you don't even need the armour breaker anyway, I tried with murasama and it went just as well). It's useful to have the Sai on hand if you don't manage to kill all three of them during ripper mode.
The back-up call fight was really annoying, mainly because it comes straight after a fight against 3 mastifs without a checkpoint inbetween. I just gave up on the no-damage bonus, instead concentrating on getting a combo as high as possible while getting as many zandatsus as possible (I missed one and still got an S so there's still a bit of leeway). The armour breaker + sai combo is incredibly useful in this fight, you can stun the tripods, go in blade mode and slash them until their armor breaks, making it easy to get zandatsus.
Finally, I thought the GRADs would be horrendous to fight, but they turned out to be quite easy. I found a little technique that works wonders (well I'm sure somebody else has thought of it before, but anyway): With murasama and the sai equipped, I'd go in ripper mode as soon as the fight starts, before perfect parrying the big GRAD's attack. This takes it down to ~30%. From there, I would just go into blade mode and hack and slash until it was down to 10% (this usually coincided with me running out of energy). At this point it'd become open to a finisher, which I'd quickly perform. After that, I'd use the sai to immediately stun the second GRAD, and consequently go to town on it by keeping it in a stunlock. There doesn't seem to be a point in zandatsuing it, because it doesn't seem to register on the scoreboard at the end of the fight.
Slurpy2k20
Member
Well, they could have at least given SOME incentive to check out the codecs then, or at least make it a requirement a couple times to get some info. I didnt call anyone throughout the entire game because I literally forgot that you could. They never wove it into the gameplay at all, which means all that effort and voice acting went to waste. Most people are not going to randomly decide to check the codecs if the game never once asks it of you.
Which is fine. You never had to call the codec in previous Metal Gear titles either. It's there if you want the backup/flavor and if not you can blow through at whatever pace and choice you want.
Blah! I just got done the demo an I usually like me some button mashy hack 'n slash games but this one felt tedious an boring an it don't help that the controls kinda suck. R3 being the camera center button suuuuuucks. Why can't ya assign it to L3? Why is there no guard/evade? That first boss was a major pain in the butt cause there was like no way to avoid its attacks so I "died" on it like 3 times and this was on easy mode! Plus it was a lame boss anyway since it took a couple timeouts to send in backup ~_~ like way ta artificially extend an already boring thing, guy!
lol
The Xtortionist
Member
Parry/block (depending on timing) by pressing the left stick toward the attack along with the light attack button. And the reason why the boss calls backup is so you can zandatsu them to get health back. You can also kill them in like a second if you know what you're doing.
why does nobody reads the fucking screen instructions?
Ruh roh
I don't even know what to say. Reading the instructions the game give you might be a good start.
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If I was doing anything wrong, blame the game! The options only tell ya what the shoulder buttons & sticks do nothing else!
If its a timing thing forget about it. I'm terrible at that kinda stuff especially in the midst of speedy-mashy-slashy-frenzy @_@ I dunno what a zandatsu is either aside from a stat I always got 0 in. I assume its a special move but how or when ta do it? Ya got me! For a demo it didn't do a good job of teaching me the ropes!
The only instuctions I saw was select for codec and L+Square for parry which I didn't get at all since I was constantly using those buttons anyways.
Box of Bunnies
Banned
Pai Pai Master
Banned
The demo/game clearly tells you everything you need to know on screen. It's one of the best games at teaching the player without getting overzealous. Try paying attention to the instructions that show up on the screen instead of mashing buttons.
This isn't a button-mashing "hack and slash," like PSO/PSU... Lindsay, honey.
It's not button mashy. To actually have fun in MGR, you need a modicrum of skill. So, if you don't want to learn anything about the combat, then you may as well move on because there's nothing for you in this game.
To block, you need to tap the left stick in a direction and press Square at the same time. Raiden will perform a parry maneuver. The maneuver will only come out if the enemy is going to attack.
Zandatsu is when Raiden reaches in slow mo, grabs the spine, crushes it, and yells "Bullseye" or "Dead on". This replenishes your health and meter. You use your meter in order to use the slowtime BladeMode, by pressing and holding the L2 button. When you do this, you'll see little squares on your opponent. Slash the little square by moving the aiming reticle and hitting either Square or Triangle. Then you'll get an O prompt. Using the slowtime BladeMode drains your meter.
R_thanatos
Member
I just finished the story of this game .took my sweet time i know .
i'm satisfied.
All the bosses were fun and great , except the pole lady boss fight that was poor , but at least the music was cool.
Needed some time to adapt to the final bosses patterns but it was "ok" ..
Overall i loved it .. cutting things never got old so i guess i'm back to do another run + vr missions.
FILE 5, 6 & 7 are too short.
i spent a lot of time listening to codecs conversations It's very good ..Lol when they used forced codecs conversation to mask loadings !
i'm satisfied.
All the bosses were fun and great , except the pole lady boss fight that was poor , but at least the music was cool.
Needed some time to adapt to the final bosses patterns but it was "ok" ..
Overall i loved it .. cutting things never got old so i guess i'm back to do another run + vr missions.
FILE 5, 6 & 7 are too short.
i spent a lot of time listening to codecs conversations It's very good ..Lol when they used forced codecs conversation to mask loadings !
I still haven't done VR missions since I'm still trying to no-damage Monsoon. Get into the groove but get hit and have to retry 50 million times until I get a run nearly finished only to get hit from panic or joy of nearly being done. Repeat. D:
hayabusachop
Banned
Spring-Loaded
Member
Doesn't it feel good to parry the mastiffs' dive attack though? I thought I would hate that VR mission because of how hard it was, but it ended up being satisfying too. It's hard, but not complete bullshit-type hard like mission 17. Except for when the camera screws you over.
Parrying mastiff dives gets me hype! Just thinking about it makes me want to play the game some more!
R_thanatos
Member
at least the content in those chapters were good ..it just was short.
Wolf need to come back in another metal gear. Excellent dialog and sarcasm
Eww no thanks!
Why should I not have expected it to be like a DMC and other slashy sword heavy games...? I didn't follow its development or previews or anything. Pretty much tried the demo on a whim!
I only saw 2 instructions an only the codec one made any sense. When your in battle the screens full of stuff including baddies. Letting 'em wail on ya while you're trying to read alleged instructions dun seem like a safest of ideas? I guess ya could file it under growing pains since I jumped into the demo knowing basically nothing about the game.
Welllll ya can't have skill on your very first try!!! But I'll accept the tough love ya to heart all are giving me! As for the Zandatsu thing I am real super sure it never once came up for me. Maybe cause I never used the free blade mode? I tried in the training area but it felt super wonky an unwieldy to me. But as I'ma guess now the free blade thing is the "heart" of the gameplay an I'll get yelled at more for not using/liking it? Whatevers! I'ma jump back in an give it another try and see if I can't at least to a parry!
I do admit it was satisfying to parry their stupid wall dives and drop kicks like that. Overall, I would agree that mission 17 was worse. All sub-weapon kills, no parry, and no dodge? Bleh.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Yep, which is good that you tried the demo first and didn't just buy the game not knowing what it really is hehe. The combat is much deeper than your typical action gme, so the learning curve is there in full force. Stick with it though and it's immensely rewarding. On normal, id say it's very accessible without being too mindless for the beginner. The real game begins on higher difficulties. It's not a long game and is meant to be replayed many times, so feel free to go at your own pace and don't be discouraged.
ThatsMytrunks
Member
I might stream this tomorrow with most unlocks and hard mode. It's fun as hell.
Revengeance mode is just mean, though.
Revengeance mode is just mean, though.
I think once I get the Platinum trophy I'll just do a wooden sword run through the game on Revengeance just for kicks without using cheat weapons/wigs. No restarting because I took damage, no restarting because I didn't get an S-rank, just gonna power through however I can.
AcceptableGhost
Member
No ripper mode, no secondary weapons, no sub weapons to get your true revengeance.
Sounds good.
Thanks for the helps! Second impressions is much nicer so hurrah!
Anyways this demo (game?) has a buncha technical hiccups lol. Kinda giving me flashbacks to Bayonetta since I got the PS3 version of that. Not being able to skip these slooowww walk & talk segments sucks whose brilliant idea was that? Anyways I played through 2 more times an got better rankings each time and didn't even die the last time! Still dunno how this hand collecting thing works. Are they automatically collected after chopping peeps up or what? Discovering stealth kills was a nice thing! I dunno how grenades work. No matter how far away I aim he always ends up dropping them practically at his feet. Maybe Raidens just got a bad throwing arm o.o?
Parrying for me is mashing L+Square I know I shouldn't mash but it kinda works more often then not. I'm just to poor a judge of animations/timing to do any differently. Zandatsus are umm... gross. Why can't I just have a tranquilizer gun/sword/gunsword? I guess that kinda thing wouldn't work so well in an action game! I still say the boss sucks. Sure I got around to killing it alot quicker an easier but its still an annoying critter. Can ya even avoid the attack where it chainsaw tails ya in the face? I'm sure thats a yes but I never could do it yet.
Thats what I'm always told when I try to play one of these types of games but I normally have fun just cheesing my way through 'em on super easy w/o learning a whole lot. Which means I'm doing it wrong cause your not allowed ta have fun until ya master games or so some people would have ya believe >.>
Anyways this demo (game?) has a buncha technical hiccups lol. Kinda giving me flashbacks to Bayonetta since I got the PS3 version of that. Not being able to skip these slooowww walk & talk segments sucks whose brilliant idea was that? Anyways I played through 2 more times an got better rankings each time and didn't even die the last time! Still dunno how this hand collecting thing works. Are they automatically collected after chopping peeps up or what? Discovering stealth kills was a nice thing! I dunno how grenades work. No matter how far away I aim he always ends up dropping them practically at his feet. Maybe Raidens just got a bad throwing arm o.o?
Parrying for me is mashing L+Square I know I shouldn't mash but it kinda works more often then not. I'm just to poor a judge of animations/timing to do any differently. Zandatsus are umm... gross. Why can't I just have a tranquilizer gun/sword/gunsword? I guess that kinda thing wouldn't work so well in an action game! I still say the boss sucks. Sure I got around to killing it alot quicker an easier but its still an annoying critter. Can ya even avoid the attack where it chainsaw tails ya in the face? I'm sure thats a yes but I never could do it yet.
call_kotaku
Member
The game has an Easy difficulty with optional parry assistance, so if you absolutely can't/don't want to learn the mechanics there should be no obstacle to you completing the game. I can't fathom why anyone would want to play this game like that, since you've deprived yourself of 80% of what the game has to offer and you'd get more enjoyment out of a Mousou game.
Honestly though, there's a ton of walkthroughs on youtube by capable players, so you can see how the full game is supposed to look, and there's no reason for you to ask for technical assistance on Gaf for the most basic mechanics because we wouldn't be able to show you exactly what to do, and any advice we'd give would be pointless since if you'd been interested in tutorials or reading instructions you wouldn't have these issues. Actively refusing to learn the basics and then blaming the game for it is a real quick way for people to start dismissing your opinions.
Can someone help me out with the surprise attack trophy. I can't even get past the first part without getting spotted. I take out the first two guys easily but the guy at the gate is a problem. I throw out a 3d frame to distract him but he still somehow auto spots me if I pass by a certain point. How do I take care of this guy?
Professor Beef
Banned
I used the 3D frame too, but waited until he was done with it and walking back to his post. Then I ran up to him (regular run, not Ninja) and stealth killed him. That's what worked for me, at least. I'm sure someone has a better strategy.
Have the guy at the fence eat a rocket (will kill him so long as the difficulty is hard or below). You'll be fine so long as you take out the first two guys before you do it, and certainly if you hit him from the side and not head on. 3D photo frame never worked for me there either, as he always saw me no matter what (probably glitched).
Yep I just fed him a nice rocket to the face and he went down. Thanks for the help.
Yay! That is a good thing! I mean I'd never skip 'em the first or second time through but a buncha times in a row like this it got pretty annoying.
Is parrying this games witch time then? I'd totally play on easy/normal and have those assists are turned off while clumsily trying ta do it manually. Even in slower non-actiony games I always have trouble with stuff that requires timing an thats a flaw with me not the game an I never said otherwise -_- Maybe a gaming god like yourself who I can only assume S ranked the game their first/second time through no sweat can't understand but people can have fun with any game even if they're bad or incompent or both at it! I do at least try to take advantage of the tools they throw at ya even if in the end my execution falls on its face!
I wasn't asking GAF for help though I dun see how that'd be a bad or unwanted thing seeing as how some other posts on the same page were asking how to do some things! And it was nice to get pointers and explanation the demo failed to provide (unless I really am blind). Were this the full game I would've totally read over the instruction book before even starting it up, but those things don't exist with demos! Should I take all this as "first impressions are unwanted unless they're overwhelmingly positive" or that I oughta resign my GAF account and just visit youtube for all my gaming needs?
call_kotaku
Member
Parrying is a huge part of the game, but what I'm describing is simply ignoring all the possible challenges the game might provide, and just treat it as a mashing exercise between a series of cutscenes. It's like buying a sports car just to sit in the back seat and get driven to places because you hate driving, since in that case you'd have more legroom and a smoother ride in a cheap Toyota. It just seems strange to me.
The game has plenty of flaws (the camera) and there are plenty of action game veterans who don't particularly enjoy it, but what you posted was hardly constructive criticism. If you actively ignored all the in-game explanations, there's no way for anyone on a forum to explain the basics of how to play the game better than a youtube video could, and if you couldn't be bothered do that much I don't see how a text explanation could help. Also, if you start with accusations and arguments instead of just asking for specific tips, you're going to have a hard time finding people willing to help.
The Demo also has a massive thread on gaf and 90% of it is users teaching each other how to play the game when asked nicely. Plenty of us like to share new techniques we've found or help others through their difficulties, but "this game sucks teach me how to play it" is not a good way to start the conversation.
Box of Bunnies
Banned
NANOMACHINES, SON
The credits are rolling in as I'm writing this.
GOD FUCKING DAMNIIT, THAT MOTHERFUCKING LAST FIGHT.
After 10-15 deaths, I said to myself - "Oh fuck, I may have hit a wall here. No way I'm going to kill this mofo"
But then, I told myself:
"Would Jack the Ripper be such a pussy? AW HELL NAW"
AND THEN I SLICED, USED PARRY AND KILLED THAT SON OF A BITCH.
For people.
For peace.
For MURRICA.
11/11 - would revegeance again
GOD FUCKING DAMNIIT, THAT MOTHERFUCKING LAST FIGHT.
After 10-15 deaths, I said to myself - "Oh fuck, I may have hit a wall here. No way I'm going to kill this mofo"
But then, I told myself:
"Would Jack the Ripper be such a pussy? AW HELL NAW"
AND THEN I SLICED, USED PARRY AND KILLED THAT SON OF A BITCH.
For people.
For peace.
For MURRICA.
11/11 - would revegeance again
i don't get it - can someone explain why the yellow armor looks like the standard armor?
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i hope you show the same steadfastness when you do the vr missions. you gonna need it.